1st time over a decade I have gone 24 hours without a cigarette

**Submaniac** · 28-01-2013, 11:39 AM

Ok I have accomplished over 24 hours without a cigarette. First time i quit was after i had gallbladder surgery. i was unable to get out of the hospital bed and, well, being on demoral (synthetic morphine) helped cut the cravings. Right now taking chantix (champix) nicotine gum, and electronic cigarettes. But the first 24 hours sucks the most and I just wanted to get throught the first 24 hours, and after that it should get better. Believe me life is sucking right now but I made my first small step.

**aging one** · 28-01-2013, 11:41 AM

congratulations mate, now just keep it up

**Submaniac** · 28-01-2013, 11:47 AM

Thank you and I am indeed trying so very hard.

**pseudolus** · 28-01-2013, 12:02 PM

Good work mate - just remember that the cravings are not that bad in reality; after all, even when you do not anaesthetize yourself with Laos Khao before bed time, you don't wake up every hour gasping for a smoke. Just feels like being a little hungry that's all.

Good luck!

**terry57** · 28-01-2013, 12:05 PM

Onya mate, don't give up, you must give up that life sapping habit if you want to not die early.

Government should ban the filthy things, even though I still enjoy the odd ciggy when I'm having a beer and some one's got a packet of roll ups.

Hate those tailor mades though, taste like shit.

**Submaniac** · 28-01-2013, 12:10 PM

Thanks for the encouragement. And yes I've been realizing it has been sucking the life out of me.

Hey pseudolus, you gonna go on the wagon and quit with me? Unless you've already beat me to it and quit first?

**The Fresh Prince** · 28-01-2013, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Submaniac

Right now taking chantix (champix) nicotine gum, and electronic cigarettes.

That's just replacing your nicotine source.

Get yourself Alan Carrs 'The Easy Way To Stop Smoking' book. It's very good.

Or the audio book

The Easy Way (Easyway) To Stop Smoking - Allen Carr (download torrent) - TPB

or the movie. Sorry I can't find the torrent.

**Dillinger** · 28-01-2013, 12:37 PM

The first days easy, watch the next 3 weeks, when your mind starts telling you "go on have one who wants to live forever anyway". remember how great they taste with a beer or the first one with a coffee in the morning.

Good Luck

Read Allan Cars book if you want to know how to get over the mental side of it.

**Dillinger** · 28-01-2013, 12:38 PM

^^ Wow, great minds and all that

**The Fresh Prince** · 28-01-2013, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dillinger

The first days easy, watch the next 3 weeks,

Nah, just the first 72 hours unless your a pussy!

**Dillinger** · 28-01-2013, 12:41 PM

Ive just lit one up now, tastes pretty good.

If they werent so friggin cheap here I would give up.

**withnallstoke** · 28-01-2013, 12:45 PM

**pseudolus** · 28-01-2013, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Submaniac

Thanks for the encouragement. And yes I've been realizing it has been sucking the life out of me.

Hey pseudolus, you gonna go on the wagon and quit with me? Unless you've already beat me to it and quit first?

I managed 2 days last week and then got pissed. I know the score. just need to stop putting the bloody things in my mouth - it is that easy. Will try again tomorrow and perhaps thank Slap for opening this support group lol

**Cujo** · 28-01-2013, 01:13 PM

Forget about the substitutes, the gum and the electronic cigs.
Chuck them away. You'll be a bag of nerves for the first three days but just keep in mind that you have made the decision and it's final, that's it, you're done with that shit.
it's battle between you and the addiction.
Everytime something prods you to reach for a smoke, remember it's the addiction doing that, deny it it's filthy pleasure.
You're in charge of the show.

**flashbang** · 28-01-2013, 01:14 PM

I've tried to quit twice this month, both times the first 3 days were easy but the 4th day is a bitch with half hour long intense cravings. Frigging nearly impossible.

Smoking is good for your mental health. Parkinsons, alzheimers, scizophernia and anxiety.

I was in hospital a few months back sitting next to this old lady, looked about 100, in for a chest infection with a nasty cough, smoked all her life, but fuck me she was sharp as a tack. IMO it was the tobacco that kept her brain in such good condition but sadly not her face.

**Submaniac** · 28-01-2013, 01:22 PM

An yea know what you mean about the support group. Knowing that other people at suffering and going brought hell helps. lol. With me I just need to break my routine. Like I go out and smoke to get away and think and I need to first stop doing that. Right now I'm just replacing nicotine but its ok because I'm trying to break he pattern of behavior first.

The chantix was supposed to kill the cravings. Other people I talked to said that when they tried smoking on it it just made them sick. For me I have no problem smoking two packs even on anti smoking drugs.

And wihnallstoke and Dillinger, you guys are killing me.

. I miss the taste and feel the most...I mean I got enough nicotine in me...it is the physical act of smoking that I liked the most.

**r1 pet** · 28-01-2013, 01:25 PM

you will find that smokers dont like a turncoat,
you will come under pressure from the day old nappie breath brigade to suck on just one more,
you must resist,
no such thing as a free fag, you will pay later, one way or another,
good luck, (a smokers breath realy does smell like old nappies

)
hope this helps

**Zooheekock** · 28-01-2013, 01:36 PM

Right now taking chantix (champix) nicotine gum, and electronic cigarettes.

Use whatever it takes. I took valium (lots) for the first 3 days, used patches for around four weeks and didn't drink for 3 months. I think the not drinking was (for me) probably the most important part of the whole thing.

**pseudolus** · 28-01-2013, 01:49 PM

^ I like having a morning dump with a smoke though - does this mean I have to quit dumping then? lol

**Davis Knowlton** · 28-01-2013, 02:19 PM

I quit once for nine years - of course, I was married to the white mistake for those nine years, so I quit doing just about everything I enjoyed.

**Neo** · 28-01-2013, 03:03 PM

Try too hard and you will fail under the pressure.
Don't tell yourself you've quit.
Tell yourself they are not important too you.
That's how I did it.

**DrAndy** · 28-01-2013, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Submaniac

With me I just need to break my routine.

yeah, stop going to the shop and buying them

stop putting the stupid things in your mouth

stop lighting them

just stop smoking you big girl's blouse, don't make such a bloody fuss

It is a drug, all you have to do is not use it

the physical cravings only last a short time, maybe max a week, the mental cravings go on forever

up to you

just stop

**Neo** · 28-01-2013, 03:18 PM

You know you're over it when you see a nice looking chick come in after a cigarette and instead of thinking which way you'd do her first you think how badly that tramp stinks like an ashtray.

**ENT** · 28-01-2013, 03:21 PM

I finally gave up tobacco for good on 23rd Dec 2012.

Today's day # 36 without tobacco. I feel really great.

I got onto the plant lobelia. I chewed a leaf (2 sq cm) any time I felt the urge to smoke.
The urge went in a minute of that, didn't even think about a smoke for hours at a time

I did this for about 3 days until the main urge time passed then ate a piece of leaf only occasionally or made a lobelia tea to sip once a day or so.

No, I don't have a lobelia habit as a result, I use less by the day as the urge to smoke lessens.

Lobelia (active ingredient is lobeline) is used to stop smoking, ease asthma and bronchitis or any coughing by expanding the airways in the lung instantly, allowing you to cough out all the crap and suck in more oxygen.

It also increases blood circulation and has been found to kill cancer cells in vitreo.

It has a calming effect, elevates mood and sharpens the thinking processes, much as tobacco does for alzheimers.

Lobelia acts on the dopamine receptors. It acts to reduce the tolerance for tobacco, alcohol, amphetamines, cocaine and opiates as well as marijuana.

The result is that after ingesting lobeline, desire for the above drugs diminishes, and if they are taken, the effects are amplified, so that tobacco makes you feel quite sick, alcohol gets you drunk fast (half the quantity needed), ganja gets you super stoned, speed is bloody cool as is coke and opiates and you get a mild speedy mellow upper if you use it alone.

Lobeline is effective in any kind of drug withdrawal, it deals to the dopamine receptors.
The effect is a lessening of craving until all craving is gone.
No more addictions.

The cancer killing properties have worked out like this for me;

My skin has got smoother, especially wrinkles around my eyes, face and backs of my hands.
Blemishes (age spots) on my skin are fading and warts have disappeared slowly.

Cuts and scratches, bruising etc heal fast, within 48 hours.

I'm truly amazed.

Just search for lobelia on the net, there's loads of information about it.

I use lobelia erinus to chew and l.inflata for tea.

Lobelia erinus

Lobelia inflata

Native Americans used lobelia to treat respiratory and muscle disorders, and as a purgative. The species used most commonly in modern herbalism is Lobelia inflata (Indian tobacco).[13] However, there are adverse effects that limit the use of lobelia.[14]
Lobelia has been used as "asthmador" in Appalachian folk medicine[15]

Lobelia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are several hundred species around the world.
It was used in anti-smoking patches until Big Pharma claimed that it didn't work and tried to get lobelia banned by FDA as a poisonous plant.
Lobelia worked so well that nicotine and other drugs were not needed in the patches, so profits dropped.

There are so many species around the world that it's impossible to eradicate the plant.

The variety that's available in and around Asia, Thailand, China and North India is L. Chinensis.

Lobelia chinensis

Grows around Southern China, Assam, N, Burma and N Thailand.

Thai name for it is พันธุ์ไม้ชนิดหนึ่ง

Sorry, I can't read Thai, so if someone else can transliterate into English it'd help.

Lobelia is also used as an aquatic plant in aquaria in Thailand.

Wanna stop smoking the easy way?

Use lobelia.

**ENT** · 28-01-2013, 03:30 PM

Oh yes, I forgot to mention, you can get lobeline tincture etc from a chemist/pharmacy or online.

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