Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Landreth really is on the front line of propaganda distribution. Here and on sHillary.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Landreth really is on the front line of propaganda distribution. Here and on sHillary.

Indeed.

But, when a conservative black chick (Condi) dares to stick her toe back in the political arena we see Landreth's true colors. 'She's gay'!

Yeah, so what?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Landreth really is on the front line of propaganda distribution. Here and on sHillary.

Indeed.

But, when a conservative black chick (Condi) dares to stick her toe back in the political arena we see Landreth's true colors. 'She's gay'!

Yeah, so what?

Conservative black gay chicks are a serious threat to the liberal front. It's just does not fit into the proper niche. Blackness; gayness, minority status or even general weirdness should be reserved for the left.

If this kind of thing is allowed to spread, the poor fucking liberals will be so confused, many of them might even vote republican accidently....

Snubbie; if you had a brain you could be quite dangerous. Fortunately all you can do is spout bollocks and call people names so the threat is minimized.....

Nobody here is in denial about either science, climate change or the interests that drive the for and against arguments, yet you keep banging away with your denier BS. To challenge or question a theory is not to deny anything. To question the accuracy and reliability of data is not denial. It's actually a big part of how real science works.

You spout the same childish nonsense in every post and it neither convinces or impresses anybody, so why not just STFU until you have at least a modicum of knowledge about the subject....there's a good boy.

I bet you've never even heard of the polar vortex until SL posted about it...and I bet you don't really have a clue about what it is or what causes it. .....but we all know you are intimate with the intrigues of the Koch family and how they manage everything that's wrong in your world.

So, Mr Snubbie; what's your solution to this apparent warming trend? Should we shut down the oil industry; coal and gas? stop driving; build windmills on every patch of earth ? Off you go now to your favorite loonie sites and try to formulate something that will save us all from the depredations of the infamous Koch brothers......

Originally Posted by koman

Nobody here is in denial about either science, climate change or the interests that drive the for and against arguments

That is utterly laughable. What thread have you been reading.

Originally Posted by koman

To challenge or question a theory is not to deny anything. To question the accuracy and reliability of data is not denial. It's actually a big part of how real science works.

The scientists are already done with this part of it. The only ones who are questioning any theory are people who are not legitimately respected by their scientific peers or are not even scientists.

It is a smear campaign funded by big oil pure and simple.

Originally Posted by koman

I bet you've never even heard of the polar vortex until SL posted about it...and I bet you don't really have a clue about what it is or what causes it.

I know precisely what it is and have for sometime. You shouldn't waste your time making assumptions that you have no clue about.

I live in Seattle and grew up around the fishing industry I know loads of people that live full time and others who split their time living in Alaska. It is the front line of this change. I hear constantly stories about climate change is affecting their livelihoods.

Once again the only people up there happy about the changes in the climate are those that work for big oil.

It is affecting my local area as well. I walked up the street today in my neighborhood and saw flowers and trees in full bloom. There is literally no snow in the mountains that I can see from my home. The snowpack is 100 inches below the lowest recorded record.

Those changes are right in my backyard and are shocking and unprecedented.

^It's gunna be just like 'The day after tomorrow' innit? Which is on as I type. Funny film that is!

Originally Posted by bsnub

The scientists are already done with this part of it.

Bullshit. You have no idea what you're talking about. Really Snubbie; you're just like a badly trained Parrot trying to repeat what it hears from it's roost in the cage....

Anyhow, I had not really intended to re-enter this pointless debate, so carry on with your "settled science" and blooming flowers in Seattle.

PS I lived for years in Victoria, BC....just up the road a bit from Seattle. It's quite normal for flowers to be blooming in February...and has been since they laid the first brick in the place....while less than a hundred miles away it's snowing like a bitch and people are freezing their asses off....FFS....

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Landreth really is on the front line of propaganda distribution. Here and on sHillary.

So what made you suddenly become a sceptic?
Do you think it's another conspiracy to oppress the masses?

Originally Posted by koman

You have no idea what you're talking about. Really Snubbie

Clearly I know more than you do. The scientific community has agreed that climate change is man made and not natural. The scientific community is in 97% agreement. It is settled. Only far right loons like yourself think otherwise.

Originally Posted by koman

It's quite normal for flowers to be blooming in February

Bullshit I know clearly what should and should not be blooming in my city and neighborhood. And those plants should not be.

Originally Posted by koman

while less than a hundred miles away it's snowing like a bitch and people are freezing their asses off....FFS....

You are clearly insane. Nowhere is it snowing anywhere around here. The Cascades are bare and so are the Olympics.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Only far right loons like yourself

Funny how everybody that holds a different view to you is labelled a "far right loon"

Originally Posted by bsnub

I know clearly what should and should not be blooming in my city and neighborhood

I was talking about Victoria.....not Seattle. Anyhow the Pacific Northwest is having one of it's milder than normal winters this year....so what. I live there for many years and there's nothing unusual about it...so stop talking nonsense.

Originally Posted by bsnub

You are clearly insane

Insane people frequently believe everybody else to be insane.....go see somebody Snubby....

Originally Posted by bsnub

Nowhere is it snowing anywhere around here. The Cascades are bare and so are the Olympics.

Well fuck me, imagine that. Have you checked to see if it's snowing anywhere else on the continent?







Yes indeed. East of the divide it's been snowing like a bitch and very cold... This happens quite often where one side of the country has a hard winter the other side has a mild one. How old are you Snubby?

None of this is proof on anything BTW.....just weather happening like it's been doing for a billion years....

I'm off to make a Pizza now, so stop posting nonsense. I don't have time to argue with Parrots. sorry.....

Originally Posted by koman

Well fuck me, imagine that. Have you checked to see if it's snowing anywhere else on the continent?

The cold snap in the NE is due to the polar vortex as has been previously pointed out.

Originally Posted by koman

Anyhow the Pacific Northwest is having one of it's milder than normal winters this year....so what. I live there for many years and there's nothing unusual about it...

This is not one of its more mild years this the worst year for snow pack in the cascades in recorded history by over 100 inches. If you think that is nothing unusual you need to be hit repeatedly with the stupid stick.

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Landreth really is on the front line of propaganda distribution. Here and on sHillary.

So what made you suddenly become a sceptic?
Do you think it's another conspiracy to oppress the masses?

Thats what has me confused as well. It seems beyond hypocritical that he would jump on the side of big oil and the monied interests.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I live in Seattle. ...

Once again the only people up there happy about the changes in the climate are those that work for big oil.


I walked up the street today in my neighborhood and saw flowers and trees in full bloom. There is literally no snow in the mountains

er right.... so the only people happy to see an early spring with flowers and trees in bloom and no snow, are big oil workers?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Thats what has me confused as well. It seems beyond hypocritical that he would jump on the side of big oil and the monied interests.

If big oil is so BIG and powerful , how come the oil price has tanked recently ?

What about big wind, big solar panels, big grants to warmists ?

Originally Posted by blue

so the only people happy to see an early spring with flowers and trees in bloom and no snow, are big oil workers?

Originally Posted by blue

If big oil is so BIG and powerful , how come the oil price has tanked recently ?

Ok so Koman sent in his lightweight I see? Your comments are so stupid that they reinforce the fact that only morons deny science.

here's what i believe in :

Originally Posted by blue

Originally Posted by bsnub

Thats what has me confused as well. It seems beyond hypocritical that he would jump on the side of big oil and the monied interests.

If big oil is so BIG and powerful , how come the oil price has tanked recently ?

What about big wind, big solar panels, big grants to warmists ?

How 'bout that big whale Al Gore who has led this scam from the early days, eh?

What is there to debate.

Originally Posted by pseudolus aka merchant of doubt

Vice President Al Gore has amassed a personal fortune

Originally Posted by pseudolus aka merchant of doubt

Landreth really is on the front line of propaganda distribution.

If it’s a day that ends in – y it must be a conspiracy.

Deeper Ties to Corporate Cash for Doubtful Climate Researcher

For years, politicians wanting to block legislation on climate change have bolstered their arguments by pointing to the work of a handful of scientists who claim that greenhouse gases pose little risk to humanity.

One of the names they invoke most often is Wei-Hock Soon, known as Willie, a scientist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics who claims that variations in the sun’s energy can largely explain recent global warming. He has often appeared on conservative news programs, testified before Congress and in state capitals, and starred at conferences of people who deny the risks of global warming.

But newly released documents show the extent to which Dr. Soon’s work has been tied to funding he received from corporate interests.

He has accepted more than $1.2 million in money from the fossil-fuel industry over the last decade while failing to disclose that conflict of interest in most of his scientific papers. At least 11 papers he has published since 2008 omitted such a disclosure, and in at least eight of those cases, he appears to have violated ethical guidelines of the journals that published his work.

The documents show that Dr. Soon, in correspondence with his corporate funders, described many of his scientific papers as “deliverables” that he completed in exchange for their money. He used the same term to describe testimony he prepared for Congress.

Though Dr. Soon did not respond to questions about the documents, he has long stated that his corporate funding has not influenced his scientific findings.

The documents were obtained by Greenpeace, the environmental group, under the Freedom of Information Act. Greenpeace and an allied group, the Climate Investigations Center, shared them with several news organizations last week.

The documents shed light on the role of scientists like Dr. Soon in fostering public debate over whether human activity is causing global warming. The vast majority of experts have concluded that it is and that greenhouse emissions pose long-term risks to civilization.

Historians and sociologists of science say that since the tobacco wars of the 1960s, corporations trying to block legislation that hurts their interests have employed a strategy of creating the appearance of scientific doubt, usually with the help of ostensibly independent researchers who accept industry funding.

Fossil-fuel interests have followed this approach for years, but the mechanics of their activities remained largely hidden.

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Dr. Soon rarely grants interviews to reporters, and he did not respond to multiple emails and phone calls last week; nor did he respond to an interview request conveyed to him by his employer. In past public appearances, he has reacted angrily to questions about his funding sources, but then acknowledged some corporate ties and said that they had not altered his scientific findings.

“I write proposals; I let them decide whether to fund me or not,” he said at an event in Madison, Wis., in 2013. “If they choose to fund me, I’m happy to receive it.” A moment later, he added, “I would never be motivated by money for anything.”

The newly disclosed documents, plus additional documents compiled by Greenpeace over the last four years, show that at least $409,000 of Dr. Soon’s funding in the past decade came from Southern Company Services, a subsidiary of the Southern Company, based in Atlanta.

Southern is one of the largest utility holding companies in the country, with huge investments in coal-burning power plants. The company has spent heavily over many years to lobby against greenhouse-gas regulations in Washington. More recently, it has spent significant money to research ways to limit emissions.

Yes, and I've also read in the past some scientists were paid $10,000 from corporations per article written denying / debunking climate change.

Seasonally, it snows, normally at this time of year in more northern latitudes.

Originally Posted by Umbuku

What is there to debate.

Shit! I'm convinced with this psychotropic display.

We are all bad. We humans are dirty little cretins!