Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

Maybe they had never heard of dna ,or perhaps they had been told it had all being taken care of .
I just don.t trust people who play guitars on the beach , but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and let them go to trial,
now if it had been a drummer....

Originally Posted by blue

Maybe they had never heard of dna ,or perhaps they had been told it had all being taken care of .
I just don.t trust people who play guitars on the beach , but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and let them go to trial,
now if it had been a drummer....

so if they had never heard of DNA why would they walk down to give a sample of their DNA? Why would they do that? Are you one of the people in Thailand who see a queue of Thais waiting near a sign in Thai and think "heh, I must join with them to do what ever they are doing"?

Probably you are.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Anyone got any news on the British police in Koh Tao yet?

Fairly certain there will be no statements issued by the UK police until their involvement is over (the opposite of the Thai police with their constant roll out of hypothetical theories, seeking plaudits for being oh so clever).

I'm equally sure the UK police will be cringing at the practice of 're-enacting the crime scene with the suspects, along with the audience of media and public, with the laughable photos of finger pointing.

Originally Posted by PAG

the laughable photos of finger pointing.

Laughable ? More like utterly ludicrous and farcical.

And I wish the police all the best luck with their translators. When the Brits ask a simple question, the translators and police will converse for 5 or 10 minutes, and something approximating an answer (to a slightly different question) will eventuate.

We've all had that scenario with our wives, eh ?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

We've all had that scenario with our wives, eh ?

Errr ..... nope.

There has without doubt been much lost in translation throughout this investigation, but the following excellent report from the Thai press (translated by Google) will bring everybody up to speed on the activities of Scotland Yard and their interactions with the BIB.....


"Police Scotland Yard, the British Dylan" creeping police chief met with the team investigating the murder of two British tourists. Ready to Koh Tao in more details.
On 24 October, a report by the State Department as a senior source at 10.00. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, led the invading Scotland Yard police officers and four British embassy staff to travel to meet people. in. the. SOMYOT purple bush interbreeding with the police chief Maj.. the. Charamporn Sura Manipur police chief consultant in forensic medium (Commission.) and Maj. Gen.. . at. Suwat statement of Great happy. Deputy Chief ผbch.n. probe murder of two British tourists in Koh Tao. E., Surat Thani
The atmosphere of the meeting and ask questions on the issues of the case. Initial expressions of Police Scott Land Yard. Serious issue and asked questions and steps from the cases such as batting. I later received a Notice in the process of working to resolve the lawsuit that led to the arrest and questions. The investigation team of the police investigation and Thailand. British police make of such series are extremely satisfied with the answer.
After leaving a meeting of police series such as walking, smiling and talking to. Dir. Sq. With a hearty atmosphere. It will also be appreciated And thanked the police working around Thailand that covers the details of all those who are. And seeing that the investigative team is the international equivalent of the police other countries. Around the world really professional The British Council has also tease the police chief by asking the police chief and the exchange of knowledge and experience to investigators British police do. Then the British came to Thailand with fashion police would be happy. To exchange experiences with each other in the future. The time to question the issue in doubt to call on this for over 3 hours.
After then ask the police in Thailand have led the delegation. To work on the details of forensic evidence and the location within the National Police Agency (sq.), And is satisfied, then return.
News also reported that the Board of Police Scott Land Yard. Such suits have also appealed to the Dir. Sq. To Maj.. At. Suwat statement joy, a team investigation of this case, the Board of the British series that travels down the crime scene. Turtle Island To view the details of a murder plot by two British tourists in the coming months as well.



Oddly enough, it makes just as much sense as some of the stuff posted on this tread by a few people who are supposed to be able to read and write English......

Bangkok Post
October 25, 2014
Writer: Supapong Chaolan

The parents of the suspects in the Koh Tao murders case met their sons in a tearful reunion at Koh Samui prison yesterday.

Despite claims the Myanmar pair were threatened by police with having their limbs cut off if they did not confess, suspect Win Zaw Htun's father, Tun Tun Htike, "still believes in the Thai justice system".

Win Zaw Htun's mother wept in grief while waiting for the family reunion as his father fought back tears trying to answer media questions.

"I'll tell my son to tell the whole truth," Tun Tun Htike said yesterday morning before meeting Win Zaw Htun. He was talking through an interpreter at the prison on Koh Samui where his son has been detained.

Yesterday was the first time he and and his wife, Zaw Aye Maung, have seen their son since his last visit to their home in Rakhine state eight months ago. It was also the first reunion for the other suspect Zaw Lin with his mother Phyu Shwe Nu and uncle Thein Shwe Aung.

The two men had been working as bar staff on Koh Tao and were accused of the murders of British tourists Hannah Witheridge and David Miller who were found dead on Sept 15. The suspects have been charged with rape, murder, and illegal entry into the country.

After the visit, Tun Tun Htike told the Democratic Voice of Burma (DVB) in an interview that his son and friend told him they confessed to the crime only after they were told their limbs would be cut off and they would be put in a bag and dumped in a river if they did not.

The father also told the DVB Thai police threatened to tie the two boys to a tyre, pour petrol on it, and set it alight.

Full article: Kill suspects meet parents at prison | Bangkok Post: news

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Do the Thai who were educated abroad, fill their Foreign Office, staff the higher echelons of the Civil Service who deal with the world regularly, not increasingly squirm and wriggle at this ghastly pantomime currently produced by lumpen, inept policemen and a naive general so far out of his depth its scarcely credible he is even here?

Surely Prem and his ilk must be thinking there has been a terrible mistake?

On another forum one poster opined similar thoughts and one of the board's resident Thai apologists immediately began using the racist and why don't you f*ck off back home defense of all things Thai.

The guy calmly explained that while stating the obvious short comings of the LOS didn't mean that he 'hated' the place. He did however have a problem with the 2% of corrupt/lawless/untouchable Thais setting the countries agenda for the other 98%.

Even the apologist agreed with his reasoning.

But posters that need no education (about Thailand) continue to lecture us that the Koh Tao 'family' has no influence with the authorities.

That's some great shit they are smoking- is it available over the counter?

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Still, you want to persist that "Prey-Youth" doesn't have the power to trump the Turtle Island Turds and Co...If he wanted to...

He most certainly could, but he most certainly does not want to and won't.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

He most certainly could, but he most certainly does not want to and won't.

Yep...Bet he wishes it went a little differently, though...He had his chance...

Wasn't it PM Prayuth that opened the door for investigators from Britain ?

Maybe window-dressing (IMO) but not many countries allow another countries PD /DI's to prowl around conducting their own investigation. If they don't concur with the current finding there should be some interesting media coming ahead for many to soak up.

If those kids didn't do it they just need to be allowed to go home.
Finding the real culprits may never take precedent with the investigation.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Wasn't it PM Prayuth that opened the door for investigators from Britain ?

Under diplomatic pressure from UK FCO and then pushed further by PM. However, it didn't take long before he denied it all...as is the Thai way.

Lots of suspicious deaths and serious crime being publicised more and more to give as much negative publicity as possible for Thailand as a tourist destination. All but the cheapo's will be going elsewhere if the holiday is not already booked.

Thank the two posters above as i was not abreast of the promise withdrawn for assistance from the UK.

^ "You guys shouldn't fight, cause you are both clever, nice guys"

My Japanese fiancé made me write that lol.. but I wholeheartedly agree. Oh, Because I can't make a new post, bit (a lot) off topic, newsflash! Thai guy killed 2 old Japanese men (to gain insurance).

please continue...

British police, accompanied by their Thai counterparts, on Saturday inspect Sairee beach on Koh Tao where two Britons were murdered.

Bangkok Post
October 25, 2014
Writer: Supapong Chaolan

SURAT THANI — British police made a surprise visit to Koh Tao on Saturday to inspect locations related to the murders of two backpackers, a source said.

They arrived on the island by helicopter from Bangkok, accompanied by Jarumporn Suramanee, an adviser to the national police chief, and Suwat Jaengyodsuk, acting deputy commander of the Metropolitan Police Bureau.

Pol Maj Gen Suwat is the chief investigator in the case, having been assigned earlier by national police chief Somyot Pumpanmuang to take over from local officers. Pol Gen Jarumporn is a forensic expert who went to the crime scene days after the murder occurred.

The trip was kept secret, with no police officers in Surat Thani province or Provincial Police Region 8 informed. Police based on Koh Tao and neighbouring Koh Phangan were not allowed to join the meeting or take pictures of the visitors.

Only one rescue volunteer on Koh Tao was brought in to provide information about the events of Sept 15, when Hannah Witheridge, 23, and David Miller, 24, were killed, according to the source.

The British team went to Sairee beach were the two were murdered, and inspected the nearby location where the two suspects stayed and were seen playing guitar. They also went to the AC Bar where the two victims had been seen before their deaths, and stopped at a place near the clock tower where police claimed they had found Miller's mobile phone.

They took pictures and asked for information before holding closed-door talks in the meeting room of the Koh Tao municipality before returning to Bangkok.

Three Scotland Yard police were believed to be on the trip from Bangkok, joining two others who had come to the island on Friday, according to the source.

At least one British officer is a homicide detective and another one is an experienced crime scene expert, another source said. They arrived in Bangkok on Wednesday.

Koh Tao mayor Chaiyant Turasakul said he was not aware of the visit and was only ordered to arrange local officials to facilitate their visit.

Full article: UK police quietly tour Koh Tao | Bangkok Post: news

Seems they are being taken very seriously, no locals allowed except rescue volunteer. (Wonder if that was the family's cousin?)

Interesting that local police weren't informed of the visit and excluded from the meeting and even the mayor apparently wasn't included in the visit.
That must grate a bit.
Guessing there will be some serious scrambling behind the scenes.

Unannounced visit, helicopter supplied, sounds like cooperation, at least to start with.

Originally Posted by YOrlov

no locals allowed except rescue volunteer. (Wonder if that was the family's cousin?)

I thought it would've been that bald headed Farang volunteer but don't see him in the photo. If he's still on the island, surely he would've been the best one to talk to so that his body language could be read as to whether he's reluctant or hesitant answering any questions put to him.

Originally Posted by Bower

Unannounced visit, helicopter supplied

I'd bet the helicopter will be paid by the UK, but way to go..

BRITISH GOVERNMENT CONCERNED OVER ALLEGATIONS OF CORRUPTION IN KOH TAO MURDER INVESTIGATION

BRITISH GOVERNMENT CONCERNED OVER ALLEGATIONS OF CORRUPTION IN KOH TAO MURDER INVESTIGATION - Andrew Drummond

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

^ "You guys shouldn't fight, cause you are both clever, nice guys"
My Japanese fiancé made me write that lol..

You're a good lad, NZ...And cheers to the wee lass...Congrats to you both...May the wind be always at your back and the buffalo hold you safe in their cloven hooves...

Given that no one, not even the Thai police, thinks for one moment the British police believe the Burmese patsies are the culprits this little charade is merely the prelude to the main event when the junta decides to make their move.

Will the general doggedly stick to stupidity or will he realise his position is untenable and let the Court/ prosecutors rule there is no case to answer because the evidence is as crap as the entire world knows already.

Daresay, a few older heads are having words.

Still, nice to see the Detective Chief Inspector is wearing his suit. Chap looks the part and that steely look as some mouthpiece spouts gibberish at him is forged in the crucible of a career dealing with the worst villains and politicians anyone might expect.