Ukraine war mega thread

[Backspin]

Thief and Murderer. Don't forget Thief and Murderer.

The US can make up anything it wants about Putin and you will believe it.

[kingwilly]

Hoohoo you retard, both the UK and NATO are saying they will deploy troops to NATO countries to stop Vlad getting any more ideas - and not to Ukraine.

Are you and sabang having a contest to see who is the biggest fucking thicko?

Can both win?

[kingwilly]

The continuous drive for invented and tradition boogiemen runs deep.

Ypur continuous drivel continues

[NamPikToot]

Russia isn't overthrowing the US friendly regime in Mexico and flying weapons into the country. And threatening to take back Texas which the US annexed in 1845.

no, but its throwing its weight around on sovereign soil. i've cut you slack but really you are an imbecile, If you want to change most peoples opinion on that you'll only achieve it by posting less or not at all.

[bsnub]

Russia isn't overthrowing the US friendly regime in Mexico and flying weapons into the country.

There is no "regime" in Mexico, you utter buffoon. It is a democracy. Why must you burden this forum with your utter idiocy over and over again?

Someone please jail this tedious moron.

[sabang]

I would think that if the Mods are looking at anything snubs, it would be the constant drivel of childish, petty insults from the likes of you and 'arry- with absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand. Deliberately or not, you derail every thread.


Oh, congratulations- you took out the Isil head honcho and some of his tribe a few hours ago. Spiffing!

[Backspin]

Can both win?

stick a sock in it Dr. Bill

[Backspin]

There is no "regime" in Mexico, you utter buffoon. It is a democracy. Why most you burden this forum with your utter idiocy over and over again?

Someone please jail this tedious moron.

Ukraine has been a fucking democracy since 1991. FACT. Jesus christ. What don't you understand about this FACT ?

[harrybarracuda]

I would think that if the Mods are looking at anything snubs, it would be the constant drivel of childish, petty insults from the likes of you and 'arry- with absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand. Deliberately or not, you derail every thread.


Oh, congratulations- you took out the Isil head honcho and some of his tribe a few hours ago. Spiffing!

No-one is derailing this thread.

You're filling it with bollocks though, like the dutiful drone you are.

[bsnub]

Ukraine has been a fucking democracy since 1991.

Where did I ever say that Ukraine wasn't a democracy, you halfwit? You called Mexico a "regime". I pointed out that Mexico is a democracy. You seem to have confused yourself again.

Jesus christ. What don't you understand about this FACT ?

You really do make an ass out of yourself over and over again.

Deliberately or not, you derail every thread.

No, I just call out the horseshit that you post. I mean, the last turd you rolled out, you sourced a phony Russian think tank that has been banned on Facebook for posting fake news. Remember these guys on the last page...

a network that “helped spread conspiracy theories aimed at English-speaking audiences, including by fueling false rumors that the coronavirus was produced as a bioweapon and that a potential vaccine would include tracking technology.”^[5] The Post’s report stated that the Strategic Culture Foundation “also spread false information that Bill Gates, the tech executive and philanthropist, was leading efforts to create a vaccine with surveillance capabilities.” The Post’s report called the Strategic Culture Foundation “a phony think tank”.

These are the types of sources that three of you regularly trot out. I simply call a spade for what it is.

[panama hat]

Czechoslovakian government

Fark me dead, you are a dense one . . .

Germany kicks RT off the air in Germany.

Because:

A German broadcasting regulator announced yesterday that RT must stop broadcasting German-language programs in Germany as it "does not have the necessary broadcasting license." More background

So Russia retaliates in kind.

Without legal basis, as opposed to Germany where RT could have taken the ruling to court several times

Then, Germany has a little hissy fit because Russia retaliated.

DW Director General @dw_Limbourg says Russia's decision to shut down the broadcaster's office in Moscow "is a total overreaction." He pledged to "intensify" reporting on events happening within Russia. More here: Peter Limbourg on DW ban: ′Disappointing′ reaction from Russia′s government | DW News - latest news and breaking stories | DW | 03.02.2022

That's your "hissy-fit"?

Now watch. The Anglo media will report how the Russian government is coming down on "free speech" and pressuring journalists. Without revealing who started it.

It is, isn't it? And who started it? Russia.

You're not clever enough to try and be a 'sabang' . . . you simply look dense

[HermantheGerman]

One of the presidents of Estonia realized this, that they were being used just to batter Russia. So she called a meeting with Putin to settle things down.

She looks like a Shield Maiden

Anyway, Skidmark is a Dildo. This picture was taken 2019 and Kaljulaid was in Moscow to inaugurate the renovated building of the Estonian embassy in Russia.
Not what you dream it up to be, you stupid drunken idiot.

[HermantheGerman]

Amid tensions with Russia, Estonia has reported a violation of its airspace by a Russian military plane. The army announced that a Su-27 fighter jet entered the airspace of the EU and NATO country without permission on Saturday.

[HermantheGerman]

hahaha get this.

Germany kicks RT off the air in Germany.


So Russia retaliates in kind.



Then, Germany has a little hissy fit because Russia retaliated.


Now watch. The Anglo media will report how the Russian government is coming down on "free speech" and pressuring journalists. Without revealing who started it.

Why do you bother to post something that you simply can not comprehend. You already had great problems in elementary school...remember?
Stick to Marvel comics Dildo!

[harrybarracuda]

Why do you bother to post something that you simply can not comprehend. You already had great problems in elementary school...remember?
Stick to Marvel comics Dildo!

I think pop-up and colouring books are about his limit really.

[OhOh]

More horse shit from the western media and NaGastan Government.

U.S. warns Russia may stage video as pretext to invade Ukraine

By Steve Holland, Dmitry Antonov

"Summary

• U.S. says plan could include actors playing mourners
• Moscow accuses Washington of heightening tensions with troops
  

• NATO says Russia expected to have 30,000 troops in Belarus
• WASHINGTON/MOSCOW/KYIV, Feb 4 (Reuters) - Russia has formulated several options as an excuse to invade Ukraine, including the potential use of a propaganda video showing a staged attack, the United States said on Thursday, as the Kremlin condemned American troop deployments in the region."

U.S. warns Russia may stage video as pretext to invade Ukraine, article with video

Michael Knowles

@michaeljknowles

"State Dept.: Russia is going to launch a false flag attack as a pretext to invade Ukraine.

Reporter: What's your evidence?

State Dept.: I just gave it to you.

Reporter: No, you made an allegation.

State Dept.: Yes, that's the evidence.

Reporter: "

https://twitter.com/i/status/1489336004637044746

[OhOh]

Reuters Front Page.

AWH - BBBI - Bombs, Bodies and Bullshit (Aggressive War Headline - BBB Index ):

Daily Tally:

February 4, 2022 9:10 AM GMT+7

Western countries: 5

Rest of the World: 0

[Listerman]

/\ /\

The problem is the American government still cannot seem to be able to differentiate between facts and allegations.

They still seem to think this type of approach will work for them:

[bsnub]

More horse shit from the western media and NaGastan Government.

Are you mentally well? Is Nagastan a fantasy land place in your unwell mind? I sure have never heard of it. Is it in Narnia?

Michael Knowles

Quoting right wing trumpanzees will not get you far on the credibility scale.

The problem is the American government still cannot seem to be able to differentiate between facts and allegations.

Perhaps you could explain what you are actually talking about and present some links to back said claims up rather than posting some video from twenty years ago.

[sabang]

Are you really this simple minded, or just being disingenuous? The author is Alastair Crooke, as I pointed out- ex MI6 & EU diplomat. His article will have been published/ disseminated in both the link provided, and numerous other websites. It is the same article, by the same author- whichever website you use to link to it. Alastair Crooke has also been published in The Guardian-

Alastair Crooke | The Guardian

And has a wee Wiki-

Alastair Crooke - Wikipedia


A more beefy Wikispooks-

Alistair Crooke - Wikispooks



As for SCF, ooh how terrible- a pro-Russia site. Ya mean, like that RT? Certainly bear that in mind when you read one of their Editorials- but they publish some interesting articles, such as this latest one from Alastair Crooke. SCF is in my Favorites folder, along with dozens of other websites, and I check it periodically. Would this be illegal in the USA?

[OhOh]

Quoting right wing trumpanzees will not get you far on the credibility scale.

Try watching the state department website video and enjoy the sight of an employee of the SD liar, being called out by a "respected", as acknowledged by the employee, Associated Press writer Matt Lee:



The daily "press release" starts at 42:43. The embarrassing Q and A, follows.

[harrybarracuda]

More horse shit from the western media and NaGastan Government.

U.S. warns Russia may stage video as pretext to invade Ukraine

By Steve Holland, Dmitry Antonov

"Summary

• U.S. says plan could include actors playing mourners
• Moscow accuses Washington of heightening tensions with troops
  

• NATO says Russia expected to have 30,000 troops in Belarus
• WASHINGTON/MOSCOW/KYIV, Feb 4 (Reuters) - Russia has formulated several options as an excuse to invade Ukraine, including the potential use of a propaganda video showing a staged attack, the United States said on Thursday, as the Kremlin condemned American troop deployments in the region."

U.S. warns Russia may stage video as pretext to invade Ukraine, article with video

Michael Knowles

@michaeljknowles

"State Dept.: Russia is going to launch a false flag attack as a pretext to invade Ukraine.

Reporter: What's your evidence?

State Dept.: I just gave it to you.

Reporter: No, you made an allegation.

State Dept.: Yes, that's the evidence.

Reporter: "

https://twitter.com/i/status/1489336004637044746

The Finnish know all about filthy Russian false flags.

[bsnub]

The author is Alastair Crooke, as I pointed out- ex MI6 & EU diplomat.

So what. Seems like he took to shilling for the Russian government. Times must be tough.

His article will have been published/ disseminated in both the link provided, and numerous other websites.

Do you have a link to these other websites that the article is published on?

As for SCF, ooh how terrible- a pro-Russia site.

Apparently you did not read what I posted. I will post it again...

No, I just call out the horseshit that you post. I mean, the last turd you rolled out, you sourced a phony Russian think tank that has been banned on Facebook for posting fake news. Remember these guys on the last page...

SCF a network that “helped spread conspiracy theories aimed at English-speaking audiences, including by fueling false rumors that the coronavirus was produced as a bioweapon and that a potential vaccine would include tracking technology.”^[5] The Post’s report stated that the Strategic Culture Foundation “also spread false information that Bill Gates, the tech executive and philanthropist, was leading efforts to create a vaccine with surveillance capabilities.” The Post’s report called the Strategic Culture Foundation “a phony think tank”.




These are the types of sources that three of you regularly trot out. I simply call a spade for what it is.

Ya mean, like that RT?

Is RT banned on facebook for posting fake news?

[sabang]

Snubby, a simple exercise-

1. Open Google
2. Type "Alastair Crooke Ukraine: Another Biden Debacle" on your splooge stained keyboard
3. Press "Enter"
4. Behold the wondrous world of other websites that have published said article!
5. Splooge your keyboard, again.

You're welcome.

[NamPikToot]

Difficult one, how do you appease Putin and keep the gas flowing whilst seeming to act?, you send some protection, some helmets. Not sure why Germans are surprised, he's never answered a question.

Almost invisible’: Germans lose patience with Olaf Scholz as he hesitates on Ukraine

The new chancellor has faced criticism abroad for his stance, and is now coming under fire at home

Germany’s new chancellor Olaf Scholz is waving goodbye to the honeymoon period of his tenure, as his “inaudible” stance over the brewing crisis on the Ukrainian border is failing to impress not just Russia-hawks abroad but also more ambivalent voters at home.

Scholz, whose liberal-left “traffic light” coalition was sworn in less than two months ago, has been criticised by Kyiv and other east-central European capitals for sticking to his country’s restrictive stance on weapons export to crisis regions and looking slow to spell out the potential sanctions that could be triggered by a Russian invasion into Ukraine.

This week, Scholz has also had to face similar criticism in Berlin, however. “How does it feel when allies are classifying Germany’s attitude as unreliable?”, the Social Democrat politician was asked in an interview on German television on Wednesday night.

When Scholz denied this was the case, the host interrupted him, pointing out that even his ambassador in Washington had warned in a leaked memo that “Germany, we have a problem”.

While Angela Merkel rarely excelled as an orator or rhetorician, Scholz “seems to want to surpass her in the art of disappearance”, wrote weekly Der Spiegel, describing her successor’s performance over the last few weeks as “almost invisible, inaudible”.

A survey by pollster Infratest Dimap published on Thursday saw support for Scholz’s SPD drop to 22%, overtaken by the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) on 27%. His personal approval rating dropped by 17 percentage points in the same poll.

One factor that has undermined the chancellor’s authority in particular is the behaviour of his last centre-left predecessor in the chancellory – and former boss – Gerhard Schröder, who continues to comment on global affairs in his role as chair of Russian energy companies Nord Stream and Rosneft.

In his television interview, Scholz was urged to clarify that he was not taking the ex-chancellor turned lobbyist’s advice. “If I understand the constitution of the federal German republic correctly, there is only one chancellor and that is me,” Scholz said with characteristic understatement.

Yet another factor that may explain the German leader’s paralysis is that he is catering towards often contradictory views on Russia held by the German public.

The US is traditionally identified by Germans as their most important partner – a November 2021 survey by the Körber Foundation found a resurgent faith in transatlantic relations after the election of US president Joe Biden. Less than 5% of those surveyed believed Russia to be an important partner.

But as a whole the German public does not perceive Vladimir Putin’s Russia to be a direct threat either. The same poll, carried out before the buildup of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border last December, has only 16% of Germans surveyed identifying Russia as a threat to German values. More than 80% said the country was a minor threat or no threat at all.

On the conflict on the Ukrainian border, German doveishness is not merely a party-political compromise: Infratest Dimap’s poll of the public saw a clear majority in favour of granting Russian security assurances from Nato and even a slim majority against economic sanctions.

Restricting arms exports into crisis regions on principle is not only backed by every party in the Bundestag – from the far-right Alternative für Deutschland to leftwing Die Linke – but also a 71% majority of the electorate.

Such tendencies are even more pronounced among older generations and those living in the eastern regions of the country. A survey by pollster Forsa published this week found 43% of those living in the former states of socialist East Germany hold the US responsible for intensifying the conflict in eastern Ukraine, while only 32% blamed Russia. In western Germany, 52% held Russia responsible, and only 17% said the problem lay with the US.

Holding such differing views in balance is a particular problem for Scholz and his party: the SPD currently governs in all five states of the former east, whose premiers wield influence via the Bundesrat, the upper house of the German parliament.

One of these states, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, where the SPD scored a clean sweep of direct mandates at last year’s election, is also where the Nord Stream 2 pipeline arrives from Russia. The completed-but-unapproved infrastructure project, criticised by most of Europe for making Germany reliant on Russian gas, is highly popular among the local population and supported by Social Democrat politicians in the region.

Scholz’s disappearing act is not going to satisfy these voters, however, said Liana Fix, a Russia expert for the Körber Foundation and resident fellow at the German Marshall Fund.

“Again and again, what we found when we surveyed the German public on attitudes to Russia is that independence matters: people don’t like the feeling they’re being talked into something,” Fix told the Guardian.

“German voters may not want their country to supply weapons, but they want their leader to be visible in the diplomatic effort. And that is something that should be within Scholz’s reach.”



‘Almost invisible’: Germans lose patience with Olaf Scholz as he hesitates on Ukraine | Olaf Scholz | The Guardian