Thread: Mitt Romney

Obama is giving states greater ability to decide for themselves how welfare should be administered. Something they asked for years ago. Romney is lying. He's not misleading. He's not "hitting back." He's not misrepresenting. He's balls out lying.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

All the attack ads I have seen coming from Obama's side have been real and justified. They may sensationalize a bit but are for the most part true.

the recent super PAC ad about the guy's wife dying was factually accurate but entirely misleading.

if i had to guess, i'd say the obama campaign and its supporters finally got tired of having only the other side put out misleading ads.....so they put out one of their own so the romney camp could see how it is....and boy did they squeal.

Ann Coulter took Andrea Saul's comments in her usual calm and measured way on Hannity last night:

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Ann Coulter torches Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul, says Romney must fire her » The Right Scoop -

Originally Posted by bsnub

If you are someone that still is fighting for a new world then you will vote for Obama. He is the finger in the leak until something better comes along.

very good point,

Originally Posted by bsnub

Watch the video below, courtesy of HBO:

Bill Maher’s New Rule To Conservatives: ‘You Act Exactly Like 14-Year-Old Boys’ | Mediaite

brilliant,

Originally Posted by raycarey

so they put out one of their own so the romney camp could see how it is....and boy did they squeal

of course they did, that's all they are good for, squeal like little pigs that they are

14?? Pfft.

The vast majority of repubs have signed on to a tax policy dreamed up by a 12 year old in 1968..

Norquist: I came up with anti-tax pledge when I was 12 | The Raw Story

Bill Maher’s New Rule To Conservatives: ‘You Act Exactly Like 14-Year-Old Boys’

For the most part I like Bill Mahar and his points.

But in this case (quote above) he is just doing the same as those who disagrees with.

As former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum explains:

For the past year, we have watched him be pushed around by the radical GOP fringe. He’s been forced to abjure his most important achievement as governor, his healthcare plan. In December, he was compelled to sign onto the Ryan budget plan after months of squirming to avoid it. Last fall he released an elaborate economic plan. On the eve of the Michigan primary, he ripped it up and instead accepted a huge new tax cut – to a top rate of 28 per cent – that has never been costed (and that he now tries to avoid mentioning whenever he can). Romney has acknowledged in interviews that he understands that big rapid cuts in government spending could push the US economy back into recession. Yet he campaigns anyway on the Tea Party’s false promise that it’s the deficit that causes the depression, rather than (as he well knows) the other way around.

Mitt’s business and financial record, shrouded in secrecy, has been turned into a battering ram by the Obama campaign. No longer does the press corps swallow the idea that Mitt and Bain Capital created jobs. Instead, more and more, Bain is associated with a malignant force in our economy: gamblers who play with other people’s money, raking in big gains while socializing their losses.
The National Memo » If Mitt Romney Is Going To Lose, He’s Going To Lose Ugly


Frum cuts right to the quick here. The republican base likes it's political candidates to at least have a 'strong' image (although they are generally chickenhawks). Romney doesn't- he has been pushed from pillar to post by pandering to the populist right, and he really has no message left if indeed, he ever had one. All of his previous positions have been overturned, and his only real political achievement is an embarassment to him before his own party base. His succesful business career is being used succesfully as a battering ram against him too.

He inspires no enthusiasm or personal identification- not within the diehard republican base, and crucially not among the swing voters, who really have little idea who this Mitt guy is and what he stands for, beyond being just another suit who made out like a bandit. Perhaps this guy, who was certainly a successful business leader, has been sold downstream by the campaign advice he has been following. Perhaps, the message he has to sell is so threadbare it never stood much of a chance anyway (outside of the usual diehards). Or perhaps he is just not political leadership material- unable to sell a coherent vision, unable even to sell a hot dog at a fat show. Because really, campaigning in a weak economy, when people are hurting, is a politicians wet dream.

Yes, I indeed think Mitt is going to lose- but even more so, the Romney campaign is lost. There is no campaign left to speak of, besides "hey look at me, I was successful (and i'm not black)". Not as a politician, Mitt- you have come up short. I'm sure this is being discussed within the republican party machine- it's well and truly time to take your party back from the teabaggers, chaps. They have done you no favors at all, and you have done yourself no favors pandering to them. Piss Weak- which is something a republican hates to be called.

Originally Posted by sabang

t's well and truly time to take your party back from the teabaggers, chaps.

But can they? Weak as he is now, it seems impossible to lose against those Republicans.

Originally Posted by raycarey

if i had to guess, i'd say the obama campaign and its supporters finally got tired of having only the other side put out misleading ads.....so they put out one of their own so the romney camp could see how it is....and boy did they squeal.

So Obama and his team cannot distinguish the difference between calling someone a murderer and someone calling them incompetent nincompoops.

Where have we seen that before?

Originally Posted by sabang

As former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum explains:

I think it's still too early to tell. If Romney were a dimwit he'd be broke. He's not broke so he's not a dimwit.


Very few voters are paying attention at this time of year. It's summer. If people aren't at the lake or the beach then they are watching the Olympics. Why submit a detailed plan or devote money to the fight? Any plan submitted now will become old news not worthless to the media in September and October. Obama has spent hundreds of millions and there is barely a nudge in the polls. Romney is still within margin of error. He is right where he should be - on the road meeting people on a one on one basis. Let talk radio and Hannity carry the national airwaves fight for free for now.


The VP pick at the convention will tell who is willing to join him, who has the confidence that Romney doesn't need to be dragged across the finish line. It won't be Rubio. He is a family man. He won't force his wife to allow their children to be savaged by the election process (Palin and her children). He won't subject his young children to the ugly teasing outsider children receive in Washington DC (Amy Carter).

First week in September Romney should reveal his strategy. That's when I'll know for sure whether he's a dud or not.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by attaboy

On a side note, the locals of Hawaii have a collectivist attitude similar to Thailand and Indonesia. Obama lived in Hawaii moved to Indonesia and returned to Hawaii to attend prep school. So 18 years of his life were lived immersed in a culture of collectivism.

Where did that amazing little tidbit come from?

Tell me where the facts fail to make the point. [biggerthanyours][/biggerthanyours]

^what facts? You can't make up 'facts' to suit you.

Originally Posted by Norton

Quote: Originally Posted by MrG Please cite Obama's lies about Romney.

Norton responds: Several. The Obama campaign's negative attacks on Romney related to his role at Bain are if not lies are innuendo he is unfit to be President even though Romney had little to do with the Bain behavior in question.

Romney had little to do with what Bain was doing? Hmmmm. Romney was CEO of Bain but not responsible. That's a tough one. At some level he approved it. And Obama is lying with innuendo...? When does Romney take responsibility for his actions?

Originally Posted by Norton

Everything from blaming Romney for the current unemployment to playing an instrumental role in the current economic situation.

I have never heard Obama blame Romeny for the current unemployment. I have heard him blame policies that Romney supports. When is Romney going to take responisibility for his beliefs, instead of bob and weave to one side and then another whenever he's asked?

Originally Posted by Norton

The latest being Romney is personally responsible for the death of a woman because Bain shut down a plant.

Nobody said Romney was responsible for the man's wife's death. The man said he didn't think Romney realizes "...what he has done to people's lives by closing the plant." That's not innuendo, that's an observation by a regular guy whose life was eaten by events, and one of those events was Bain Capital closing the plant and relieving him and her of their abilty to obtain insurance thanks to Bain capital, which, not that it matters, Romney was CEO of. Take a look.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-steps-up-ad-attack-on-romney-bain-20120806,0,5262150.story

When is Romney going to stand up and say something besides meaningless platitudes which flip from audience to audience?

By the way: since when does innuendo make somebody unfit to be President. The hyperbole is way over the top.

Originally Posted by MrG

Romney had little to do with what Bain was doing? Hmmmm. Romney was CEO of Bain but not responsible. That's a tough one. At some level he approved it. And Obama is lying with innuendo...? When does Romney take responsibility for his actions?

Try to keep up there MrG, Romney wasn't even with Bain when this guy was laid off. To further the issue, even the Democrats tell y'all you need to take a shower:

Lanny Davis, a former top adviser to President Bill Clinton, today issued a scathing rebuke to a controversial new Democratic super PAC ad that ties Mitt Romney to a woman’s death from cancer. “I’m pretty sad for our country that we have presidential candidates engaging in sophomoric — and that’s a compliment — sophomoric name calling,” Davis said in an interview on WMAL radio in Washington. (Snip) Davis says both Romney and Obama, and their supporters, have sponsored ads “that make us all want to take a shower.

The. Bro. Gotta. Go.

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Guess you missed the memo, eh? Obama's campaign fessed up to knowledge of the scurrilous ad.

btw, this campaign star is a totally dishonest person. He got laid off in 2001, his wife was working and had health insurance for two years after he was laid off. She got sick and died in 2006 in five years later, why didn't get a job sooner than that. How can he blame anyone but himself for the decisions he made.

I'm curious how many Mitt supporters living in Thailand will actually cast a ballot.

Originally Posted by misskit

I'm curious how many Mitt supporters living in Thailand will actually cast a ballot.

Me for one...

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Mitt Romney with anti-communist leader Lech Walesa in Poland.

What- a Republican meeting with a militant Trade Union leader? Solidarity, Bro.
The Horror.

yeah, i found it quite amusing that the highlight of romney's international trip was a meeting with a former labor leader.



btw, the romney campaign may go down as one of the most incompetent in the last few decades.

it's just one gaffe after another.


IMO in this economic climate with the current unemployment numbers, romney should be ahead by 5 -7 points.....there's still a lot of time left (and a lot of money to spend), but i'm getting the feeling that he's blown it.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Obama is giving states greater ability to decide for themselves how welfare should be administered. Something they asked for years ago. Romney is lying. He's not misleading. He's not "hitting back." He's not misrepresenting. He's balls out lying.

No lying going on here but the facts. Romney Has A Point On Welfare: “Romney’s attack on Obama over welfare reform must have tested well, given the President’s firehose-like stream of defenses. Many of those defenses are bogus.”

Indeed The legal architecture of the work requirements has been altered. Therefore, we'll see more out of work bums who suck off those that are working and have no incentive to get a job themselves. Nice work there Barry!

Obama has been missing from the world stage for a while now staying at home and sending Hilary around the globe.
Good move i think when you're not too sure how to handle the Iranian nuke programe and time is looming to the next elections.
Fcuk off out of it and let Romney scare the shite out of those goat hearding mullahs before the Israelis decide the time has come to act.

Originally Posted by dobella

when you're not too sure how to handle the Iranian nuke programe

Simple- sell them uranium, end the sanctions and buy their oil (plus stick in some oil refineries)- and thus make the Israeli's up their game.

It's Campaign season, Obama won't be doing much travel outside the lower 48.