Thread: Bali Executions

Originally Posted by terry57

Today I watched Abbott suck up to Indonesia saying what a great friend they were but at the same time expressing how disappointed he was.

Abbott : Australia's mini-Neville Chamberlain. Piss weak and devoid of guts as him too.

The outrage bus left a while ago.... however there is a mitigating excuse for these druggies. Given the pitiful standards of literacy, spelling and grammar displayed by so many Oztrailereen folk it is quite possible that they were unable to read the great big fuckoff signs in the airports which informed them as to what would happen if they were caught with drugs!

The greatest tragedy of the whole thing is that the death penalty actually has great potential if it were reserved for and applied to criminals who truly deserve it. Smuggling drugs just isn't morally offensive enough to warrant the disproportionate response so then it gives the death penalty a bad name.

Originally Posted by Looper

it gives the death penalty a bad name

Not a humorous thread but this did bring a smile to my face.

Originally Posted by Looper

The greatest tragedy of the whole thing is that the death penalty actually has great potential if it were reserved for and applied to criminals who truly deserve it. Smuggling drugs just isn't morally offensive enough to warrant the disproportionate response so then it gives the death penalty a bad name.

Completely disagree when it comes to drugs such as heroin in commercial amounts.

8kg, the misery that would cause so many other humans is unimaginable, and just for greed and personal gain.

Kill 'em, and let it be a lesson to all.

China has the right idea, live on television.

Actually they should have been pumped full of the stuff for 6 months and then locked in a cell without it so they could go through the withdrawal process, with it live on webcam for others thinking of getting involved in it.

Originally Posted by terry57

Urm,

It's all done and dusted now but can someone please explain to me why the Australians life were much more important than the other people executed and why the Australian Government did not campaign equally for mercy for these other condemned people. ?

That has something to do with the fact that not everybody is an Australian.

Its been all about the two Australians and the Flippa.

....and what about the 'flippa' who is most likely innocent, or are you going to tell us you would shoot your kids for getting their 9X tables wrong?

Do try to see the bigger picture......

8kg, the misery that would cause so many other humans is unimaginable

8 kilos of smack would make a lot of people very happy.

A link to today's Daily Mail Online Australia - Home Page | Daily Mail Online. Big story about the executions.

'The result of the second execution was better, more orderly and more perfect than the last,' he said, referring to executions carried out in January and noting the bodies were treated more 'humanely' this time.

practice makes perfect.

the british granny who is next in line will be delighted.

Originally Posted by taxexile

the british granny who is next in line will be delighted.

They'll have to harpoon her.

Originally Posted by terry57

Urm,

It's all done and dusted now but can someone please explain to me why the Australians life were much more important than the other people executed and why the Australian Government did not campaign equally for mercy for these other condemned people. ?

Hard to believe anyone could be as thick as to write that, but then I saw it was from Terry - self explanatory

Originally Posted by Luigi

Originally Posted by Looper

The greatest tragedy of the whole thing is that the death penalty actually has great potential if it were reserved for and applied to criminals who truly deserve it. Smuggling drugs just isn't morally offensive enough to warrant the disproportionate response so then it gives the death penalty a bad name.

Completely disagree when it comes to drugs such as heroin in commercial amounts.

8kg, the misery that would cause so many other humans is unimaginable, and just for greed and personal gain.

Drug dealing leads to misery but the trafficker is several steps removed from the misery, he is not inflicting the misery directly, and his motives are simply to make some coin, the misery is an unfortunate bi-product. Also most drug users must accept substantial responsibility for their situation.

The death penalty should be reserved for kunts who debase human morality directly with their own hands like that fucker in Chiang Mai with the broken bottle in the bargirls ass or people who take life violently, brazenly and without regret in public massacres like Anders Breivik.

Looper most of these Traffickers are in the pyramid scheme, and pay for there involvement,so they do inflict the misery.

I never used to be pro capital punishment but moving that way more by the day.

Originally Posted by Looper

Originally Posted by Luigi

Originally Posted by Looper

The greatest tragedy of the whole thing is that the death penalty actually has great potential if it were reserved for and applied to criminals who truly deserve it. Smuggling drugs just isn't morally offensive enough to warrant the disproportionate response so then it gives the death penalty a bad name.

Completely disagree when it comes to drugs such as heroin in commercial amounts.

8kg, the misery that would cause so many other humans is unimaginable, and just for greed and personal gain.

Drug dealing leads to misery but the trafficker is several steps removed from the misery, he is not inflicting the misery directly, and his motives are simply to make some coin, the misery is an unfortunate bi-product.

an unfortunate bi-product.

For me, providing drug users with drugs at their request does not come close in moral crime terms to the worst cases of violent crime against the individual such as torture, murder and rape.

Of course drug smuggling is bad but if we are to ever drum up actual support for returning the death penalty we would be best to focus public opinion on the crimes that are most morally repugnant.

Bali Nine: Barnaby Joyce says death penalty 'discussion' needed in wake of Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan executions - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Originally Posted by Luigi

an unfortunate bi-product.

That is what it is. Does the drug smuggler wish to make people suffer? No he wishes to make some coin. People freely want to buy his drugs and he sells them. Not the most directly brazen moral crime I would say.

All the more reason for legalisation, I use cannabis, though have seen the way some of these groups entice youngsters to get involved and use them.

Originally Posted by Looper

like that fucker in Chiang Mai with the broken bottle in the bargirls ass

Looper,

Sorry for asking but what was this about.

Please PM.

A man rammed a glass bottle up a woman's bits and she bled to death. And it wasn't the first time he had done it.

I agree with Looper. Get the ones that deserve it, rather than making a point with the middle men.

But, on the other hand. Perhaps their executions may stop the next lot of "I am invincible" silly little 20 year olds trying to make a fast buck. Those two were in their early twenties when they were caught.

I do feel for their families.

And why did he get married the day before?

Drugs don't cause misery at all, it's only when they are denied do they cause problems and in that respect governments should do much more to provide them at economic prices,and more widely. Decriminalisation is the only sensible course and in time would see an end to the quite dangerous proliferation of chemical legal highs. Heroin, cocaine and cannabis are all derived from natural occurring products and as long as everything is kept nice and organic then even " green " folk should be happy.

Killing someone simply because they breached daft drug laws is not only silly, it is pointless and quite mean. But then one doesn't expect much more from these little wogs.

Isn't Indonesia a religious country, just like your favourite holiday destination.

You left wing bitches should be posting your soft crap on this thread :

https://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lou...an-you-do.html (What Girly things can you do ?)

and not here.

The 2 immigrant scum had a free ticket to live in the west, but their greed and low breeding let them down.
NO reasonable person cares ,
I sure don't.

Next up- the 2 Burmese immigrant scum in the koh tao murder case.
As that Aussie guy used to say - '' harden the fuck up ''
or its going to be a long tearful summer for you guilty white liberals.

Tell that to the millions that have junkies in there Families.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Drugs don't cause misery at all, it's only when they are denied do they cause problems and in that respect governments should do much more to provide them at economic prices,and more widely. Decriminalisation is the only sensible course and in time would see an end to the quite dangerous proliferation of chemical legal highs. Heroin, cocaine and cannabis are all derived from natural occurring products and as long as everything is kept nice and organic then even " green " folk should be happy.

Killing someone simply because they breached daft drug laws is not only silly, it is pointless and quite mean. But then one doesn't expect much more from these little wogs.

Originally Posted by terry57

Give it a few days and this story will be forgotten.

What story, please ?

Originally Posted by Looper

For me, providing drug users with drugs at their request does not come close in moral crime terms to the worst cases of violent crime against the individual such as torture, murder and rape.

Quite. They are risking their lives to provide what others are desperate for.

Of course they expect to be paid well.

Interesting article about drugs and the rule of law in Indo. Try reading it Terry.

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