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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    This race to the bottom in campaigning ultimately benefits the democrats- they just plain have more ammo. The RW noise machine is desperately trying to find a new swiftboating formula, but to no avail.
    The Thugs have pretty much shot their wad with all the birther, secret Muslim, secret Communist, Saul Alinksy bullshit over the entire first Obama term. As has been pointed out elsewhere, neither campaign is trying to convince fence-sitters anymore and both are trying to mobilize the base, although it is fairly early for that in a presidential campaign.

    The "Romney killed my wife" ad may be somewhat crude- subtlety and nuance don't generally work all that well in US political ads- but it does highlight some important ideological differences, and the Romney campaign spokeswoman's brief bout of honesty was very telling. Both sides are in thrall to big finance, the difference being that one side believes in providing something in way of social safety net. It's a distinction with minor but significant difference.

    Romney coming out and essentially begging for a truce is rather pathetic. Another difference between the paleoconservatives and the current crowd of Fox News Republicans is that the former actually were solid- people like Dole, Hagel, Kemp, and pundits such as Buckley and Buchanan. The current "conservative" crowd are mostly bullies and, like all bullies, cowards at heart.
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    Besides being stoopid, Dim Mitt is also a pussy (stop picking on poor ole me): Romney wants his taxes, business record off table

    Mitt Romney made an unusual suggestion in his interview with Chuck Todd yesterday, which First Read previewed thusly:

    This is business not personal: Romney also said in the interview he would like a pledge (of sorts) with Obama that there be no "personal" attack ads. "[O]ur campaign would be — helped immensely if we had an agreement between both campaigns that we were only going to talk about issues and that attacks based upon — business or family or taxes or things of that nature."

    Where the taxes

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    And besides being a stoopid pussy he’s also heartless. So Dim Mitt is a stoopid heartless pussy: Mitt Romney, Taxer of the Blind

    Willard, old pal, you do know that we all remember stuff, right?

    It's possible that he might actually decide to point out to the country at large that he was governor up here. He will undoubtedly will remind you that he "never raised taxes" during the two-and-a-half years he actually gave a frog's dong about being the governor. This is true. What he did was raise fees on practically everything.

    Including being blind:

    It now costs to be blind in Massachusetts. The state's approximately 35,000 blind and legally blind residents must now pay $10 annually for a certificate of blindness and $15 every four years for a blind identification card. Without the formerly-free documents, blind people cannot take advantage of tax abatements, affordable housing programs, health care services, transportation discounts and other benefits. ... The fees originated in February, in Gov. Mitt Romney's budget proposal for fiscal 2004.
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    So Romney is a felon, a racist, a tax cheat and a murderer according to Barack Obama surrogates and President Obama has said he will not apologize for what his surrogates have said.


    So what is the purpose of campaign strategy like this? What is it supposed to appeal to in people? What part of a voter’s brain is supposedly stimulated? That part which harbors bigotry and hatred?

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    A classic case of the Quacks getting a dose of their own medicine- surprise surprise, they're allergic to it.
    The same CU decision which the right so fervently supported is now working to the Dem's benefit. double classic. I'm rather enjoying this, from the outer edges of the peanut gallery. Hey bubba- that Citizens United decision was a two edged sword y'know.

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    ^Yes, it is pretty damned hilarious. "So what is the purpose of campaign strategy like this. . . bigotry and hatred?" Ooooh, you guys are so meeeean! Not embarrassed to be a crybaby, it's really precious- look into your hearts, liberals!* Being accused of bigotry by a Thug is like being accused of parasitism by a tapeworm.

    *Guess the Cohen Bros movie.

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    The difference is this is Obama's official campaign strategy. This isn't Donald Trump or some kook birther clogging the court system with lawsuits. This is coming from the President.

    The POTUS is appealing to people's hatred and bigotry.

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    ^^^ Oh, I see- so when a Democrat SuperPAC does it, it is "official campaign strategy". Right.
    Turns out, the rethugs aren't such good bare knuckle boxers after all- they just had no competition. Thanks, CU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    The difference is this is Obama's official campaign strategy. This isn't Donald Trump or some kook birther clogging the court system with lawsuits. This is coming from the President.

    The POTUS is appealing to people's hatred and bigotry.
    Indeed, these people will stop at nothing!

    The far left is now trying to tie Mitt Rommey to El Salvador death squads.


    In 1983, Bill Bain asked Mitt Romney to launch Bain Capital, a private equity offshoot of the successful consulting firm Bain & Company. After some initial reluctance, Romney agreed. The new job came with a stipulation: Romney couldn’t raise money from any current clients, Bain said, because if the private equity venture failed, he didn’t want it taking the consulting firm down with it.
    When Romney struggled to raise funds from other traditional sources, he and his partners started thinking outside the box. Bain executive Harry Strachan suggested that Romney meet with a group of Central American oligarchs who were looking for new investment vehicles as turmoil engulfed their region.
    Romney was worried that the oligarchs might be tied to “illegal drug money, right-wing death squads, or left-wing terrorism,” Strachan later told a Boston Globe reporter, as quoted in the 2012 book “The Real Romney.” But, pressed for capital, Romney pushed his concerns aside and flew to Miami in mid-1984 to meet with the Salvadorans at a local bank…


    The far left media organization Democracy Now also jumped on the outrageous allegations.
    Also Bad Blue:
    Republican candidate Mitt Romney continues to face scrutiny over his record at the private equity firm, Bain Capital. The latest controversy to surround Bain concerns how Romney helped found the company with investments from Central American elites linked to death squads in El Salvador. After initially struggling to find investors, Romney traveled to Miami in 1983 to win pledges of $9 million, 40 percent of Bain’s start-up money. Some investors had extensive ties to the death squads responsible for the vast majority of the tens of thousands of deaths in El Salvador during the 1980s. The investors include the Salaverria family, whom the former U.S. ambassador to El Salvador, Robert White, has previously accused of directly funding the Salvadoran paramilitaries. In his memoir, former Bain executive Harry Strachan writes that Romney pushed aside his own misgivings about the investors to accept their backing. Strachan writes: “These Latin American friends have loyally rolled over investments in succeeding funds, actively participated in Bain Capital’s May investor meetings, and are still today one of the largest investor groups in Bain Capital.”

    One outrageous lie after another. They must figure that if they throw enough shit against the barn door, some will stick, eh?
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    ^^Bill Burton head of Priorities USA is teh former White House asst press sec for the Obama admin. Recognize the seal?


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    Beside Stephanie Cutter, who serves as deputy campaign manager for President Barack Obama's 2012 reelection campaign, is the one who called Romney a felon. Obama said he wasn't going to apologize for it.

    Louise Lucas part of Obama's Truth Team called Romney a racist. No apology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    The difference is this is Obama's official campaign strategy. This isn't Donald Trump or some kook birther clogging the court system with lawsuits. This is coming from the President.

    The POTUS is appealing to people's hatred and bigotry.
    Indeed, these people will stop at nothing!

    The far left is now trying to tie Mitt Rommey to El Salvador death squads.

    In 1983, Bill Bain asked Mitt Romney to launch Bain Capital, a private equity offshoot of the successful consulting firm Bain & Company. After some initial reluctance, Romney agreed. The new job came with a stipulation: Romney couldn’t raise money from any current clients, Bain said, because if the private equity venture failed, he didn’t want it taking the consulting firm down with it.
    When Romney struggled to raise funds from other traditional sources, he and his partners started thinking outside the box. Bain executive Harry Strachan suggested that Romney meet with a group of Central American oligarchs who were looking for new investment vehicles as turmoil engulfed their region.
    Romney was worried that the oligarchs might be tied to “illegal drug money, right-wing death squads, or left-wing terrorism,” Strachan later told a Boston Globe reporter, as quoted in the 2012 book “The Real Romney.” But, pressed for capital, Romney pushed his concerns aside and flew to Miami in mid-1984 to meet with the Salvadorans at a local bank…


    The far left media organization Democracy Now also jumped on the outrageous allegations.
    Also Bad Blue:
    Republican candidate Mitt Romney continues to face scrutiny over his record at the private equity firm, Bain Capital. The latest controversy to surround Bain concerns how Romney helped found the company with investments from Central American elites linked to death squads in El Salvador. After initially struggling to find investors, Romney traveled to Miami in 1983 to win pledges of $9 million, 40 percent of Bain’s start-up money. Some investors had extensive ties to the death squads responsible for the vast majority of the tens of thousands of deaths in El Salvador during the 1980s. The investors include the Salaverria family, whom the former U.S. ambassador to El Salvador, Robert White, has previously accused of directly funding the Salvadoran paramilitaries. In his memoir, former Bain executive Harry Strachan writes that Romney pushed aside his own misgivings about the investors to accept their backing. Strachan writes: “These Latin American friends have loyally rolled over investments in succeeding funds, actively participated in Bain Capital’s May investor meetings, and are still today one of the largest investor groups in Bain Capital.”

    One outrageous lie after another. They must figure that if they throw enough shit against the barn door, some will stick, eh?
    Which former Obama White House official is writing that blog?

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    The Smell of Fear.

    Nice blokes, those Nicaraguan Contra's. Real nice.

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    that didn't take long. some truth about Dim Mitt and his running mate


    Paul Ryan is the mastermind behind the extreme GOP budget plan. It's a plan Mitt Romney endorses.

    But what does that budget mean for America? The GOP budget plan hurts seniors, it hurts middle-class families, and it hurts students. All to pay for tax cuts for those at the top..

    Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan: back to the failed top-down policies that crashed our economy.

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    Desperate: Obama Widens Lead Over Romney

    If the 2012 election for United States President were held today and the following were candidates for whom would you vote?

    Obama 46%
    Dim Mitt 39%

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    and they are trying to tell these people that the USA is best helped by taking over $2,000 from the wallets of the middle class,
    This is the number computed by the much heralded so-called non partisan The Tax Policy Center?

    Non Partisan says who? George Stephanopoulos ?

    The Tax Policy Center - Independent analyses of current and emerging tax policy issues from The Urban Institute and The Brookings Institution.


    The Urban Institute - a Washington, D.C.-based think tank established in 1968 by the Lyndon B. Johnson administration.

    The Brookings Institute - a public policy organization based in Washington, D.C.. In 1977, Time Magazine described it as the "nation's pre-eminent liberal think tank". Some liberals argue that despite its left-of-center reputation, Brookings foreign policy scholars were overly supportive of Bush administration policies abroad.







    Non partisan. I guess if no one challenges it then it's true because someone says so.

    The Tax Policy Center took Romney's basic outline. An outline and they filled it in in a way that they got the outcome they were looking for. What was that number? $2000 to be borne by the middle class. That suits the scenario and that's what showed up after they crunched the numbers they chose with the formula of reductions and deductions they chose to fill in Romney's outline with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    that didn't take long. some truth about Dim Mitt and his running mate

    Paul Ryan is the mastermind behind the extreme GOP budget plan. It's a plan Mitt Romney endorses.
    "Mastermind"? Oh, SL. . .Obama has already shredded the Ryan (R-Dickens) "plan" for what it is- "thinly veiled social Darwinism."

    What the selection does is divide the country quite neatly. Americans can no longer say they don't have a choice between two distinctly different visions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    that didn't take long. some truth about Dim Mitt and his running mate

    Paul Ryan is the mastermind behind the extreme GOP budget plan. It's a plan Mitt Romney endorses.
    "Mastermind"? Oh, SL. . .Obama has already shredded the Ryan (R-Dickens) "plan" for what it is- "thinly veiled social Darwinism."

    What the selection does is divide the country quite neatly. Americans can no longer say they don't have a choice between two distinctly different visions.
    You’re right and I do expect the number below (circled in red) to drop, soon. From this poll released yesterday: Obama Widens Lead Over Romney


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    Interesting take from David Frum, who is normally considered a conservative commentator but by today's Republican Party standards is practically a Trotskyite:
    Why Ryan? - The Daily Beast
    "Ryan has been pushed forward by people who do not much like or respect Mitt Romney, precisely with a view to constraining and controlling a Romney presidency. By acceding to that pressure—for whichever of the five reasons above, or for some sixth or seventh reason—Romney has transformed a campaign about jobs and growth into a campaign about entitlements and Medicare. Romney will now have to spend the next months explaining how and why shrinking Medicare after 2023 will create prosperity in 2013. Economic conditions are so tough—the Obama reelection proposition is so weak—that Romney may win anyway. But wow, the job just got harder.

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    Things that make you go hmmm...


    Huge crowds line Manassas streets for Romney-Ryan.


    “Susan Ferrechio, The Washington Examiner’s crack congressional reporter traveling with the Romney-Ryan press bus troupe today, offers a photo of the crowds lining the streets of Manassas, Virginia, as the political caravan makes it way through downtown. How to explain such crowds if Obama is leading in Virginia, one of the key swing states? Either the Romney advance team did a phenomenal job of generating interest before today, or there is a continuing surge in electoral momentum for insurgent change-agent candidates like that which powered the Republican sweep of the 2010 races.”

    Sure hope the party of Deficits & Deceit continue to be cocky, eh?

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    I wouldn't have thought it possible, but the importance of Obama winning just increased. I felt the same about McCain losing after he picked Palin. I don't hate McCain as much as he probably deserves. Romney has proven himself rather, shall we say, flexible in his viewpoints over the years, which while it may mark him as dishonest also suggests he is no ideologue. Ryan is an ideologue. The worst kind, really, because he is not entirely stupid.

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    Yes indeed, the importance of Romney/Ryan leading the country out from the depths of depression cannot be overemphasized. The current government policy isn't working and needs an overhaul. Who better to do it that than Romney who made his name as a turnaround artist. And Ryan with his budget skills. Don't fret re Grandma and her Medicad - under Ryan's plan, she just might have some although thru Obama, it's disappearing fast...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    The worst kind, really.
    Fiscal discipline really is a terrifying concept for the steely eyed big government spenders.

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    Romney seems to be another social predator, ala GW Bush

    These kind of characters want to turn America into Europe 19th Century for their achievement

    a return to the source, trait of a self-destructing European elite

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    This is cropping up to be a real blood fest of a campaign. I'll be watching it as close as a Thai looking at a decapitated motorsi driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
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    The worst kind, really.
    Fiscal discipline really is a terrifying concept for the steely eyed big government spenders.
    Those big spenders like Reagan and the Bush clowns? They were steely eyed hawks of a big spending order. Truly the clowns that got us into this deficit to start with. Trickle down/supply side/voodoo economics has been proven to be the most colossal economic failure in the history of America. The transfer of wealth to the upper crust under these policies has been accelerated to unprecedented levels. Success by the yard marker of the few. A few that many are enslaved and controlled by.

    In case you missed it...



    To rehash...

    https://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issu...ml#post2090681

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Fiscal discipline really is a terrifying concept for the steely eyed big government spenders.
    And Ryan apparently..


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