Thread: 1st time over a decade I have gone 24 hours without a cigarette

Originally Posted by Submaniac

It's ok. If first you don't succeed try again. Do me a favor. Get some e-cigs. Next time you try to stop have the e cig available. Before you break down and go to store, puff on e cig first. That should kill the desire. And really the E cigs are cheaper and much much safer.

I've got this idea that if I can get through the day and be asleep by 9:30 in the evening I'll get over the one day hump.

Originally Posted by ENT

Good luck mate, don'y give in, even if you backslide, that's just part of adjusting, so QUIT!

Giving it a go ... reading this thread and the posters talking about quitting made me think, "Fukc it ... give it a shot" ...

Appreciate all the advice and encouragement.

just fuking STOP

yes, it is difficult but not that bad

Just think, that stinking drug is controlling you, break it

Yes sir, Dr Andy, sir! Ain't giving up yet ...

Count to 60 when you get the urge.

You have to make a conscious effort to do this for the first 3 or 4 days.

After that, auto-pilot starts to kick-in and you'll find yourself doing it subconsciously and quite often you don't need to reach 60 for the urge to have completely disappeared.

Originally Posted by ENT

What about the coughing phase many ex-smokers have reported? Are you going through that?

Coughed a lot less than I did whilst smoking. White spit coming up with dark speckling of tar basically. I spat it into a tissue as each time you see it, you realise that smoking is not the best idea in the world.

@Storekeeper - Just quit. Throw away the lighters and ash trays and all the other stuff. You can last on a plane for 12 hours so it won't kill you not smoking lol

Good luck and enjoy being a non smoker.

Makes you wonder why you were so stupid as to smoke for so long, or even not quit years earlier

that has all been known since the 60's

Storekeeper, to echo Psedolus' words, just quit, if you can handle a 12 hour non-smoking plane ride, you can do a that on the ground and then sleep. Wake up walk around have some breakfast.
By then it'll be 24 hours without a cig. Imagine, a whole day smoke free!

One more day without and the physical addiction will be over!

Do it man!..You can!

The other bit mate, put all the smoking paraphernalia you have into a plastic bag, tie it up and put it outside your house.
Say goodbye to it. It don;t live with you no more.

OK?

When you go out, don't put cigs etc in your pocket, just go out without them.

It won't take long, you'll decide one morning, "Now!" and you'll QUIT and never smoke again.

Originally Posted by crocman

Been twenty years off the booze and two years off the smokes.Guess which was the hardest to stop and is the hardest to stay stopped.

There is not a moment goes by that I wouldn't rip your bloody arm off for a smoke,but then I tell myself that I wouldn't enjoy it anyway.And that is true,I wouldn't enjoy it.

Off I went to the Doctors and got some Champix.The first two months were going alright but I started to head to a deep dark place at the start of the third month which was pretty scary so I ditched the pills and carried on.
!

Good to hear your story too Crocman.

Champix has lobeline in it, along with the anti-depressant varenicline tartrate which is likely the stuff that gives the unpleasant side effects.

Haven't hit that third month yet, but so far 50 days later I'm feeling on top of the world.

Partly because I'm not smoking and the effect of no nicotine on my constitution, but partly because of the increased lung capacity, I'm livelier, fitter and mentally sharper than before.

I'll be using lobelia whenever I feel the need, but normally I don't use it now, not on a daily basis at all. I had a chew of leaf this evening and the day before yesterday, and drinking only a little now, no more regular dink of an evening and so on.

I've got absolutely no desire to smoke at all, and others smoking around me is not the slightest problem, the smell doesn't affect me negatively, just no reaction to tobacco.

Cheers.

Just quitting with no other crutches seems to be the best idea. The side effect of cold turkey does not have "death" in the list.

Side effects of lobelia

Call your health care practitioner if you experience any of these possible side effects of lobelia:

coughing
dizziness
fluid retention
nausea and vomiting (with higher doses)
palpitations
seizures
severe heartburn
stomach pain
sweating
tremors
Lobelia also may cause:

death (from respiratory depression and respiratory muscle paralysis)
increased blood pressure
respiratory slowing (with high doses) or stimulation (with low doses)
slow pulse

You can of course pick out the most negative press report on lobelia, from a pharmaceutical company who's main interest is in suppressing its free use.

That's a pity, because if you read further than that piece of Big Pharma bullshit you'll find that the so called "poisonous" effects of taking lobelia involve doses large enough to make you vomit, about a handfull of dry leaf at once,

So what's your interest in rubbishing its use Pseudo?

PS. Where's the reference to your above quote?

That is why I posted the information I did on Lobelia. Herbs can sometimes contain quite powerful drugs, and you also need to be _very_ careful about the interaction with any other medicine you may be taking. A chemist once warned me about this.

Pseudolus is not rubbishing it's use.....he's just being sensible and careful.

LOBELIA MAY HELP YOU STOP SMOKING

Not rubbishing it. Just can not understand why nearly every post you make mentions the stuff though. It's almost as if you have an addiction to that now lol

I don't think it matters how you quit as long as you do. Lobelia is stacks better than nicotine replacement treatments because with those you are not beating the addiction but instead changing the delivery method. Sure it might be more healthy to have pure nicotine as opposed to a big load of chemicals from a smoke, but the down side it that if you run out of the patches etc then most people smoke again.

Good luck to all who does it. I'm through the other side now and just feel like a non smoker.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

LOBELIA MAY HELP YOU STOP SMOKING

Not rubbishing it. Just can not understand why nearly every post you make mentions the stuff though. It's almost as if you have an addiction to that now lol

I don't think it matters how you quit as long as you do. Lobelia is stacks better than nicotine replacement treatments because with those you are not beating the addiction but instead changing the delivery method. Sure it might be more healthy to have pure nicotine as opposed to a big load of chemicals from a smoke, but the down side it that if you run out of the patches etc then most people smoke again.

Good luck to all who does it. I'm through the other side now and just feel like a non smoker.

Good on ya mate, glad you're through "to the other side" as you say.

To each his own way, you did it, I did it,....fwk the begrudgers!

To the rest of you. keep at it, QUIT!

All power to you, good luck.

Originally Posted by ENT

To the rest of you. keep at it, QUIT!

quitting is not something you keep at

It is a momentary action, not something that can be spread over time

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by ENT

To the rest of you. keep at it, QUIT!

quitting is not something you keep at

It is a momentary action, not something that can be spread over time

Not so sure about that doc.I remember quitting several times before I was successful.

I just thought of something a couple of days ago but didn't post it. It's regarding quitting cold turkey. We always hear stories of people who are put on strong prescription drugs for many condidtions, some real and some just created by the drug companies to sell more drugs.

With most prescription drugs, especially ones that are taken over a long period, if the patient wants to quit, they are told to not stop the drugs suddenly, but to wane down their dosage. This is because the shock that the body goes through has many dangerous symptoms.

The addictive substances in tobacco should be considered in the same category. I can speak from experience that trying to quit cold turkey (7 or 8 times) never worked for me. I do know a few, and only a few people who were successful with the cold turkey method, but I think most people aren't.

Thanks for that I agree with you, so does my doctor.

According to him, if my father had only cut down to a couple of cigs a day, he'd still be alive.
My grandfather also died suddenly when he was forced to stop smoking his pipe at 92 yoa.

I'm using lobelia as it hits the same receptors as tobacco does, after cutting down over a few months. I don't feel uncomfortable or tense about it, in fact I feel quite relaxed, so I agree, cut down first, then quit, and use lobelia if you have to, it's pleasant and effective and not addictive.

Originally Posted by crocman

Not so sure about that doc.I remember quitting several times before I was successful.

so you didn't quit until the end

Originally Posted by natalie8

With most prescription drugs, especially ones that are taken over a long period, if the patient wants to quit, they are told to not stop the drugs suddenly, but to wane down their dosage. This is because the shock that the body goes through has many dangerous symptoms.

I don't think that would apply to nicotine, but I am sure somebody will have an apocryphal tale to tell

Seriously Ent you sound like an INfomercial. Are you selling the stuff in Thailand?

Oh, and I do not believe for a second that quitting smoking is dangerous and will kill you. I wonder who owns the NIcorrette type of devices? Bir Pharma per chance? They want to tell you quitting is a night mare; they use the phrase Cold Turkey to make it sound as bad as heroine. The reason people are not able to stop with no devices to help them is because they actually do not want to.

The withdrawals feeling is like being a little peckish. That is it. Your brain tries to wrap you up in circles the more you think about it as it did with Storekeeper, but that's because he was cutting down and going all shift without smoking and then rewarding his body and mind with a smoke later. So the longer he stayed off them, his head was still looking forward to a smoke; expecting it to come and eventually he rewarded it.

It's easy to quit as long as you want to. Just stop obsessing about it and if you need to think about smoking, think about how much better life is as a non smoker.

I've been using all sorts of herbs most of my life and lobelia happened at the right time for me, so I used it and found it very effective for various reasons, as do many others who've used it.

No, I don't sell it and Big Pharma has been using it for a long time.

Quitting anything suddenly can have an adverse effect on a person, not necessarily, but it's a possibility, which is why people are advised to consult with a doctor before starting or stopping medications, or even when quitting alcohol.

Type A personalities can be adversely affected, so I'm told, when having to suddenly withdraw from drugs etc, or radically change their life-style suddenly. It depends on the person's make up.

That was the case with my grandfather and father and possibly me, so I reduced over several months before quitting. It was stress that killed them, according to my doctor.

You might have a totally different constitution and personality make up from me, so your method of quitting works for you, and I wouldn't try to change your approach to quitting, if it works.

Just saying, lobelia works, it's in Champix, but I haven't heard of its use in any other smoke-cessation medication.

I don't get peckish with lobelia, I have put on a little weight, maybe what Moonraker described as feeling bloated when he was on Champix.

The urge or craving or even thinking about a smoke doesn't happen at all for me, just relaxed and calm. I feel good.

Where I started with a small dose several times a day whenever I felt the urge to smoke, now that urge isn't there normally, so I only take a little piece of lobelia maybe once every couple of days now. I definitely don't crave for it nor tobacco, and can stand the smell of tobacco around me, but don't like the smell of ashtrays or stale toibacco breath, yet can be around smokers while having a beer at the pub, so it's all pretty stress free so far.

It's a day by day thing really, and I expect that I won't smoke again, ever.

When I was cutting down, any time I felt like a smoke, I'd say "Later", and sure enough, I was able to postpone smoking until later, so reducing the amount I smoked, until in the end I could go most of the day without a smoke, just a few puffs of the pipe in the morning and again in the evening, until one morning I stopped, after starting on lobelia.

Now that was my way.