Ukraine war mega thread

[Norton]

Putin claimed Russia had 'liberated' the besieged Ukrainian city of Mariupo

CAUTION! Putin claims may be less than truth.
Just training exercise. Russia will not invade.
We will never attack civilians. Only military targets.
Don't blame me. The "west" made me do this.

[pickel]

^^
Pretty sure every country that has ever been invaded has done the same with collaborators.

Putin is busy doing it himself in Russia, even though they aren't the ones being invaded.

[sabang]

Sure, that's war for you. There will be atrocities on both sides- although only one side is really being reported, and several times falsely accused. Why War?

[pickel]

There will be atrocities on both sides-

I don't consider dealing with traitors to be "atrocities".

although only one side is really being reported

And yet here you are posting a link reporting on it.

[Switch]

Sure, that's war for you. There will be atrocities on both sides- although only one side is really being reported, and several times falsely accused. Why War?

Ask your mate Vlad. He has all your answers.

[David48atTD]

Details and Plenty more- Zelensky’s Hardline Internal Purge – Consortium New

Not as crazy a source as I had thought ...

Consortium News

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Consortium News - Media Bias/Fact Check

[misskit]

Inside The Bizarre Conspiracy Theory That Halted Putin’s Bombing Plans


Brave defenders of Ukraine’s Mariupol holed up in the Azovstal steel plant captured the world’s attention with their refusal to surrender to the Russian invaders. Then President Vladimir Putin abruptly “canceled” plans to storm the plant, ordering his forces to simply blockade it.


Azovstal, which occupies four square miles and has an extensive subterranean structure, has been on the receiving end of relentless artillery attacks over recent weeks. But despite their overwhelming numerical advantage, Russian forces have been unable to dislodge the Azov regiment from the plant.


Now Russian state media have latched onto a bizarre explanation for Putin's decision to back off—that the steel plant is teeming with Western mercenaries and even senior NATO officers.


On Friday, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov declared: “The remainder of Ukrainian nationalists from the Azov regiment… together with foreign mercenaries from the United States and European countries, are securely blockaded on the territory of the Azovstal plant.”

MORE Inside The Bizarre Conspiracy Theory That Halted Putin’s Bombing Plans

[Backspin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/MJIZhqKfI5Q

[misskit]

Ukraine resists Russian advance in the East: UK defense ministry

Despite the increased activity, Russian forces have made no major gains in the last 24 hours as Ukrainian counterattacks continue to hinder their efforts, according to the UK Ministry of Defense.


Russian air and maritime forces have not established control in either domain, owing to the effectiveness of Ukraine’s air and sea defense.


Despite their stated conquest of Mariupol, heavy fighting continues to take place frustrating Russian attempts to capture the city, further slowing their desired progress in the Donbas.

Russia-Ukraine live updates: Russian swimmer suspended for attending Putin event - ABC News

[helge]

Hmmmm but why....you gotta ask why

Staircase in Ukraine mall decorated with giant swastika | The Times of Israel

Ask all you want

Will be dodged by most of the posters on this forum.

"very inconvenient propaganda".

Well, Israel probably isn't the greatest fan of ukrainian "nationalism", but several posters here find it acceptable.

Bon appetit

[pickel]

Ask all you want

Will be dodged by most of the posters on this forum.

"very inconvenient propaganda".

Well, Israel probably isn't the greatest fan of ukrainian "nationalism", but several posters here find it acceptable.

Bon appetit

Perhaps helge can explain why there is an actual Nazi political party in Denmark, as well as a Nazi radio station funded by the Danish Government.

Should Denmark be next on Putins list?


National Socialist Movement of Denmark
Danmarks Nationalsocialistiske Bevægelse

Their logo:



National Socialist Movement of Denmark - Wikipedia

State Funding of Danish Right-Wing Radio Stirs Debate | Europe | News and current affairs from around the continent | DW | 08.11.2003

[helge]

Dear, Pickel

Thanks for all your work posting the above.

Certainly could be debated.

In another thread maybe


Now take a deep breath and explain to me:

Why are you dodging inconvenient content and going of topic time after time ?

It would be easy to post: "Yes, it's shit"and be done with it.

But you can't and I find it interesting

[pickel]

Yes, it's shit.

It's in nearly every country, and does not justify what Russia is doing. It's also blown way out of proportion and used as a propaganda tool by Putin.

Now, about those Danes?

[helge]

Yes, it's shit.

Yes

It's in nearly every country, and does not justify what Russia is doing.

Also correct

It's also blown way out of proportion

No, sadly it isn't, Pickel



This is postage stamps from Ukraine

Do you know Stephan Bandera, his legacy and the ukrainians view of him ?

Their view of him ..today

It's sadly very illustrative of the ukranian society

and used as a propaganda tool by Putin.

Yes

Now, about those Danes?

Start a thread and I'll.....reluctantly defend my country and point out the mistakes in your post

[pickel]

It would be easy to post: "Yes, it's shit"and be done with it.

Yes, it's shit.

blah, blah, blah

.......

[helge]

blah, blah, blah

I know what I posted, but then you had to post this semi-dodge:

It's in nearly every country, and does not justify what Russia is doing. It's also blown way out of proportion and used as a propaganda tool by Putin.

Another excuse

You simply can't do it


You need things to be black or white.

They rarely are

[pickel]

So, you're saying it does justify the invasion and murder of thousands of civilians. Perhaps Denmark can put you on a stamp.

[helge]

So, you're saying it does justify the invasion and murder of thousands of civilians. Perhaps Denmark can put you on a stamp.

It's in nearly every country, and does not justify what Russia is doing

Also correct

Weak, Pickel

[pickel]

Anyways helge, it's a beautiful day here so I'm off to the golf course. You can continue on boring others with your contrarianism. And maybe question your gov't about why your tax dollars fund Nazi radio stations.

[helge]

So..no comment on your false accusation against me ?

Nevermind

Have a nice day

Lovely wheather here also

[Switch]

^There’s a price to pay for playing devils advocate!

Also, you don’t get to make the tules up, when someone challenges your assertions. Stick to throwing matches into a box of fireworks and see how it goes. Try not to get too involved.

[Backspin]

A gumshoe journalist like Graham Phillips is hanging around Mariupol taking videos with his hobby drone in a T shirt and ppl don't think it is under full control ? Ha.

[Backspin]

Perhaps helge can explain why there is an actual Nazi political party in Denmark, as well as a Nazi radio station funded by the Danish Government.

Should Denmark be next on Putins list?


National Socialist Movement of Denmark
Danmarks Nationalsocialistiske Bevægelse

Their logo:



National Socialist Movement of Denmark - Wikipedia

State Funding of Danish Right-Wing Radio Stirs Debate | Europe | News and current affairs from around the continent | DW | 08.11.2003

This is called arguing in bad faith. Show me the streets that are being named after Nazis in Norway. Show me the Nazi militias that were brought into the military. Show me one national hero who was a Nazi collaborator in Norway.

I'll wait..

[Switch]

^^Ignored by passing APCs. Yes, HE is under control playing with toys. lol

[Switch]

This is called arguing in bad faith. Show me the streets that are being named after Nazis in Norway. Show me the Nazi militias that were brought into the military. Show me one national hero who was a Nazi collaborator in Norway.

I'll wait..

I suspect that your irrelevant platitudes are being ignored, because like you, they are irrelevant.