Thread: GOP: now & in the future

People in civilised countries tend to... boomers. Perhaps thats why americans slaughter each other with such enthusiasm.

Originally Posted by hazz

People in civilised countries tend to... boomers. Perhaps thats why americans slaughter each other with such enthusiasm.

Because a 'Z' is pronounced 'Zee'?

civilised (sec)
thats (sec)

^Boomers, it not me who feels the need to compare america to third world shit holes saying look this place is more dangerous than america.

Originally Posted by hazz

^Boomers, it not me who feels the need to compare america to third world shit holes saying look this place is more dangerous than america.

WTF, over?

What's that got to do with a 'Zed' or a 'Zee'?

Nevermind...& any opportunity to take a swipe at 'Merkins & America is Red Meat for y'all!

I'm putting this here. An interview with Prescott Bush. Then, a Connecticut Senator.

Notice the different way of expressing one's self. The deference in the questions.

And the SIMILARITIES of today.

Prescott Bush Interview : Pt. 1 - YouTube

Heh...just remember that voter fraud is a GOP myth, right?

Cincinnati poll worker indicted for voting for Obama six times.

Back to you...

^Florida finds evidence of voter fraud by GOP-tied firm - Salon.com

Two former employees of the consulting firm Strategic Allied Consulting, whose head Nathan Sproul has a history of legal issues as well as ties to the Republican Party, admitted to law enforcement that they committed voter fraud, the Associated Press reports.

Oh dear, I guess it's not only dems. Such a miniscule issue it makes no difference in the results. Down boy.

Remember this blatant attempt at "impartiality"?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Remember this blatant attempt at "impartiality"?

A photoshop from a right-wing blog?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Nope

Is this an actual polling place? Update: Judge orders mural covered Update: Philly does really bad job covering mural « The Greenroom

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Much of the current GOP are dangerous radicals. Want widespread civil unrest, maybe even civil war? Vote republican. Want national economic collapse- vote republican. They don't have a functioning calculator between them, or at least those that do are certainly not sharing the numbers with the great unwashed. How strange that the greatest threat to those things that made America great, is one of it's two major political parties. No wonder they're trying to get y'all wound up about muzzies, blacks etc- standard diversion tactics.

Heh...the GOP is not dead but very much alive as evidenced from Rick Perry's speech which rocked the house at CPAC:

"The popular media narrative is that this country has shifted away from conservative ideals, as evidenced by the last two presidential elections. That’s what they think. That’s what say. That might be true if Republicans had actually nominated conservative candidates in 2008 and 2012," Gov. Rick Perry (R-Texas) said in his address at CPAC this afternoon.

Perry also slammed President Obama for undocumented illegal immigration being released from detention centers due to sequestration cuts.

"This president's posture, it'd be laughable if he hadn't taken it one step too far, dangerously releasing criminals onto our streets to make a political point," Perry told the crowd at CPAC. "When you have a federally-sponsored jailbreak, and don't get confused, that's exactly what that is -- when you've had a federally-sponsored jailbreak, you've crossed the line from politics of spin to politics as a craven form of cynicism."

Rick Perry Slams McCain, Romney At CPAC, Says They Aren't Conservative | RealClearPolitics

No shit...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

when you've had a federally-sponsored jailbreak, you've crossed the line from politics of spin to politics as a craven form of cynicism."

That really sums up Rick Perry himself, and with his one-note political style (when he can remember it) too. Almost poetic.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Consider the audience. They are kinda slow (CPAC members).

Heh...Ann Coulter slow?

Don't need a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows:

Poll: McCain´s the
´wacko,´ not Rand Paul


In the first personality poll taken since Sen. John McCain fired his his "wacko birds" Maverick missile at fellow Republican Sen. Rand Paul's filibuster last week, the young turk turns out to be far more popular than his old bull critic.
Rasmussen Reports reveals that 67 percent of likely GOP voters have a favorable opinion of the first-term Kentucky senator. Just 52 percent view McCain favorably, and of that just 16 percent call their opinion "very favorable," said the pollster. For Paul, it's a nine-point, one-month surge and likely the result of his filibuster and McCain's friendly fire."

The Times They Are a Changing

Originally Posted by sabang

No wonder they're trying to get y'all wound up about muzzies, blacks etc- standard diversion tactics.

An easily homogenous separation of people into good and bad is a trademark of the republican platform. if they didn't have that they'd need more colours of crayon, and they ate all the good colors.

CPAC funnies-


Texan representative Louie Gohmert told an audience: ''Vietnam was winnable but people in Washington decided we would not win it,''

Senator Lindsey Graham said he would soon introduce a resolution declaring that America would back Israel politically, financially and militarily in any conflict with Iran, even a pre-emptive attack.He declared only one outcome was tolerable in the American conflict with what he called radical Islam: ''We win, you lose.''
...His co-panelists agreed but appeared a little shocked when the first question from the audience came from a young man who introduced himself as Adam Khan, president of the College Republicans of the University of Nevada. He said he was a Muslim American and was dismayed by the panel's association of terrorism with Islam.

....a stall was selling The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Civil War. The book explains how the South maintained ''moral high ground'' throughout the war, that the South's leaders expected slavery to die out and that racism was perceived by some to be worse in the north than in the slave states.

[Marco Rubio].... In contradiction to much of the GOP's Washington establishment, the Cuban-American voiced opposition to the creation of ''a pathway to citizenship'' for the nation's 11 million mainly Hispanic undocumented immigrants. He struck a chord with some, who booed when Tea Party Texan Republican Rick Perry called for Latino outreach.
There will be blood: the US right bites back


CPAC should not be confused with the GOP- it is the right wing conference. It seems hell bent on going further right. Democrats undoubtably hope they get their way, but that remains to be seen. The Democrat party seems to be more assuming the role of the main 'Establishment' party these days. If that becomes a lasting perception, the GOP will be in the political wilderness- at least at federal level- for several election cycles yet.

Heh...how 'bout this one filed under Lame/Gotcha/Fail!

Democrats Try And Fail To Catch Conservatives Cheering Ashley Judd’s On-Screen Death: CPAC crowd unmoved by the big moment, video shows. No gotcha here.

Sorry, but Ashley Judd doesn't raise a boner with this poster...

CPAC 2013: Angry and beaten right wingers offer wacky ideas in search for electoral victory

By Paul Harris, The Observer
Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:58 EDT

Delegates at fringe Republican convention seek a way back into America’s heart at a key annual meeting of conservatives

Gene Wisdom, a 55-year-old conservative from Nashville, Tennessee, was no fan of Barack Obama. Clutching a book called The Communist, he was waiting eagerly to meet the book’s author, Paul Kengor, so that he could sign it. The book, which detailed the life of black American journalist and labour activist Frank Marshall Davis, bore a startling subtitle: “The untold story of Barack Obama’s mentor.” That worked for Wisdom. “It is very convincing,” he said.

Believing that the president is more or less a communist would be surprising in many political circles, including many Republican ones. But Wisdom was not just queuing at another book launch. He was one of the crowd at the largest and most important conservative gathering in the American political calendar, where the outlandish is commonplace.

The Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), hosted by the American Conservative Union, does not do moderation or restraint. At times it appears to maintain only a loose connection with political realities. This is an annual shindig of conservative clans from across the nation. But this year the conclave took place against the sombre backdrop of presidential hopeful Mitt Romney’s disastrous defeat.

For a location, organisers had plumped for a gigantic convention complex just outside Washington DC. It was a place of giant hotels and expensive upmarket chain restaurants, surrounded by freeways. It felt like an artificially suburban, self-contained, inward-looking universe with almost no natural relationship to the surrounding landscape. As such, it was perfect.

Obama’s win has left many American conservatives angry. They are mostly furious at Romney – a vastly rich titan of free market capitalism and deeply religious social conservative – whom they consider not rightwing enough. “This Romney campaign was the worst campaign in the history of the United States,” said pollster Pat Caddell.

Other consultants complained that Romney had failed to hone the right conservative message. But then it is not easy. The movement is a fractious mix of social conservatives who hate abortion and gay rights, fiscal conservatives who do not care about such things but hate government, and then foreign policy conservatives who are obsessed with the latest fashion in perceived threat – a hot seat currently occupied by Iran.

So instead, conservative activists often find themselves glued together by emotion, paranoia and a firm belief that America is about to turn into a liberal totalitarian state. Tea Party groups promoted themselves with events linked to the Hunger Games, the dystopian sci-fi novel and film, and a video that fantasised about violent revolution. In a giant exhibition hall in the bowels of the centre, dozens of stalls vied for who could be most apocalyptic about the state of America. One contender was Cliff Kincaid’s group called America’s Survival. Kincaid was also promoting a film about Frank Marshall Davis. But this work postulated Davis was not just Obama’s political father but also his biological one: a development that would shock the many conservatives convinced Obama is a Kenyan. “He is a Marxist, though. It is his background,” Kincaid said.

The idea that Obama – whose administration has seen a wild stock market boom and who boasts Goldman Sachs as a major campaign contributor – is to the left of Lenin would seem insane anywhere outside this place. But inside CPAC there is a vast self-referencing ecosystem of media and thinktanks to back up that world view. Corridors are lined with talk radio shows and booksellers all barking up the same tree that says Obama is a nightmare come true, the very embodiment of a leftwing anti-American autocrat. A cinema even beamed films like Frack Nation, America at Risk and Hillary: The Movie. Internal logic is not always a strong point. In one film screening about abortion, an interviewee onscreen declared: “They are attempting to do abortions on women who are not pregnant.”

Those same corridors were also full of fresh-faced members of the Young America’s Foundation handing out posters – eagerly snapped up – of a beaming Sarah Palin riding on a horse. “They see her as a star. As someone to look up to and a person of change,” said foundation spokesman Adam Tragone.

Not many Americans outside CPAC share that view. The former Alaska governor is seen as someone who left her job as governor of Alaska early to pursue a media career. Her talent for mis-statements, which helped derail John McCain’s 2008 presidential run, are a joke for many Americans – not to mention people overseas. But then even Palin looks like a genius compared to another CPAC star, Donald Trump. The reality TV mogul was given a primetime slot which he used to launch a plea for a return to American manufacturing, even as he boasted of buying all his TVs in South Korea. “I am continuously criticised. It’s unbelievable,” he mused.

Not surprisingly, many have called on CPAC – and the wider Republican party on which it still exerts powerful influence – to change. Obama’s victory was built on the votes of the young, women and minorities: all demographics that some conservatives have toiled mightily to offend. Nor have those habits been broken. CPAC embraced Trump but did not invite gay Republicans, with their GOProud organisation reduced to a single speaker on a single panel invited along by the Competitive Enterprise Institute. “We are taking tolerance out of the closet,” boasted institute director Fred Smith, which raised the question of why it was there in the first place.

Yet, unlike gays, outreach to non-whites was a theme of Cpac. But it did misfire on occasion. One panel on conservatives from non-white backgrounds featured two white speakers, including a standup comedian from Hollywood. Panel moderator Suhail Khan explained – apparently in earnest – that Hollywood was considered minority outreach due to liberals dominating the entertainment industry. “Cartoon films have a very left message. The Lorax was a recent example of that,” he said.

Another disaster was a Tea Party-organised panel entitled “Tired of being called racist?” which was attended by at least two white nationalists. As black speaker K. Carl Smith outlined his vision of a colour-blind ideology, two young white men, Scott Terry and Matthew Heimbach, spoke up to defend slavery, racial segregation and insult Martin Luther King. The meeting descended into an ugly shouting match, though Heimbach, who heads the White Students Union at his college, explained later to the Observer: “After a few drinks most people here agree with us.”

That is no doubt a demented pipe dream. But conservatives do have a serious image problem of being too white in a country whose skin tone is changing more with every election cycle. Much of the convention’s attention was focused on America’s millions of Hispanics, who are the fastest-growing major demographic in America and who have fled the party because of its hardline stance on immigration control. Belatedly many have realised that is a major problem. Kay Rivoli, a singer known for her viral YouTube ditty Press 1 for English, even admitted as much. “We need to change on immigration reform,” she said.

But on nearly everything else Rivoli was a font of optimism about conservatism’s political future. “We have to be a little more loud, a little more brazen,” she said, though it was hard to imagine such a thing. She then happily mused that somewhere in the giant CPAC hall a future conservative president was walking. “There’s a possibility,” she said.

Not everyone sees it that way. Bill Nitze was wearing an 18th century costume, complete with Revolutionary War-style hat. He styled himself a conservative, keen on the constitution and a patriot. But, despite his elaborate dress, he was hardly a CPAC fanatic. “This group, in my view, is too associated with what I call the last stand of white Christian America,” he said. So who had Nitze voted for in 2012? “Obama,” he replied.

Angry and desperate and unpredictable. No wonder they are clinging so fervently to their assault rifles.

This is my favorite bit of CPAC lunacy so far (not that I need any more to be convinced I don't like sharing a country with these assholes):
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The exchange occurred after an audience member from North Carolina, 30-year-old Scott Terry, asked whether Republicans could endorse races remaining separate but equal. After the presenter, K. Carl Smith of Frederick Douglass Republicans, answered by referencing a letter by Frederick Douglass forgiving his former master, the audience member said “For what? For feeding him and housing him?” Several people in the audience cheered and applauded Terry’s outburst.

Ted Cruz served up some juicy red meat at the CPAC CLOSING.

Kinda hard to believe he’s only been a Senator for ten weeks.

Another rising star, Rand Paul won the CPAC straw poll.

He’s having a pretty good run too.