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    Quote Originally Posted by Submaniac View Post
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    and if your using the comically incorrect calculations, yes it's been a month
    Cool... Even a stopped clock is right twice per day!

    Anyway, again, well done. You're a better man than I! I'm still at the stage of finding 'convenient' excuses not to quite.
    Have you tried the electronic cigarettes? Having used them, I am a believer. Really there is no link between just nicotine and cancer. The e-cigs feel nearly the same, and give the nicotine without the tar and other crap.

    I mean just try it. Even if you don't want to fully quit, try puffing on the e-cigs every now and then, and it will at least help you cut down on regular cigs. I just think it will help.
    I saw above that you quit about 18 days ago.
    That means that your physical nicotine adiction is behind you.
    Even though the physical adiction is over, the psychological adiction is still there,
    and will be for a long time. And it is not a piece of cake to beat it, as we know.

    If I remember correctly, when you stop smoking the nicotine/poison level
    in the bloodstream stays almost the same (goes down a little bit) for
    about 8 to 12 days (individual differences) then during a period of
    8-12 hours the nicotine/poison level is abruptly reduced to a very low percentage.
    From then on, the body is "cured" of smoking (the physical adiction is gone) the rest is in the head, which doesn't mean it will be easy.

    Now, eating nic. gum, using nic. plasters using electric fags etc will
    upheld a significant nic. level in the bloodstream.
    So you will have to continue to fight both body and brain when the lust is there.

    Dunno, but to me an important part of quit smoking is to stop intake of nic.

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    Malicious, that's great ! Put it behind you, mate. You'll feel heaps better.
    My father was a top sportsman when young, but died at 62 from a heart attack brought on by smoking. He rationalized smoking till the day he died.
    Koojo's advice is very good. Also, do something to replace the habit. And reward yourself with nice things.....it's a big, big step in the right direction.


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    You got no facts to back up yer contention that tobacco smoke, second hand or otherwise is a major pollutant of the atmosphere.
    He didn't say that. He only spoke about peoples' immediate breathing space. This is a prime example of how you misquote people.
    You did misquote, ENT. Read your own words. He did not contend that that tobacco smoke, second hand or otherwise, is a major pollutant of the atmosphere. Stop trying to twist other peoples' words.

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    Pseudolus post to DrAndy's comments.
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    ^^^Why is this turning into a "smokers are all cnuts" thread now then?

    No fucking need for it at all, and yet again, you come across as someone who has never smoked.

    You have no idea that the stuff you post actually put people off trying to quit for reasons that you clearly have no understanding about because you are not and never have been a smoker. So what is the point? You want less smokers in the world, then stop fucking up the thread that is trying to help people to stop.
    Well put.

    Got to add something about using lobelia to quit.

    Occasional heartburn does occur with using the herb, usually the next day, other than that and a some weight gain, I can't report any negative side effects.

    On the plus side, my tolerance for alcohol is much lower than it's ever been, even though I use lobelia less frequently by the day.

    Still no problems being around other smokers, just think it looks strange when they do smoke, these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malicious View Post
    1st time in 3 decades I've gone 48 hours without a cigarette, cold turkey
    Good job and well done.Two thirds of the way there to break the chemical addiction. Easy all the way, and laugh at the pang trying to snare you back into the trap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    you're over what most people say is the worst part, the physical addiction.
    but but that is what I posted several times and you were just rude and acted like an ignorant fool

    anyway, I am glad you managed to understand in the end, well done

    however, I don't agree that it is the "worst part" as the mental addiction is there for life and can sneak up on you at any time, any little trigger can have you reaching for a ciggie

    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Got to add something about using lobelia to quit. Occasional heartburn does occur with using the herb, usually the next day, other than that and a some weight gain, I can't report any negative side effects.
    do you think your weight gain has something to do with Lobelia?

    or the heartburn?
    I have reported your post

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    You're a source of motivation sub maniac. Well done.

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    ^^ It could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    You're a source of motivation sub maniac. Well done.
    Is he motivating you to be a non smoker yet? Hope so and good luck.

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    This is quite a revelation. That's since 1983 !

    Quote Originally Posted by Malicious View Post
    1st time in 3 decades I've gone 48 hours without a cigarette, cold turkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    ^^ It could be.
    Occasional heartburn does occur with using the herb, usually the next day, other than that and a some weight gain, I can't report any negative side effects.
    so now "it could be" as opposed to stating it categorically

    so it "could be" you over-eating to make up for no ciggie in your mouth, a common phenonemon observed in many quitters

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
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    ^^ It could be.
    Occasional heartburn does occur with using the herb, usually the next day, other than that and a some weight gain, I can't report any negative side effects.
    so now "it could be" as opposed to stating it categorically

    so it "could be" you over-eating to make up for no ciggie in your mouth, a common phenonemon observed in many quitters
    the over eating is because withdrawal symptoms of nicotine feels like being a little hungry. Not really hungry, just a little, which results in snacking and grazing behaviour. Nothing to do with having a cigarette in the mouth.

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    In fact I'm not over-eating.

    It's as Moonraker said, he felt a little bloated when using Champix which contains lobelia.

    The feeling is similar, as though I've gained some weight.

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    ^ enough of the lobelia promotions already. Glad it's working for you but there is no need to self justify it to the point where it is mentioned in every post lol

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    No more self justification than mentioning e-cigs or cold-turkey.

    It's just one of the side effects of lobeline, one of the ingredients of Champix.
    Last edited by ENT; 15-02-2013 at 01:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
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    You're a source of motivation sub maniac. Well done.
    Is he motivating you to be a non smoker yet? Hope so and good luck.
    Heck yeah bro' ... 18 days without a smoke means he's kicking my ass. I feel like I'm getting there ... 2 weeks tomorrow without having my first cig of the day until after work. Small progress I know but better than nothing.

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    You're making the start to quitting mate.
    That's how I cut down, a bit at a time, and not having that key smoke of the day(mine was the first smoke in the morning with a coffee or one in the evening before sleeping) breaks the back of the habit down to a manageable size.

    It took me months of reducing until I decided to quit one morning, so don't knock yourself for doing it slowly, just do it, reduce and quit.

    Tomorrow is the end of my eighth week without tobacco, and zero craving for it now, so no need for lobelia to handle the urge any more.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
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    You're a source of motivation sub maniac. Well done.
    Is he motivating you to be a non smoker yet? Hope so and good luck.
    Heck yeah bro' ... 18 days without a smoke means he's kicking my ass. I feel like I'm getting there ... 2 weeks tomorrow without having my first cig of the day until after work. Small progress I know but better than nothing.

    Good job! Hopefully one day you will just not bother with the evening smoke and that will be that Well done

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    and a some weight gain,



    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    as though I've gained some weight.

    you had already posted that you have gained weight, not as if



    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    the over eating is because withdrawal symptoms of nicotine feels like being a little hungry
    you may be right; nicotine is an appetite suppressant so you may feel hungrier without it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Heck yeah bro' ... 18 days without a smoke means he's kicking my ass. I feel like I'm getting there ... 2 weeks tomorrow without having my first cig of the day until after work. Small progress I know but better than nothing.
    as long as you can keep to that regime and not fall back into your old habits

    then you will have to delay that first smoke of the day until....when?

    after dinner?

    and then?

    STOP

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    ^^^^ So what?

    Lobelia acts as if it were tobacco, too, by suppressing appetite. I've certainly not got the munchies or eating any more than I would normally, so the small weight gain/belly distension I've noticed can't be attributed to more calories.

    The apparent weight gain or reported bloating while using Chantix/Champix or lobelia might be more directly related to water retention, one reported side effect.

    So small doses of lobelia are recommended, as higher doses (overdose) can lead to a range of uncomfortable side effects

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    This is quite a revelation. That's since 1983 !

    Quote Originally Posted by Malicious View Post
    1st time in 3 decades I've gone 48 hours without a cigarette, cold turkey
    Make that 4 decades, I started at 13 or 14.

    Some very encouraging comments on here, thanks guys, you rock.

    I'm over the difficult stage now. Next step after a week or so will be some light training to get my lungs and heart working again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malicious
    I'm over the difficult stage now.
    getting your body rid of the toxics is difficult, so well done

    now you have to be on your guard all the time, but especially in "trigger" situations, times when you would normally have a ciggie

    don't even consider having "just the one" as that could put you straight back on the slippery slope to addiction

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malicious
    I'm over the difficult stage now.
    getting your body rid of the toxics is difficult, so well done

    now you have to be on your guard all the time, but especially in "trigger" situations, times when you would normally have a ciggie

    don't even consider having "just the one" as that could put you straight back on the slippery slope to addiction
    Thanks bro, Trigger situations like beers after work, that's going to be tough, real tough especially when 5 parts pissed. Stayed off the beers last night, I don't want to smoke again.

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    I'm seeding Alan Carr's Quit Smoking PDF, if anyone wants it. It took me a week to get it, I think the 6 seeders were all on dial up

    http://kat.ph/alan-carrs-easy-way-to...-t4151582.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malicious View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    This is quite a revelation. That's since 1983 !

    Quote Originally Posted by Malicious View Post
    1st time in 3 decades I've gone 48 hours without a cigarette, cold turkey
    Make that 4 decades, I started at 13 or 14.

    Some very encouraging comments on here, thanks guys, you rock.

    I'm over the difficult stage now. Next step after a week or so will be some light training to get my lungs and heart working again.
    Well done, well done indeed! Keep it up. You're over the "hump".

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