Thread: President Trump - 2nd Term

Originally Posted by david44

Indeed of course Putin may not wait that long and once swallowed Odessa may try for Moldova of which he controls Trnsdniestra part already.

I think I posted early on in the Ukraine war that Putin's long term goal was to push Russia's border West as far as the Carpathian Mountains. That is still my view. It includes control of the Donbas and its mineral resources, control of the Black Sea coast and a natural defensive wall along the edge of Europe.
Of course this means Moldova will disappear and a slice of Romania too. Belarus is a lackey state and will be easily re-adsorbed. Throw in a couple of Baltic states giving unhindered access to the Baltic and it's job done.
Any peace deal in Ukraine will only delay, not defeat this plan. Only the will of the Russian people can change things.

And I'm guessing the timing of this was deliberate.

The Trump administration has listed more than 400 government properties for possible sale.
The General Services Administration, which manages federal properties, said on its website the buildings were "not core to government operations".
Among the 443 properties was the headquarters of the US Department of Justice, and buildings belonging to the FBI, the Labour Department and other major agencies.

^ Will they make good hotels?

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Is anyone watching this embarrassing tirade?

nauseating

It was mostly common sense, interrupted now and then by silly hyperbole.

Strange that the sour faced democrats couldnt even bring themseves to cheer cancer survivors, the relatives of those murdered by terrorists and the bravery of police and the military. They just sat there sucking lemons like children denied ice cream..

Originally Posted by taxexile

It was mostly common sense

Yes, starting a global trade war and kissing Putin's arse are "common sense".

Still, all the dog whistling seems to work well with the retarded.

Trump reigns supreme. His enemies no longer matter

In his address to Congress, the Democrats, Europe and Zelensky were reduced to mere sideshow.

Two messages stood out in the US President’s speech - the Democrats don’t matter and neither does Europe


05 March 2025 5:22am GMT
Tim Stanley

Fantastic, shameless, five-star entertainment. Tuesday night’s address to Congress was the apotheosis of Trump the TV host, Trump the people’s friend. What other president would induct a kid with brain cancer into the Secret Service? Or tell a young man he’d won a place at West Point? And when Elizabeth Warren gave an extra long hand clap for Ukraine, he called her Pocahontas and brought the house down. Folks, this wasn’t politics. It was like watching Sinatra play Vegas.

Two messages stood out: the Democrats don’t matter, and neither does Europe. The party of opposition wore pink to show solidarity with women - gender stereotyping! - and held up little paddles that read “false” or “that’s a lie”. They looked like they were bidding on meds in a retirement home. They are old. They are cranky. They even booed Trump saying he won the election, which was one the few things he uttered that was indisputable. Al Green, a 77-year old congressman from Texas, waved his cane, shouted and was led out, after JD Vance gave security a “remove him” signal with his hand. Green didn’t look righteous; he looked confused.

Melania looked like Ursa from Superman II, in a funky dress - though she smiled more than either Ursa or Melania usually do. Trump got laughs listing the items discovered in Elon’s purge of federal spending: money to turn mice transsexual, to bring Sesame Street to Arabia and “eight million dollars to promote LGBTQ+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which no one has ever heard of”. One person receiving Social Security, he said, is listed as “360 years old, more than one hundred years older than our country” (and nearly twice as old as Nancy Pelosi).

The Republicans lapped it up; one Dem was caught on camera sighing and shaking his head (at what? Border security? Fighting crime?). Trump’s smartest move was to treat the liberals like a nuisance in a night-club audience: mock them, toy with them, point out their absurdity. “I could find a cure” for a disease, or “announce the answers for the greatest economy in history... and these people would not clap.”

What he did announce was “drill baby drill”, the end of woke, tariffs on the world and, by way of introducing Robert Kennedy Jnr, a pledge to find the cause of autism (”With the name Kennedy, you’d think everyone over there would be cheering.”) Greenland will be America’s “one way or another.” He rounded off by announcing America’s voyage “to Mars and even far beyond.” Elon the Vulcan is going to Pluto.

But what of Ukraine? It was there, briefly. Trump wants the war to end; he took delight in quoting a letter from Zelensky in which he says he wants to sign the mineral deal. You might think Trump is pure evil - fine. But his strategy has paid off and he’s got what he wants: the minerals, Zelensky’s submission and Europe spending more on its own defence. His broader project represents the victory of the paleoconservative movement. South Korea, he said, puts tariffs on US goods but makes America pay to defend it from the commies - a Cold War hangover that might end. America putting itself first.

The most important issue in the speech wasn’t Russia or even the Mexico border. It was eggs. The price has skyrocketed thanks to a bird flu outbreak, which is no one’s fault - but the Dems blame Trump and Trump blames Joe Biden, mentioned here as “the worst president in history.” “Donald, by contrast, has had “the most successful” first few weeks ever. “You know who number two is? George Washington.”

This is madness on a level not seen since Hugo Chavez handed out washing machines and fridges to voters on TV. Yet behind the spectacle is a revolution in government, the most determined effort since Reagan to shrink and repurpose the US government. Lesotho won’t know what hit it.



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Sanctions would need to be lifted first. The politics on that would be interesting.

The allies just need to see through the next four years, although I expect Vance or Musk to take the reigns after.

these tariffs will kill all the trade agreements america has made and with them will go the IP protections and DMCA that was foisted on so many countries - drumpf is going to see wall street tumble

^^ Musk cannot be president. Not born American.

^^ they already hold short positions.

^ he doesn't need to be he's defacto now

Originally Posted by misskit

^^ Musk cannot be president. Not born American.

Well, true - until Trump decides to suspend the constitution.....

Originally Posted by beachbound

the attack by Dumb and Dumber was preplanned, and scripted

I would file the following 2 ideas under tinfoil nutbaggery:

1. The conflagration in the Oval Office last Friday was a master-plan cunningly rehearsed in advance by Trump and Vance
2. Putin is controlling Trump via a secret Moscow sex/peeing tape

On Friday Trump was uncharacteristically patient with Zelensky during the first 40 minutes, letting many of Zelensky's gripes about US support slide. Trump clearly wanted to do the mineral deal. Staging that pantomime makes no sense.

One of Trumps strengths (or character flaws depending on the way you look at it) is that he is relatively shameless for a major public figure, making him very difficult to blackmail in such a way.

"Al Green, a 77-year old congressman from Texas, waved his cane, shouted and was led out, after JD Vance gave security a “remove him” signal with his hand".


Good grief.... like a medieval kinglet signalling "bailiff, take him away".




"Yet behind the spectacle is a revolution in government, the most determined effort since Reagan to shrink and repurpose the US government".


FTFY

"Yet behind the spectacle is a revolution in government, the most demented effort since Reagan to shrink and repurpose the US government".

Originally Posted by Looper

One of Trumps strengths (or character flaws depending on the way you look at it) is that he is relatively shameless for a major public figure, making him very difficult to blackmail in such a way.

You've got to be fucking kidding. He has the most sensitive ego going and hates being made to look stupid.

This is why he surrounds himself with arse kissers.

Originally Posted by Salsa dancer

Al Green, a 77-year old congressman from Texas, waved his cane, shouted

A spritely 77 year-old heckling a 78 year-old...

Shameful!

Originally Posted by Looper

I would file the following 2 ideas under tinfoil nutbaggery:

1. The conflagration in the Oval Office last Friday was a master-plan cunningly rehearsed in advance by Trump and Vance
2. Putin is controlling Trump via a secret Moscow sex/peeing tape

manipulating useful idiots is a subtle art

I think Trump can be genuinely funny at times. I almost fell off the sofa laughing when he said during the State of the Union address that nobody had ever heard of Lesotho.

Reading from a list of DOGE discovered funding waste:

...Eight million dollars to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of...

But, apparently they are not amused

Lesotho shocked by Donald Trump'''s remarks that '''nobody has heard of the country'''

Originally Posted by Loopy

I think Trump can genuinely be funny, at times

Absolutely no surprise there. I hear he’s a real stitch, at funerals.

Originally Posted by misskit

^^ Musk cannot be president. Not born American.

And there's the 'taking the reigns' thing too.

Not that numpt is as thick as two short planks or anything.

Originally Posted by Looper

I I almost fell off the sofa laughing when he said during the State of the Union address that nobody had ever heard of Lesotho

Only ignorant pricks have never heard of Lesotho. But I suppose that counts for nearly half of the voting American population.

While you were laughing, you might like to reflect on the fact that approximately 25% of the Basotho people of Lesotho are believed to be infected with HIV.

You wanna take a bet that much of that money goes to screening and education programs for HIV?

You really are an absurdly silly man.

The whole Trump and brown nose Vance vs Zelenskyy thing looked very confected.

Surely it's true-Vlad has something on the orange turd.