Ukraine war mega thread

[David48atTD]

[Backspin]

Wtf?! Why would USG object to peace talks?!? Nato said won’t fight. Ukraine has no help. Ukraine will lose the war. So only rational choice is peace talk asap.

[Backspin]

The only indication of what is going on in Kiev that we do have -- is the US announcement they are ready to evacuate Zelensky. That's it. Fog of war.

[Backspin]

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My god, when did Canadians become so pussified?

Let's hope Putin doesn't invade us. Socal would be saying we deserved it, and Russell would be waving a white flag from the first shot ringing out.

You are just being carried by history. If you were a Russian, you'd be in full support of this war. I might be one of the protesters in Moscow. You wouldn't be.

[David48atTD]

The Suwalki Gap, why it's important.

It's a potential link between Belarus and the Land stranded Russian exclave Kaliningrad.

Kaliningrad ... haven't heard of it before?
Neither had I, but it's a fragment of land, belonging to the Russians and offers the only non-freezing port to the Russians in the Baltic.

If Russia had control of it they would have a direct land bridge through Belarus to a Baltic Sea port AND they would cut off the ex-USSR Baltic States of Lithuania, Latvia and (my favourite) Estonia.

[Iceman123]

Now we are talking

Ukraine is ready for negotiations with Russia on a permanent basis, said the Permanent Representative to the UN

Ukraine has no option but to negotiate, the response from the West has been shameful. Putin has exposed a soft underbelly with the West and Xi will be getting hard at the thought of Taiwan joining his empire.
If Europe cannot look after it's own sphere of interest there is little hope for Taiwan etc.

We are moving into a new era - The US and UK have been exposed as all tip and no iceberg. There is no Churchill out there to make a stand.

[David48atTD]

The only indication of what is going on in Kiev that we do have -- is

Well, there are quite a few.

He is one worth a read ... The Kyiv Independent - News from Ukraine, Eastern Europe

05:18 Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully repel an attack by Russian forces on Mykolaiv,

a city near the Black Sea in southern Ukraine, Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada reports. Heavy fighting ensued after Russian troops attempted to land in Mykolaiv, but were unable to break through Ukraine’s anti-aircraft system, Governor of Mykolaiv Vitaliy Kim said.

[David48atTD]

[panama hat]

Oh really ? Suicide is a high value ? I'm sure their families would have preferred if they surrendered and went home.

It hardly surprises that you have no spine, no pride to defend your country . . . drugged-up maggot.

I might be one of the protesters in Moscow.

In adulation of Putin, we know that

Heavy fighting ensued after Russian troops attempted to land in Mykolaiv, but were unable to break through Ukraine’s anti-aircraft system, Governor of Mykolaiv Vitaliy Kim said.

You'd be hiding in a basement somewhere shitting yourself and trying to sell our your family to stay safe

Maggot

[pickel]

You are just being carried by history. If you were a Russian, you'd be in full support of this war. I might be one of the protesters in Moscow. You wouldn't be.

You supported the Iraq War, and as time passed "history" changed your mind.

You can learn from history, so long as you go back earlier than 2014 you idiot.

[David48atTD]

This was from a few hours ago ...

[pickel]

Awww, Vlads losing his Soviet friends. Belarus is gonna feel stupid when their sanctions come.



One of Russia's closest allies denies request for troops

Peter Alexander
4h ago / 4:21 PM PST


Kazakhstan, one of Russia's closest allies and a southern neighbor, is denying a request for its troops to join the offensive in Ukraine, officials said Friday.

Additionally, the former Soviet republic said it is not recognizing the Russia-created breakaway republics upheld by Russia's president, Vladimir Putin, as a pretext for its aggression in Ukraine.

Despite ceasefire accords covering the disputed land, Putin on Monday declared Russia's recognition of Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) and the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) as independent states.

The surprising development from a traditional ally of Russia has the support of the United States.
“We welcome Kazakhstan’s announcement that they will not recognize the LPR and DPR," the National Security Council said in a statement. "We also welcome Kazakhstan’s refusal to send its forces to join Putin’s war in Ukraine."

One of Russia'''s closest allies denies request for troops

[nidhogg]

Good grief. Asking for more troops surely suggests things are not going Putins way.

[harrybarracuda]

If that Finns had done that in the past, Finland would not exist. I wish Ukraine godspeed in kicking Putin's clan out of the country. So far Ukraine shows a lot of sisu, and the is what it will take.

Yep and...

Who Was Simo Hayha, The Deadliest Sniper in History? - HistoryExtra

[Bonecollector]

Some Russians have been killed in Kyiv dressed as Ukrainian soldiers.

It seems that Putin has massively miss-calculated this whole invasion. Looks like they have held the night.

Something I didn't know but there are Chechen's fighting on the east again Russia and other Chechen's loyal to that puppet twat of Putin's.

Sorry can't be assed to find the links.

SLAVA UKRAINE

[HermantheGerman]

Let's hope it spreads like Wildfire

[HermantheGerman]

I find myself with mixed sentiments when it comes to whether Zelensky should be encouraging his countrymen to make Molotov cocktails and to 'fight to the death'. I do not see how this will simply not be a slaughter. The Battle for Kiev is as well as over. I wonder whether it would not be better to let Putin have this battle victory and focus more on passive resistance. The battle is going to be a long one. It would be extremely expensive for Moscow to try to hold the country by force.

The idea that Ukraine's future should die in the streets in the form of their youth and the thought of thousands of young children without fathers or young women without there husbands is too much for me. Personally I think the right move for Zelensky is to advise his citizens to lay down their arms and Zelensky and government should leave Kiev.

That's my opinion. This battle is lost. The war is a long one.

I disagree. They have to put up a fight or else we are next. Snake eye botox Putin will not stop at Ukraine.

EU Foreign Policy Chief Josep Borrell: ‘Nobody can trust Putin’ after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

I'am been saying this for years.

The poor Ukraine people will have to suffer for our mistakes, if not we are next.
Putin is a deranged dictator

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Question?
Why is the region historicity known as Belorussia , is now known in the west as as Belarus?
"Belarus, country of eastern Europe. Until it became independent in 1991, Belarus, formerly known as Belorussia"
Belarus - Wikipedia
I bet that most people did not know that the region was known as Belorussia before 1991.

But it does not help that after the fall of the Soviet Russia became a Kleptocracy. I am sure if Russia had taken a different path they would have had a better relationship.
The situation in the region is more complicated than most people in the west think.

[HermantheGerman]

Kaliningrad ... haven't heard of it before?
Neither had I,

Jesus David, I told you that Kaliningrad name is Koenigsberg and it used to belong to Germany. According to Putin logic and other deranged TD members he has to give it back.

[HermantheGerman]

Question?
Why is the region historicity known as Belorussia , is now known in the west as as Belarus?
"Belarus, country of eastern Europe. Until it became independent in 1991, Belarus, formerly known as Belorussia"
Belarus - Wikipedia
I bet that most people did not know that the region was known as Belorussia before 1991.

But it does not help that after the fall of the Soviet Russia became a Kleptocracy. I am sure if Russia had taken a different path they would have had a better relationship.
The situation in the region is more complicated than most people in the west think.

Bet you didn't know that the Germans used to call it White Russia

The name Belarus is closely related with the term Belaya Rus', i.e., White Rus'.

Now go figure out why "white"

[Bonecollector]

botox Putin

That's what it is. I thought he was just becoming a fat twat

[panama hat]

Good grief. Asking for more troops surely suggests things are not going Putins way.

I think it may be more of a matter of wanting this to look like a multi-national peace effort against Ukie Nazis - kind of like Iraq (The multi-stuff, not the Nazis)

[bsnub]

It appears the siege of Kyiv is beginning.

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/st...81890386497543

[panama hat]

I'am been saying this for years.

And hundreds of millions of others.

Just a while ago we ere discussing this and Helge was surprised that I thought Putin would attack/invade somewhere/anywhere . . . No-one I know in Europe trusts/ed this war-criminal backward piece of shit (well, sabang, Backspit, ohno . . . but I did say 'Europe')

[OhOh]

I find myself with mixed sentiments when it comes to whether Zelensky should be encouraging his countrymen to make Molotov cocktails and to 'fight to the death'.

Untrained babies against the little green men.

State sponsored genocide.

Another NaGastan victory will be claimed.

Anonymous posted

If they are anonymous, how does one determine who posted a message on the web?

How many members does "anonymous" have?

What % are involved, 2%, 40% or 100%?

Or shall we just claim what suits our agenda?

is the US announcement they are ready to evacuate Zelensky.

Along with Ukraines weath, a la Afghanistan.

Or, similar to one Nagastan expert said, "Fuck the xxx citizens"

When will the world notice the standard NaGastan SOP. Start genocide, lose the war, runaway overnight, leave chaos with the gold, expect others to remedy.

surely suggests things are not going Putins way.

Facts on the ground, however "foggy", suggest otherwise.

It seems that Putin has massively miss-calculated this whole invasion. Looks like they have held the night

Possible change of tatics are required. The Ukraine military rats scurry to hide amongst the unarmed population. A NaGastan perfected model to implement.

Destroying cities, all bodies under tons of residential blocks. Seems acceptable to some unexceptional military commanders and political leaders.