Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The vast majority of climate change is caused by the sun and the path the earth is traveling at any given time coupled with the suns activity.


the reality is that c02 is so minimal that it hardly has any effect at all.

^ Got any scientific studies or other PROOF that back up your claims?

Nope, didn't think so.

You choose to believe what you want to believe, without any basis in fact or science.

Then again, you believe aliens are real, aids is a man-made disease, Israel owns the US, and that jews killed JFK....

Do you realize you're just as insane as that Alex Jones fellow...

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

^ Got any scientific studies or other PROOF that back up your claims? Nope, didn't think so.

You never gave me a chance to respond before you continued with your hate campaign.

Then again, you believe aliens are real, aids is a man-made disease, Israel owns the US, and that jews killed JFK....

Again, as I wrote in the other place you wrote this guff, I never said anything about JEWS, you bellend. Why are you obsessed with jewry? You seem to be confused about what Israel is? Have a read about these chaps. Let them enlighten you.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

^ Got any scientific studies or other PROOF that back up your claims? Nope, didn't think so.

You never gave me a chance to respond before you continued with your hate campaign.

Then again, you believe aliens are real, aids is a man-made disease, Israel owns the US, and that jews killed JFK....

Again, as I wrote in the other place you wrote this guff, I never said anything about JEWS, you bellend. Why are you obsessed with jewry? You seem to be confused about what Israel is? Have a read about these chaps. Let them enlighten you.

Oh, my bad, according to you it was ISRAEL that killed JFK, not the jews:

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The last president that refused to crawl around Israel on his knees was JFK...and that's why they killed him.

And you have some proof or evidence to support this silly notion?

Or that aliens are real?

Or that AIDS is a man made disease?

Or that human driven climate change is a hoax?

Nope, didn't think so.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The vast majority of climate change is caused by the sun and the path the earth is traveling at any given time coupled with the suns activity.


the reality is that c02 is so minimal that it hardly has any effect at all.

^ Got any scientific studies or other PROOF that back up your claims?

Nope, didn't think so.

You choose to believe what you want to believe, without any basis in fact or science.

Then again, you believe aliens are real, aids is a man-made disease, Israel owns the US, and that jews killed JFK....

Do you realize you're just as insane as that Alex Jones fellow...

Back to the topic of this thread, you've made some silly assertions, but not provided a shred of evidence:

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The vast majority of climate change is caused by the sun and the path the earth is traveling at any given time coupled with the suns activity.


the reality is that c02 is so minimal that it hardly has any effect at all.

C'mon Pseudo, put down your drink and focus.

Originally Posted by blue

Originally Posted by Rainfall

What causes climate change,

I don't know , there are a lot of things we don't understand , like how does instinct in animals work ? but it does .

Taking a guess , I'd say climate change is caused mainly by the Sun, as we march to it's beat , and we have a slightly deviating orbit around it .
The global warming that's occurred in the last hundreds / thousands of years is to be expected as we move further away from the last maximum ice age .
The earth has always warmed up in inter glacial periods .
What do you think caused the last ice age to end after so long ?


While the current short cooling spell ?
probably caused because the sun is relatively inactive at the moment, regarding sun spots and solar flares .

Clouds are formed using tiny particles at thier base , and one of these is Cosmic Rays , which bombard the earth constantly .
The more clouds - the cooler the Earth is .

When solar flares stream out towards Earth , they bat away cosmic rays , so less clouds are formed , but as stated , the sun is quiet at the moment so more cosmic rays are getting through and so more cooling clouds forming - get it

Also the sudden economic growth and pollution in Asia especially China is probably also cloud forming , thus cooling .

But don't get me wrong I wish man made global warming was true , I live in the north of the Earth , I would welcome a 10 degree warming , and the total melting of the ice caps -giving the dirty oceans a good wash with that pure fresh ice water.
Asia might become a little too hot , but never mind , I'd take my holidays elsewhere. .

You are so full with disinformation, I wouldn't even know where to start. You could understand the climate just fine, but you choose not to.

Glad to see that you are back on topic again.

I just walked outside. It was cloudy. I felt a chill in the air. Then, it got a little windy. The cloud moved. The sun shone bright. I felt very hot and dived into my swimming pool to cool down.

but of course, the activity of the sun has no effect at all on the temperature of the world. None at all. Nada. Zip. Not a jot. And you can not tax sun light.

Originally Posted by beazalbob69

Originally Posted by blue

What do you think caused the last ice age to end after so long ?

Actually new studies are coming out showing that a massive impact event ended the last ice age also ended much of the mega fauna and also a worldwide human civilization that existed about the same time.

Evidence for deposition of 10 million tonnes of impact spherules across four continents 12,800 y ago

Nah - that's just been put there to test our faith - isn't that right Tony?




The planet will not get hurt no matter what we do to it (unless the yanks and chinese have a nuke fight - that might do something). All that will happen is that humans will die out and cease to exist. So fucking what? Are we taht special? The only animal to commit terrorism and pointless wars? The only animal so screwed up they have to pay to live on earth? Lets us die out - that is the best way to save the world (Tony...you start... go on, top yourself).

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Rainfall

I wouldn't even know where to start.

Neither does Al Gore but he's done well making it up as he goes along! What a guy! Look at the money he's made off this scam he's been fronting!

Can someone tell us how the OZ economy is projected to do now this Carbon Credit thing has blown up in their face?

Indeed - the Australian government seems very angry that firms have reduced carbon emissions to such an extent that their revenue from tax has decreased to the tune of $4b . I thought they would be happy about it? Interesting....perhaps their concern about emissions is not so much about reducing them than something else? I wonder what that could be?


Source - half way down this - the Australian has removed the original version of it for obvious reasona).

Reckon it's kinda pointless arguing with people who deny reality. There will always be a lunatic fringe who believes everything is a conspiracy and will simply ignore any scientific evidence that doesn't jive with their delusional world view.

The same kind of nuts who think Israel owns the US, Israel killed JFK, aliens are real, AIDS is a man made disease, Elvis lives, and the world is flat...

Heh tony - do you know of any decent winter sports outfitters in Thailand? It's gets quite cool in the evening down here on the coast recently, and I might need to buy a jacket or something. Oh, no, scratch that, because a computer model someone posted up said it was getting really really hot. Ahhhh nothing like false information to keep you warm when there is cool breeze blowing in the tropics.



(oh, and who did kill JFK and why? Where did aids come from? Prove there are no aliens int he universe, what has the US done anti Israel interests in the last 20 yrs....still waitin bozo -no matter which thread you pollute with your junk, you never actually answer these questions).

My oh my...what is the Goreacle going to do about this?

To the Horror of Global Warming Alarmists, Global Cooling Is Here.

We know what the 'usual suspects' aboard here will do/say:

"It's all bogus I tell you! The Science is in!"

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by Neverna

I have no doubt that climate change has been going on for thousands or millions of years. There have been ice ages in the past. We're not in an ice age now so the climate must have changed. I believe it's normal and natural and not related to carbon emissions.

Like many climate change denialists, what you believe, has no basis in fact...

like many gullible people, you seem to know very little about what you believe

try reading a few geology books

Originally Posted by S Landreth

so which one are you?

The better question is are you still firmly in the Global Alarmist Camp?

To the Horror of Global Warming Alarmists, Global Cooling Is Here.

Sorry, the source isn't World Net Daily or Michael Savage etc.
Forbes being the lowly magazine it is will have to do re veracity of the information.

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Originally Posted by S Landreth

so which one are you?

The gullible crew seem to rely exclusively on attacking those sensible enough to question the motives behind climate scam as opposed to lapping it all up after saying a little prayer to Gore.

It's quite a boring trick that Trollbkk and Landreth uses. They, in their ignorance, think that the world is like Kansas and they are Dorothy. Everything is lovely and no one ever would do something bad and mean and beastly. So in their naivity, they pick other world events that don't add up to the open minded, lump them together with the idea of questioning the billionaire bankers who are funding and profiteering from climate scam and try to show that opposing people are mad for some reason.

Mad for questioning? Mad for not believing proven liars? Mad for thinking that the big ball of fire int he sky might have an impact upon global warmth? Mad for askig (for the 10000th time) what is being done aside from profiteering?

Why are we mad Lambeth? Why? You chuck models at us, talk about peer reviews and refusing to accept that the industry funding all of this is so imposing, so strong, so career threatening to anyone who says "heh, this isn't right". then you all go too far and lump it together with Holocaust Deniers. Hardly strange you would do that because for you it is about being emotive and trying to discredit another side. Trying to win battle of minds when your opponents couldn't gie a fuck what you think and believe you can prove but are infuriated that you point blank refuse to ask ....

Apart from funding government deficits with carbon tax and making the bankers stupidly rich with trading....... what is being done?

Nothing.

Daft lot trying to find political and fiscal explanations for climate change.
About the only way those twocfactors are involved is in the motive for over-exploitation of existing natural resources.
Life forms are becoming extinct at the rate of aprox. 25 species of all animals per 50 yrs.

Re-afforestation and re-generation of algae as well as other ocean life forms is essential to halting or at least in slowing down progress to what now seems to be inevitable extnction in an unanticipated and very short period of time.

The CO2/O2 balance is maintained largely by forests and blue green algae, absorbing O2 and producing CO2 at night, while absorbing CO2 and producing O2 in daylight hours.

Upsetting that balance by destroying forests and reducing blue-green algae density in the oceans increases the CO2 levels in the atmosphere, as does industrialand human polution.

So temperatures will continue to rise as atmospheric CO2 increases, and climate warming will continue, alternating with cool phases, and more life forms will continue to become extinct.

Originally Posted by ENT

So temperatures will continue to rise as atmospheric CO2 increases, and climate warming will continue, alternating with cool phases, and more life forms will continue to become extinct.

Think so?

What about this?

To the Horror of Global Warming Alarmists, Global Cooling Is Here.

tell you what though, wouldn't it be funny if these clowns, in say a 100 years or so, did find a magic bullet that removed Co2 from the air, and hey did it, and the next day all the plants were dead, then the animals died including humans. The world would be very safe then.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

tell you what though, wouldn't it be funny if these clowns, in say a 100 years or so, did find a magic bullet that removed Co2 from the air, and hey did it, and the next day all the plants were dead, then the animals died including humans. The world would be very safe then.

Yes, but your idea is not so far off the mark re these loons who think the worst about Gia (or whatever the Gorebots call earth) is the folks populating it.

One of Teakdoors angry denialists , who refuses even to contemplate that climate change is natural and sun driven , a while ago told me to
''get with the programme ''
I asked

Well, what's the plan ? what do you want me to do ?

I'm still waiting for a reply
as I am to

why is global warming necessarily bad ?

, surely there will be winners and losers , like always in nature.

Instead the deniers here just keep bombarding us with thier pseudo scientific alarmist links and huge chunks of pasted text , combined with childish insults .

Irrespective of the cause, it seems to be a given that sea levels are going to rise. If that's the case, the rich will have to move their beach houses.

The Bangladeshis on the other hand will be knocking on everyone's door looking for a place to live.

I reckon that alone makes it worth doing something about.

Originally Posted by blue

One of Teakdoors angry denialists , who refuses even to contemplate that climate change is natural and sun driven , a while ago told me to
''get with the programme ''
I asked

Well, what's the plan ? what do you want me to do ?

I'm still waiting for a reply .

Jesus H. Christ on a Crutch, Blue...getting with the programme means contributing (tything) to the All Holy Church of Gore. And in terms of 'what do you want me to do' means proselytzing the Word to one and all. Don't take NO for an answer. Call MMGW deniers Sinners or worse! Sic the IRS on them. Be like the Jehovah Witnesses and accost folks in their homes - alerting them to the dangers of non-belief!