Thread: US marine in Subic Bay Ladyboy slaying identified

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Pretty sure there hotels will be doing a roaring trade.

If the guys are allowed to receive 'visitors', plenty of online activity for dating & more in the PI.

Perhaps plenty of she/he's on board those vessels already. No need for shore leaves. The new Navy.

Originally Posted by ltnt

The new Navy

Well, the new open navy . . . can't say it wasn't like that before, it was just hidden

Originally Posted by OckerRocker

can't say it wasn't like that before, it was just hidden

Oh yea? Personal experience no doubt?

Nope. And I'm not saying it like it's a bad thing. I'd rather have an excellent gay soldier protecting my family than a terrible straight soldier.

It's not that homosexuality just happened to come into existence when the new rules came into effect - it has been there as long as there has been homosexuality . . . do you not agree?

Originally Posted by OckerRocker

it has been there as long as there has been homosexuality . . . do you not agree?

Yes agree. Not very likely that "as many," were in the services prior to the latest legislation. Alexander The Great was gay...according to the history books.

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Pretty sure there hotels will be doing a roaring trade.

If the guys are allowed to receive 'visitors', plenty of online activity for dating & more in the PI.

I'd bet they're four to a room, with an informer in each.

Originally Posted by ltnt

Yes agree. Not very likely that "as many," were in the services prior to the latest legislation. Alexander The Great was gay...according to the history books.

You may well be right . . . and as for Alexander, he was Greek after all . . .

After not showing up at court Monday, Pemberton showed up Tuesday at Judge's order.

But, he left at noon, skipping the afternoon session.

OK, it's boring, but I'm not sure he's sending the right signal of massive contrition.


Or maybe they were going to stop at McDo on the way back to Manila...

I would think any reason to get out of his box for a day would be welcome....

^He's pretty much just a hood ornament in all this now Davis. Why bother?

Originally Posted by ltnt

^He's pretty much just a hood ornament in all this now Davis. Why bother?

Yeah, there is that.....

This must be a great morale booster. So religious fanatic or PC idiot is behind this.

US troops banned from Philippine bars
18 Apr 2015 at 15:18
Philippine bar ban on US troops | Bangkok Post: news

MANILA — US troops in the Philippines have been banned from local bars and nightclubs......."There is a 10pm curfew. The restrictions include no bars and clubs," said Capt Alex Lim, a spokesman for the US Pacific Command.

Originally Posted by BobR

This must be a great morale booster. So religious fanatic or PC idiot is behind this.

US troops banned from Philippine bars
18 Apr 2015 at 15:18
Philippine bar ban on US troops | Bangkok Post: news

MANILA — US troops in the Philippines have been banned from local bars and nightclubs......."There is a 10pm curfew. The restrictions include no bars and clubs," said Capt Alex Lim, a spokesman for the US Pacific Command.

Been ongoing for months, Bob, ever since the alleged murder. There has been no shore leave for personnel from ships - these restrictions just bring land troops here for the Balakitan exercise (like Cobra Gold) into line with existing restrictions. No US military will see the inside of a bar here until after the trial concludes circa October - and the restrictions may well not be lifted then.

^ Mass punishment when one guy screws up has always been a tool of military discipline, but it was usually restricted to groups small enough that the other soldiers were in a position to influence the behavior of the problem child.

Guess I just miss the good old "boys will be boys era" when soldiers on leave hitting the bars and patronizing the local women was expected, considered normal and ignored.

Originally Posted by BobR

^ Mass punishment when one guy screws up has always been a tool of military discipline, but it was usually restricted to groups small enough that the other soldiers were in a position to influence the behavior of the problem child.

Guess I just miss the good old "boys will be boys era" when soldiers on leave hitting the bars and patronizing the local women was expected, considered normal and ignored.

I think killing them is the problem here.

It's all political, Bob. While the Visiting Forces Agreement is law, the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement is still in the courts here. The US military isn't going to chance another incident while EDCA is yet lacking final approval. There are a variety of anti-VFA/EDCA groups just waiting for another incident.

And some might allege that it's also a form of economic blackmail by the US. There is no doubt the economy misses thousands of free-spending US troops, especially in Manila and Olongapo.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

If this was testified to today, that's a big nail in his coffin.

I thought there was no doubt he killed the person

Originally Posted by BobR

Guess I just miss the good old "boys will be boys era" when soldiers on leave hitting the bars and patronizing the local women was expected, considered normal and ignored.

Ah yes, the good old days when those little brown fuckers could be abused without recourse.
Oh, how we laughed . . .

Originally Posted by OckerRocker

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

If this was testified to today, that's a big nail in his coffin.

I thought there was no doubt he killed the person
.

There isn't. I just meant a big nail as the prosecution builds its case.

Originally Posted by OckerRocker

Originally Posted by BobR
Guess I just miss the good old "boys will be boys era" when soldiers on leave hitting the bars and patronizing the local women was expected, considered normal and ignored.
Ah yes, the good old days when those little brown fuckers could be abused without recourse.
Oh, how we laughed . . .

You mean the adult girls who made 3 times as much by spending an hour with a soldier than they could have made working 12 hours in a factory or planting rice? Whoring ones self just to make a living is not restricted just to prostitutes, when I look back on some of the things I did as a lawyer I cringe with disgust. The difference is I did them and could have said no, so I cannot claim I was abused.

Originally Posted by BobR

You mean the adult girls who made 3 times as much by spending an hour with a soldier than they could have made working 12 hours in a factory or planting rice?

No, I mean the girls/women who were/are abused . . . but as long as you think that earning well is due compensation . . . not a problem

Originally Posted by BobR

Whoring ones self just to make a living is not restricted just to prostitutes, when I look back on some of the things I did as a lawyer I cringe with disgust

My wife is a lawyer, never did anything cringeworthy

Originally Posted by BobR

The difference is I did them and could have said no, so I cannot claim I was abused.

If we continue on the parallels between prostitution and the law then you should not complain about your clients beating you up and the like.
THAT is a fair comparison

Ye Bob I'm sure the girls are thrilled with selling there bodies.

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by OckerRocker

Originally Posted by BobR
Guess I just miss the good old "boys will be boys era" when soldiers on leave hitting the bars and patronizing the local women was expected, considered normal and ignored.
Ah yes, the good old days when those little brown fuckers could be abused without recourse.
Oh, how we laughed . . .

You mean the adult girls who made 3 times as much by spending an hour with a soldier than they could have made working 12 hours in a factory or planting rice? Whoring ones self just to make a living is not restricted just to prostitutes, when I look back on some of the things I did as a lawyer I cringe with disgust. The difference is I did them and could have said no, so I cannot claim I was abused.

Originally Posted by BobR

I just miss the good old "boys will be boys era"

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Ye Bob I'm sure the girls are thrilled with selling there bodies.

Indeed . . . and it was all consensual, all the 'ladies' were over 18, there were no drugs involved, no pimps were required . . .

Ah, the 'boys will be boys' times . . .

^ You sure your wife isn't doing your thinking for you? Wouldn't you be happier in San Francisco or Berkeley than Thailand?

Bob you need to get in touch with your feminine side.

Originally Posted by BobR

You sure your wife isn't doing your thinking for you?

Ah, because I don't condone rape and murder by uniformed 'boys' I have a wife who thinks for me . . . as only women could object to rape and the rest.

Nice one, Bob . . . I'm sure your wife agrees with you

Originally Posted by BobR

Wouldn't you be happier in San Francisco or Berkeley than Thailand?

Because Thais also agree with you about raping and murdering Thai women being acceptable as just something 'boys do'???