Mitt Romney

**Boon Mee** · 13-09-2012, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by aging one

Romney is beginning to implode. Wait till we get to the debates.

Not so fast there AO.

Obama Throws Cairo Embassy Under The Bus: We didn't do it! It was unauthorized!

So it appears that everyone agrees with Romney that the statement was wildly inappropriate or what?

**S Landreth** · 13-09-2012, 10:18 AM

Romney Timeline

FACT CHECK: Romney Misstates Facts On Attacks

WASHINGTON (AP) — The gunfire at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, had barely ceased when Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney seriously mischaracterized what had happened in a statement accusing President Barack Obama of "disgraceful" handling of violence there and at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.

"The Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks," Romney said in a statement first emailed to reporters at 10:09 p.m. Eastern time, under the condition it not be published until midnight.

In fact, neither a statement by the U.S. Embassy in Cairo earlier in the day nor a later statement from Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton offered sympathy for attackers. The statement from the Cairo Embassy had condemned anti-Muslim religious incitement before the embassy walls were breached. In her statement, issued minutes before Romney's, Clinton had offered the administration's first response to the violence in Libya, explicitly condemning the attack there and confirming the death of a State Department official.

"I condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in Benghazi today," Clinton said in a written statement received by The Associated Press at 10:08 p.m. "As we work to secure our personnel and facilities, we have confirmed that one of our State Department officers was killed. We are heartbroken by this terrible loss."

Then, at 10:24 p.m., a Romney spokeswoman lifted the release restriction on the Republican's statement, and it was widely published.

At the time, the Romney campaign did not know that the U.S. ambassador, Christopher Stevens, had been killed, nor did the Obama administration. Libyans told American officials around midnight that the ambassador had died, but Americans were unable to confirm his identity until hours later.

"I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens," Obama said in his first statement at 7:21 a.m. Wednesday, the next morning.
A closer look at the day's events and rhetoric:
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Tuesday, Sept. 11, Cairo, Egypt

Early Tuesday morning, the U.S. Embassy in Cairo got word that demonstrators, angry about an anti-Islamic film produced in the U.S., were gathering in the streets. It issued a safety warning to Americans: Stay out of the streets.

As the situation became increasingly tense— but while the crowd was still peaceful — the U.S. Embassy in Cairo issued a statement condemning what it called "religious incitement" as it worked to calm the tensions.

"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions," the embassy said at 6:18 a.m. EDT, shortly after noon Cairo time.

That's the statement that Romney referred to as the administration's "first response." By Wednesday morning, the Republican nominee was at a podium in Jacksonville, Fla., saying that statement "appeared to be an apology for American principles." It's a theme Romney has hammered against Obama throughout his presidential campaign, including in his campaign book, "No Apology."

But the embassy's condemnation of religious incitement hardly amounted to an apology.

Romney also said Wednesday that the Cairo Embassy "put out a statement after their grounds had been breached. Protesters were inside the grounds. They reiterated that statement after the breach."

Not quite. Almost five hours after the Cairo Embassy issued its statement — at about 11:15 a.m. EDT — Associated Press images show protesters atop the Cairo Embassy's walls. At about 11:33 a.m. EDT, the American flag there had come down.

The embassy did use its Twitter account to say, at about 8 p.m. EDT, that "this morning's condemnation ... still stands." The tweet was later deleted.

The Obama administration later backed away from the embassy's statement entirely. "That statement was not coordinated with Washington. It was taken down," a senior administration official said.
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Tuesday, Sept. 11, Benghazi, Libya

As the protests in Cairo were winding down, the situation in Benghazi was getting worse. At about 4:15 p.m. EDT, senior administration officials said, attackers had entered the compound, firing at officials and setting the consulate's main building on fire. Three Americans were trapped inside, including Stevens, the ambassador. They became separated from each other; one made it out before going back inside to search for the others.

No one could find Stevens.

They took refuge in a second, smaller building around 4:45 p.m. EDT. More shooting started at 5 p.m., and two additional U.S. personnel were killed. Two more were wounded. It wasn't until 8:30 p.m. EDT that Libyan security forces helped the Americans regain control of the compound. Still, no one knew where Stevens was.

That was less than two hours before Romney's initial 10:10 p.m. statement.
At midnight, Libyans told American officials that Stevens was dead. But they had to wait until dawn to identify him.

At 10:43 a.m. EDT Wednesday, Obama was standing in the White House's Rose Garden, offering a tribute.
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Wednesday, Sept. 12, Jacksonville, Fla.

Just minutes before Obama appeared in the Rose Garden, Romney spoke to reporters at a hastily arranged news conference at his Jacksonville campaign office, walking to the podium at about 10:15 a.m. What was supposed to be a small rally was abruptly turned into a statement of condolence for the deaths in Libya — and a doubling down on the previous night's criticism of Obama.

Romney was pressed about whether he would have made his Tuesday night statement if he'd had complete information about the situation in Benghazi.
"I'm not going to take hypotheticals about what would have been known what and so forth," Romney said. "I — we responded last night to the events that happened in Egypt."

But his statement had referenced both countries, referring to "attacks on our diplomatic missions."

In Washington, Republican foreign policy veterans called Romney's initial statement premature and rushed, with limited facts and an incomplete understanding of what was happening in Egypt and Libya. Romney's team also was unclear about the timeline of when the Obama administration weighed in.

One Republican official advising Romney's campaign on foreign policy and national security issues painted a picture of a Romney campaign more focused on ensuring Romney's evening statement made it into morning news stories than on waiting for details about what had happened.

This official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid angering Romney's campaign, said that as word of violence spread, campaign aides late Tuesday watched tweets coming out of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo that were criticizing the filmmaker rather than condemning the attackers, and saw an opportunity to criticize Obama.

It wasn't until Wednesday morning, when the U.S. confirmed the death of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, that Romney's team recognized the severity of the situation — and that, the night before, it had opened itself up to criticism for politicizing a diplomatic crisis.

FACT CHECK: Romney Misstates Facts On Attacks : NPR

Romney's poll numbers aren't looking good:

not good at all

**Boon Mee** · 13-09-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Romney Timeline

FACT CHECK: Romney Misstates Facts On Attacks

WASHINGTON (AP) — The gunfire at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, had barely ceased when Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney seriously mischaracterized what had happened in a statement accusing President Barack Obama of "disgraceful" handling of violence there and at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.

"The Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks," Romney said in a statement first emailed to reporters at 10:09 p.m. Eastern time, under the condition it not be published until midnight.

Well, what's wrong with that? Every thing Romney said was true. The entire handling of the situation was disgraceful.

More smoke & mirrors in a feeble attempt to shift focus off Obama's pathetic 'leadership' and on to Romney...

**Boon Mee** · 13-09-2012, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

The typical bullying neocon response to a tragedy before all the facts are in. The have a tendency to knock over a few chairs and throw punches and leave others to clean up after them. Obama was right - Romney tends to shoot first and aim later.

In light of further revelations that the Obama Team are still out to lunch...

Administration officials: Romney was right, that statement from the Cairo embassy was awful.

Back to you, Bert.

**Humbert** · 13-09-2012, 03:05 PM

Romney's blatant politicizing of a tragedy will do nothing but further erode his deteriorating support. What a cowardly stance. It should be obvious to everybody now that this guy is unfit for the presidency. This even tops his moronic bluster about Russia being America's greatest threat.

**Boon Mee** · 13-09-2012, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Romney's blatant politicizing of a tragedy will do nothing but further erode his deteriorating support. What a cowardly stance. It should be obvious to everybody now that this guy is unfit for the presidency. This even tops his moronic bluster about Russia being America's greatest threat.

Well, I guess you don't agree with Sarah Palin either that Obama needs to grow a Big Stick?

Sarah Palin: Libya, Egypt Attacks On American Facilities Show Obama Needs To Grow 'Big Stick'

Heh...that's right, every once an a while I gotta cruise over to the 'Dark Side' and see where y'all get your 'news'. Whew - how can you do it?

**slackula** · 13-09-2012, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

This even tops his moronic bluster about Russia being America's greatest threat.

Something that Pootie-Poot is grateful for!

Putin Thanks Romney for Calling Russia No. 1 Foe - ABC News

Russian President Vladimir Putin said today that Mitt Romney’s characterization of Moscow as the United States’ “number one geopolitical foe” has actually helped Russia. The Russian leader said Romney’s comments strengthened his resolve to oppose NATO’s plan for a missile defense shield in Eastern Europe, a system Russia believes will degrade its nuclear deterrent. The U.S. insists the system is aimed at Iran, not Russia.

Nice one Mitt..

**DrAndy** · 13-09-2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

That's correct, he hasn't been too effective at anything but blaming others for his failings. Can't keep heaping it on Bush for the rest of all time. Obama owns this miserable unemployment rate etc.

AS the Bush admin was to blame, then it is their fault for the rest of time - unless you want to rewrite history

the unemployment rate is all part and parcel of the same mess

**Boon Mee** · 13-09-2012, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

AS the Bush admin was to blame, then it is their fault for the rest of time - unless you want to rewrite history

Big negitivo on that. There comes a time to step up to the plate and be responsible for your own actions. Obama has made the situation much worse. The failed stimulus, green energy bankruptcies, the General Motors bailout that failed - can't sell those Chevy Volts either and on & on. Obama has been an unmigitated disaster.

**attaboy** · 14-09-2012, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by DrAndy

AS the Bush admin was to blame, then it is their fault for the rest of time - unless you want to rewrite history

Big negitivo on that. There comes a time to step up to the plate and be responsible for your own actions. Obama has made the situation much worse. The failed stimulus, green energy bankruptcies, the General Motors bailout that failed - can't sell those Chevy Volts either and on & on. Obama has been an unmigitated disaster.

You are absolutely correct, Boon.

Everyone knows Bush screwed up but how soon on the job does Obama do his job and stop blaming someone else? How many years pass until he owns it?
https://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issu...ml#post1831917

**robuzo** · 14-09-2012, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Humbert

This even tops his moronic bluster about Russia being America's greatest threat.

Something that Pootie-Poot is grateful for!

Putin Thanks Romney for Calling Russia No. 1 Foe - ABC News

Russian President Vladimir Putin said today that Mitt Romney’s characterization of Moscow as the United States’ “number one geopolitical foe” has actually helped Russia. The Russian leader said Romney’s comments strengthened his resolve to oppose NATO’s plan for a missile defense shield in Eastern Europe, a system Russia believes will degrade its nuclear deterrent. The U.S. insists the system is aimed at Iran, not Russia.

Nice one Mitt..

Powell did the best with the Russia BS (Larison at American Conservative):
“Come On, Mitt, Think”: Powell on Romney’s Russia Blunder | The American Conservative
[Powell] gave the example of Romney recently saying that Russia is the “number one geopolitical foe” to the United States.

“Come on Mitt, think,” Powell said. “That isn’t the case.”

Powell doesn’t appreciate that this was supposed to be an example of one of Romney’s “carefully thought-out” positions. The Romney campaign would have us believe that his Russia blunder was an example of what happens when Mitt is thinking. Some of his advisers have made it clear that they aren’t responsible when Romney says things like this.
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Love the way Larison twists the knife that Powell has stuck in the buffoon.

**Humbert** · 14-09-2012, 09:23 AM

Mitt Romney Response To Libya, Egypt Attacks Called 'Irresponsible,' 'Craven,' 'Ham-Handed'

Link

Many members of the media reacted with puzzlement and criticism to Mitt Romney's continuing criticism of the White House response to the deadly attacks in Libya and Egypt.
The Romney campaign drew fire on Wednesday morning for issuing a blistering statement condemning the American embassy in Egypt for speaking against an incendiary anti-Muslim film, even though the embassy made the statement before any attacks had taken place. NBC's Chuck Todd, for instance, called the statement "irresponsible" and a "bad mistake." ABC's Jake Tapper said that Romney's attack "does not stand up to simple chronology."
National Journal's Ron Fournier called Romney's actions "ham-handed" and "inaccurate."
Conservative pundit Erick Ericson, while disagreeing with Todd's response, also warned Romney to be "cautious."
Despite that criticism, Romney continued this line of attack in an appearance on Wednesday morning, saying that the White House had made a "severe miscalculation."
Other reporters were similarly baffled. "The Romney campaign's politicization of the embassy attacks is even worse than I expected," Foreign Policy writer Blake Hounshell tweeted.
Speaking on Fox News, conservative columnist Peggy Noonan was also blunt. "I don't feel that Mr. Romney has been doing himself any favors in the past few hours," she said. “Sometimes when really bad things happen, when hot things happen, cool words or no words is the way to go.”

I think this is the final nail in the coffin for dim Mitt.

**Boon Mee** · 14-09-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

^I thought the quote from Peggy Noonan, the right wing know-it-all, was particulary stinging don't you Boney?

Who can figure that motive where we also have Democrat Kirstin Powers who UNLOADS on Obama and Media After Mideast Embassy Attacks?

Democrat Kirstin Powers blasted this week’s media jihad against Mitt Romney today on America Live with Megyn Kelly. Powers also slammed the Obama Administration for their weak response to the Mideast disaster and murder of our ambassador in Libya.

**Boon Mee** · 14-09-2012, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Romney's blatant politicizing of a tragedy will do nothing but further erode his deteriorating support. What a cowardly stance. It should be obvious to everybody now that this guy is unfit for the presidency. This even tops his moronic bluster about Russia being America's greatest threat.

Talk about cowards, your party of whimps outdoes itself:

Timeline: Obama Admin Took 16 Hours to
Disavow Embassy Apology

That famously predicted 3 a.m. phone call went to voice mail

**Boon Mee** · 14-09-2012, 03:13 PM

Five Facts the Media Are Distorting About Romney's Response to Embassy Attacks

1. Romney was right about the timing of official Obama administration reactions. Yes, the U.S. Embassy in Egypt issued a statement which empathized with the mob before the attacks, but it reiterated its statements after the attacks as well. The White House disavowed those statements--through an unnamed source, and much later on Tuesday, while the State Department issued a similar statement at the same time that failed to condemn the raid.

2. The State Department condemned the Libya attack but not the attack in Egypt. Romney’s critics point out that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did issue a statement on Tuesday night stating that “there is never any justification for violent acts of this kind." That statement did not refer to Egypt at all--only to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya. The only statement on the Egypt attack remained that of the embassy in Cairo.

3. Romney could not have known that the ambassador to Libya was killed. He could not have known because almost no one knew. It is likely that President Obama himself did not know. Yet the media is behaving as if Romney committed some grave act of insensitivity. Both candidate Obama and his predecessor John Kerry exploited the known deaths of U.S. troops to attack George W. Bush without such push-back.

4. Obama, not Romney, broke the mutual pledge not to attack each other on 9/11. Contrary to what some journalists are alleging, Romney studiously avoided criticizing the President on 9/11. By contrast, the Obama campaign sent new surrogate Bill Clinton to Florida to bash Romney and running mate Paul Ryan in a hyper-partisan and false attack. Romney’s statement on the attacks had been embargoed for 12:00 a.m. on 9/12.

5. The Obama administration, not the Romney campaign, bungled its message. When the White House sends a message to reporters that it does not agree with the language used by the U.S. Embassy, but the State Department reiterates very similar language, there is a contradiction that must be explained. Meanwhile, Romney stated clearly what has been always been his foreign policy. Yet he is accused of a “gaffe.”

Romney stays to answer questions. Obama ducks out for Vegas

What a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive, eh?

Back to you, Libs...

**S Landreth** · 14-09-2012, 04:18 PM

The more the American public finds out about the idiot (Dim Mitt) the more they seem to dislike him. These are swing state numbers. Un-fuckin’ believable. And Dim Mitt hasn’t even released his tax returns yet. Just wait till they see those/it.

Florida: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Se..._september.pdf

REGISTERED VOTERS, who would you vote for

Obama 50%
Dim Mitt 42%

Ohio: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Se..._september.pdf

REGISTERED VOTERS, who would you vote for

Obama 50%
Dim Mitt 41%

Virginia: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Se..._september.pdf

REGISTERED VOTERS, who would you vote for

Obama 49%
Dim Mitt 42%

this Dim Mitt is sooooooooooooooooooooo out of touch: Romney: U.S. ‘middle income’ is $200K to $250K per year | The Raw Story

In an interview on Friday morning with George Stephanopoulos for “Good Morning America,” presidential candidate former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) said that he believes that in the U.S., middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 per year.

During the interview Friday that Stephanopoulos asked Romney if he believes that “middle income” in the U.S. is around $100,000 per year.

“No,” Romney replied, “middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less.”

this is kinda of funny,..........Dim Mitt's chance at winning now cast lower than 10%

the debates should be entertaining

**Boon Mee** · 15-09-2012, 09:21 AM

What a Shock!

HuffPo Misreported What Romney Said About “Middle Income.”

I’ve bolded a few inconvenient words. Observe: the HuffPo reports “$200-$250″; the AP story elsewhere says $200K-$250K and less. Add the “and less” and suddenly Romney is saying the same limits as Obama — and the other bolded words make clear.
By the way, this is first in a series of Romney Rumors; it’s become clear that we need to capture these things just as we did with Palin. If you see anything you think needs to be debunked, pass it along.

Indeed. You can’t trust the press as many are now observing, they’re just Democratic operatives/hacks with bylines.

**Cujo** · 15-09-2012, 10:29 PM

Mitt Romney: People earning $250,000 are 'middle income'
Mitt Romney has said that people taking home $250,000 (£154,000) are "middle income", as the Presidential candidate blasted the Federal Reserve's latest attempt to kickstart the economy by printing more money.

Mitt Romney is estimated to be worth $200m Photo: Getty Images
By Andrew Trotman6:50PM BST 14 Sep 2012779 Comments
The Republican nominee was defending his policies on stimulating growth in the US, when he said he wouldn't raise taxes on "middle-income people".
"We can get to a balanced budget without raising taxes on middle income people," Mr Romney told ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who then asked the Massachusetts Governor if he considered someone earning $100,000 as being "middle income".
"No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less," Mr Romney replied.
With the average salary at $39,959, according to the Social Security Administration, the comments are likely to anger an American public grappling with an unemployment rate of 8.1pc.
Mr Romney, who co-founded Bain Capital and is estimated to be worth $200m, said a cornerstone of his efforts to get a "balanced budget" in the US is to get more people to pay tax.

"My tax plan is to encourage investment in growth in America, more jobs, that means more people paying taxes," said Mr Romney, who has come under fire for releasing very little information on how much tax he paid before 2010. "That’s a big component of what allows us to get to a balanced budget."
With the budget deficit in the world's largest economy hitting $1.16 trillion, and a "fiscal cliff" of tax hikes and spending cuts on the horizon, there are fears the US could slip back into recession and also lose its prized AAA credit rating.
On Friday, the White House said the cliff would be "deeply destructive to national security, domestic investments and core government functions".
On Thursday, Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke launched a third round of quantitative easing, pledging to buy an additional $40bn (£25bn) of mortgage-backed securities per month, to aid the recovery.
However, Mr Romney, who faces Barack Obama in the race for the White House, has said the Fed's decision places it in direct opposition to the government, and could actually harm the economy.
"What Bernanke’s doing is saying that what the President’s saying is wrong. The President’s saying the economy’s making progress, coming back. Bernanke’s saying, 'No, it’s not, I’ve got to print more money.'
"I don’t think what Bernanke is doing is going to get the economy going. I think we have to have a leadership in Washington that encourages the private sector. I think printing more money, at this point, comes at a higher cost than the benefit it’s going to create."
Mr Romney also warned that Mr Bernanke, who began a second term as chairman of the Fed in 2010, would be axed from his job if the Republican wins the election on November 6.
"I would like to appoint someone that I had selected. And I would look for someone other than the current incumbent."

Mitt Romney: People earning $250,000 are 'middle income' - Telegraph
Talk about out of touch.

**barbaro** · 15-09-2012, 10:59 PM

^^ S_Landreth,

Thank you for the polling updates.

Those toss-up states are now leaning BO.....

Not looking good for Mitt.

And seriously, he shoudl release those tax returns.

**barbaro** · 15-09-2012, 11:43 PM

Please watch and comment. (I read the article but cannot watch b/c my computer is slow.

I think this is (another) blunder by Romney.

Median income for families is $50K per year. $200K is an amount that few earn, and almost none of the $50K families will get.

So, most are this far at the bottom?

IMO, Middle income for families (hubby, Wife, 1 or 2 kids) is: $110K gross - before all of the taxes.

An article; different source:

BOSTON (AP) — Mitt Romney is promising to reduce taxes on middle-income Americans.

But how does he define "middle-income"? The Republican presidential nominee defined it Friday as income of $200,000 to $250,000 a year and less.

The definition of "middle income" or the "middle class" is politically charged as Romney and President Barack Obama fight to win over working-class voters. Romney would be among the wealthiest presidents, if elected, and Democrats have repeatedly painted him as out of touch with average people.

Obama also has set his definition for "middle class" as families with income of up to $250,000 a year.

Romney's comments came an interview broadcast Friday on ABC's "Good Morning America."

"No one can say my plan is going to raise taxes on middle-income people, because principle number one is (to) keep the burden down on middle-income taxpayers," Romney told host George Stephanopoulos.

"Is $100,000 middle income?" Stephanopoulos asked.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...p_ref=business

**Boon Mee** · 16-09-2012, 05:50 AM

If this is true, we might as well swear Mitt (the leader) in right now.

72% in poll say Obama economic record to be key factor in their vote.

**S Landreth** · 18-09-2012, 05:14 AM

Romney,…………..my job is not to worry about thooooose people.

and Dim Mitt later trying to back out. slow down Mitt, where ya going in such a rush

guy's an asshole and has no chance

**Humbert** · 18-09-2012, 06:08 AM

^What a moment. Let's all give thanks for Romney's gift for putting his foot in his mouth. In one swoop he characterizes half the electorate as free loaders. I thought he was toast last week after his huge foreign policy debacle but this seals the deal.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-17/today-mitt-romney-lost-the-election.html

**Boon Mee** · 18-09-2012, 09:09 AM

"There are 47% of the people who will vote for the President no matter what. Alright, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that they are victims, who believe government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe they are entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing." -- Mitt Romney

Source

Before y'all go and complain re the source, take a look at yourself - Mother Jones?

Can't find fault with Romney's statement, can you? Unless of course you're still so imbued with that Liberal White Guilt Syndrome and feel entitled to be a subject of the Nanny State, eh?

**Lambik** · 18-09-2012, 09:18 AM

^

So, in the U.S.A, 47% of the voters are some kind of scroungers, according to Mr. Romney!

Than indeed :

"The Times They Are a-Changin"

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