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    Our nanny, who is not an uneducated woman by any means, wears a Che Guevara t-shirt on Sundays when she goes to bible group . . .

    I asked her if she knew that the guy was a mass murderer . . . 'Oh no', was her response, 'this is a very popular t-shirt back home in the Philippines'.

    No clue

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post

    No clue
    Beck makes a very good point about how mainstreaming the acceptability of these mass murderers might be setting the stage for another holocaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post

    No clue
    Beck makes a very good point about how mainstreaming the acceptability of these mass murderers might be setting the stage for another holocaust.
    Propaganda is to be seen everywhere, though, in all political spectra . . . whether right or left or anywhere else on the psychopathy scale.

    How many people still believe that Sadaam was responsible for the Twin Towers attack, as an example, and I'm not only talking Americans here.

    Beck does have a point <cringe>

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
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    No clue
    Beck makes a very good point about how mainstreaming the acceptability of these mass murderers might be setting the stage for another holocaust.
    Propaganda is to be seen everywhere, though, in all political spectra . . . whether right or left or anywhere else on the psychopathy scale.

    How many people still believe that Sadaam was responsible for the Twin Towers attack, as an example, and I'm not only talking Americans here.

    Beck does have a point <cringe>
    Can't see how Beck as a point at all. Invoking Hitler and the Holocaust in order to put them in association with the Left...saying these people could be setting the stage for another Holocaust...? By whom against whom...?

    Even discussing this in such terms gives that filthy little money maker credence he doesn't deserve.

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    Jonah Goldbergs book says Hitler and the Nazi's were left wing.
    Beck should follow up with an epic Tome about how liberal Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan were.
    The same people would buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
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    No clue
    Beck makes a very good point about how mainstreaming the acceptability of these mass murderers might be setting the stage for another holocaust.
    Propaganda is to be seen everywhere, though, in all political spectra . . . whether right or left or anywhere else on the psychopathy scale.

    How many people still believe that Sadaam was responsible for the Twin Towers attack, as an example, and I'm not only talking Americans here.

    Beck does have a point <cringe>
    Can't see how Beck as a point at all. Invoking Hitler and the Holocaust in order to put them in association with the Left...saying these people could be setting the stage for another Holocaust...? By whom against whom...?

    Even discussing this in such terms gives that filthy little money maker credence he doesn't deserve.

    I'm not sure of the actual context Beck made his statement but I am seeing it as a non-specific comment, not meant directly in regard to the Jewish holocaust. Of course I may be wrong, seems to eb the order of the day today.

    I thought the comment was about propaganda as such . . . but then he is as guilty as anyone else of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Jonah Goldbergs book says Hitler and the Nazi's were left wing.
    Beck should follow up with an epic Tome about how liberal Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan were.
    The same people would buy it.
    And many others would simply read a blog entry about it and take that as 'FACT!'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Beck should follow up with an epic Tome about how liberal Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan were.
    They were compared to the likes of Beck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Jonah Goldbergs book says Hitler and the Nazi's were left wing.
    Their party was called national socialist party of German workers so I guess Jonah was not so much spot off.

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    Socialist in this context doesn't signify a left/right schism.

    Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, means Nationalsocialist German Worker's party.

    Difficult to explain, but because the words national and socialist are one word the meaning is different.

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    ^^ Yes, and during Pol Pots enlightened regime his nation was known as 'the Democratic Kampuchea'.

    Another brilliant idea for a right wing book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    these vicious bloodthirsty communist dictators
    Where was Guevara a dictator?
    nope, just a butcher

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^^ Yes, and during Pol Pots enlightened regime his nation was known as 'the Democratic Kampuchea'.

    Another brilliant idea for a right wing book.
    For a more contemporary example one could be written about the horrific lack of 'Freedom & Democracy'(TM) in the Republic of Korea as compared to the 'Freedom Loving'(TM) Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Socialist in this context doesn't signify a left/right schism.

    Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, means Nationalsocialist German Worker's party.

    Difficult to explain, but because the words national and socialist are one word the meaning is different.
    The National in front of sozialistische was needed to distinguish (and actually fight) from the other socialists who were international (meaning Soviet Union dependant). The party was founded to implement a national socialism without giving up sovereignity to the Soviets.

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    Which does not detract from the linguistic nuance, but yes you have a point also

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    On the heels of his resoundingly spectacular documentary The Revolutionary Holocaust: Live Free... or Die (4 million viewers last Friday alone) , Glenn Beck expands a bit on a point he made in the show: how The Beatles "got it" about Progressives.








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    Dunno. I watched him last Monday on the eve of the MA election and all he talked about was the first anniversary of his show. Before that he had some Mormon nutter on there. He is also repetitive, like he ran out of fodder. Sometimes, I just shut him off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    Dunno. I watched him last Monday on the eve of the MA election and all he talked about was the first anniversary of his show. Before that he had some Mormon nutter on there. He is also repetitive, like he ran out of fodder. Sometimes, I just shut him off.
    Beck had a Mormon on his TV show? What this Mormon open about his religion? Was he discussing his Mormon beliefs?

    I'm curious because beck is a converted Mormon, and many Mormon views are outright bizarre.

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    ^ It was a few weeks ago. I think the guy was touting a book. I rolled my eyes and shut it off, but also e-mailed Beck and told him he was a nutter, too.

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    ^ The Glenn Beck audience is the dummy market. He uses cartoons, and animated bobble heads to explain the basic principles. Ratings also spur his childish behavior. A converted Mormon, also.

    Being silly sells. This is too bad.

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    ^ Fear sells...

    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
    Now, I agree that Guevara's image has been used and abused forever, but the image has become an icon for uneducated people who don't like "gubmint" or "stuff". I am quite surprised that his picture hasn't shown up at a teabagging event given their general lack of awareness.
    Oh dear... Not sure about a teabagger event, but a Che Guavara poster superimposed on a Cuban flag did show up in one of Obama's campaign locations last year...

    Obama HQ has Che Guevara and Cuban flag on the wall - Democratic Underground


    I don't understand the popularity of Che Guevara... Perhaps he is perceived as a warrior & hero for the underclass... His message may have be worthy but his methods were brutal and nothing to idolize...
    Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib
    I don't understand the popularity of Che Guevara... Perhaps he is perceived as a warrior & hero for the underclass... His message may have be worthy but his methods were brutal and nothing to idolize...
    I don't understand it either. In the days when you used to see Che T shirts and posters at demonstrations and bookstores I did a little research on the guy and was appalled that the murderer was a hero to all the "...huminist" types. Obvious answer to your question is that he's a romantic figure to someone smitten by the revolution but doesn't do their homework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    ^ The Glenn Beck audience is the dummy market.
    4 million dummies were watching the commie documentary.
    Be afraid! Be very afraid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    I don't understand it either. In the days when you used to see Che T shirts and posters at demonstrations and bookstores I did a little research on the guy and was appalled that the murderer was a hero to all the "...huminist" types. Obvious answer to your question is that he's a romantic figure to someone smitten by the revolution but doesn't do their homework.
    Yep, just like folks who swoon over Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    ^ The Glenn Beck audience is the dummy market.
    4 million dummies were watching the commie documentary.
    Be afraid! Be very afraid!
    The 4 million across a nation of 307 are not sizeable enough.

    But Mr. Earl, serious question.

    What was this "commie documentary about?" Who, was it about?

    TIA.

    Edit in:

    I just saw #1 of 6, below.

    This is high school knowledge. Beck is a charlatan. This is a 10th Grade history lesson. Aimed at ignorant, functionally illiterate Americans.

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