Thread: Dinner

Looks great!

Salmon and creme cheese is always a great combo but I've never though of cooking hem together, or adding bacon.

But everything goes with bacon!

I think I may try a variation of this very soon.

Originally Posted by Mendip

I've never though of cooking hem together

Looks like it's time for afternoon tea.

Do you have etley's?

Be careful of the salmon in Macro.

Looks very much farmed - pale and boney.

Originally Posted by Mendip

Looks great!

Salmon and creme cheese is always a great combo but I've never though of cooking hem together, or adding bacon.

But everything goes with bacon!

I think I may try a variation of this very soon.

No Muslims were harmed in the making of this dinner

I might of overdone the bacon it was a bit crispy. But still who cares? It's bacon

Originally Posted by cyrille

Looks like it's time for afternoon tea.

Do you have etley's?

A rare afternoon tya tdong maybe?

Ah, it's back!

Originally Posted by BLD

heres where it gets tricky. is this farmed or wild caught ?

There is no wild salmon in Australia. You can also tell by the fat lines and the color. Farm raised salmon being raised in pens has a higher fat content than wild salmon, and the orange color is artificial. Glad you enjoyed your dinner, that is all that counts.

Originally Posted by BLD

I might of overdone the bacon it was a bit crispy.

Bacon is perfect.

I've often wondered what things were like before the Norwegians started farming salmon. Now, wherever you are in the world there will be frozen farmed Norwegian salmon available, often fresh as well, at affordable prices. Every Japanese restaurant you visit in SE Asia has raw salmon 'sushi' (or whatever you call it) in abundance. What was sold before all the cheap, farmed salmon.

I remember reading that in Devon, UK, in the 19th Century all the farm workers were fed on salmon because it was so abundant running up the rivers and was as cheap as chips. Chicken was a rare luxury.

Then, the salmon disappeared from overfishing and you'd be hung for poaching one, and chicken was as cheap as chips and fed to the workers.

I certainly never tasted salmon as a kid. But now, thanks to the Norwegians, salmon is cheap again and no longer a rare luxury.

Originally Posted by Mendip

Every Japanese restaurant you visit in SE Asia has raw salmon 'sushi' (or whatever you call it) in abundance.

They do not eat farmed salmon in Japan. They in fact buy wild salmon from the US, and they send their processor boats directly to Alaska to buy the salmon right off the fishing boats.

Originally Posted by Mendip

But now, thanks to the Norwegians, salmon is cheap again and no longer a rare luxury.

Farming salmon is illegal here in my state of Washington. Farmed salmon have a high rate of parasites that if intermingled with wild salmon here could wipe out entire runs of salmon. The state officials
here do not consider it worth the risk to have farmed salmon pens in our waters.

When you eat real wild salmon, you recognize the difference in taste and texture immediately. I understand that farmed is all some of you can get, and you do enjoy that it is just not for me because there is wild salmon available at every grocery store here.

I guess I'm not gonna get any wild salmon for $40 bucks from costco. Infact I have probably never eaten wild caught salmon.

It's probably available down here somewhere but likely comes with Wagyu/ Kobe steak prices. I should of taken advantage all those years ago when I was floating around the states/ canada

^^^ As we've discussed before Snubs, salmon farming in Norway has been devastating to the wild salmon population and is an extremely contentious issue.

But, it is huge money and a very powerful force, and won't be ending any time soon.

Practically all the salmon farms in Scotland are Norwegian owned and this will permanently destroy the Scottish wild salmon populations, as it has the Norwegian. Once these populations are gone, there is no going back. They're gone forever.

Originally Posted by bsnub

When you eat real wild salmon, you recognize the difference in taste and texture immediately

Not if you coat it in enough of the wife's cream cheese then wrap it in 2 packs of burnt bacon.

Onya BLD

Yeah get the same effect with tilapia but she already saw me pull the salmon out of the freezer

Decent fish is quite expensive these days and I'm fucked if I want to eat tilapia. The equivalent, but same price would be to buy barramundi instead. Different taste but damn good fish

Originally Posted by Mendip

I've often wondered what things were like before the Norwegians started farming salmon.

We used to eat rainbow or brown trout caught from the river before they were farmed. I guess it was officially poaching because we used to catch with worms on hand lines rather than fly fish for them.

Anyway fresh trout, straight from the river, were fantastic.

Originally Posted by Troy

We used to eat rainbow or brown trout caught from the river before they were farmed

It was only our dad who ate rainbow trout, or meat and 2 veg. We all got eggs beans and chips or similar.

I though i read somewhere that rainbow trout were an invasive species from the States that took over our waterways rather than being farmed

^ Rainbow trout won't reproduce in the UK, it's too cold.

They aren't native and are stocked in reservoirs etc for fly fishing and are also farmed purely for the plate. As they don't reproduce, I don't know if you can call them invasive? The population won't survive long term.

Back when I was alive and had regular season tickets on Blagdon Lake, it was noticeable that the recently stocked rainbown trout caught early in the season still had yellowish flesh because they'd bee fed on artificial food at the fish farm. The fish caught later in the year had deep orangey red flesh due to a natural diet for a few months. I used to sell many of my trout to local restaurants and covered the cost of my season ticket by doing that, and the fish was very popular. Fresh trout, lightly grilled with butter is delicious.

Rainbow trout that had overwintered in the lake were 'black' and out of condition at the start of the season. Brown trout were either from the naturally breeding population, but also stocked for the fishing.

I really miss those fly fishing days.

Originally Posted by Troy

We used to eat rainbow or brown trout caught from the river before they were farmed. I guess it was officially poaching because we used to catch with worms on hand lines rather than fly fish for them.

Anyway fresh trout, straight from the river, were fantastic.

I ate rainbow trout for the first time years ago on Vancouver Island. Pulled the Winnebago over and walked about a mile to a free flowing river . Caught 4 in about 30 minutes popped on a grill over a smoky fire
Still the best breakfast memory yet. Doesn't get any fresher than that.

Originally Posted by Mendip

I really miss those fly fishing days.

me too, used to go sewin fishing with my uncle, anything under 7 lbs was thrown back, i suspect its not thay good anymore, early 70s

I was just back in California and enjoyed some wild river caught Chinook from a friend. I gave up eating salmon due to how bad it is for you. When I go eat sushi/Sashimi nowadays I only eat Tuna. Fortunately they can't farm that...yet.

As for Fish in Thailand, I do not eat it at all unless Sea Bass. Tilapia, catfish and the other local market fish are all farm raised in stagnate ponds.

If you want quality type fish you have to pay for it.

Originally Posted by Mendip

Rainbow trout won't reproduce in the UK, it's too cold.

They do....They spawn in the River Wye....

Look and learn...




They also grow to the size of 2 and a half of your KC oven chips

Originally Posted by Reg Dingle

They also grow to the size of 2 and a half of your KC oven chips

Originally Posted by BLD

I guess I'm not gonna get any wild salmon for $40 bucks from costco.

Come to Seattle mate, and we can go fishing, and it will be free, if we strike out we can still hit Costco and spend $40 for real wild salmon.

Originally Posted by Mendip

As we've discussed before Snubs, salmon farming in Norway has been devastating to the wild salmon population and is an extremely contentious issue.

It is a sad deal for sure and those fish pens are filthy, and it has been documented numerous times on YT and other sources.

Originally Posted by Mendip

Practically all the salmon farms in Scotland are Norwegian owned and this will permanently destroy the Scottish wild salmon populations, as it has the Norwegian.

They chose this path. I know a few Norwegians back there that do actually go off and fish in Scotland. I am of Norwegian heritage myself, and the Norwegian connection to our fishing industry is very strong.

Originally Posted by Mendip

Once these populations are gone, there is no going back. They're gone forever.

Not entirely true at all. We have been able to rehabilitate several salmon runs here in Washington by removing dams. The salmon population roars back rather quickly. Sadly, when it came to Atlantic salmon the choice was made to ditch wild fish and go to farmed pens. Cash talks.

Originally Posted by Reg Dingle

Not if you coat it in enough of the wife's cream cheese then wrap it in 2 packs of burnt bacon.

Originally Posted by Reg Dingle

I though i read somewhere that rainbow trout were an invasive species from the States

This is correct. Rainbow trout is native to the pacific and Asia. Read this wiki, and you will see that rainbows are very a part of Washington state and steelhead trout are our state fish...

Rainbow trout - Wikipedia

Originally Posted by Mendip

Rainbow trout won't reproduce in the UK, it's too cold.

This is incorrect. Can I ask where you came across this misinformation? Trout is a cold water fish, please see the link I posted above.

Originally Posted by Mendip

I certainly never tasted salmon as a kid.

I remember having it every Christmas as a kid, tinned.

Often with cucumber in a white bread sandwich.

With a few crisps.

Luxury.