Ukraine war mega thread

[Backspin]

I don't, I think he's a c u n t and the sooner someone double taps the fucker the world will be a better and safer place.

Haha that's because you are delusional. Wait till you see who replaces him

[Backspin]

Don't get me started. Quick answer is no. Germany is a weak social basket case to NATO. They fail every year to comply even most basic NATO tasks. They have 7 aircrafts that can actually fly and only 2 or 3 have missiles to fight the enemy. They excercise with the Dutch in forest, and they have no guns because it might be dangerous, and then they get lost in the forest.

It's almost like Germany sees no threat from Russia

[Troy]

^ Wherever do you pick up such nonsense?

[misskit]

Ukraine officials come under shelling attack on front

MOSCOW (AP) — Top Ukrainian military officials came under a shelling attack during a tour of the front of the separatist conflict in eastern Ukraine.


The officials fled to a bomb shelter before hustling from the area, according to journalist from The Associated Press who was on the tour.


Earlier Saturday, separatist leaders in eastern Ukraine ordered a full military mobilization Saturday amid a spike of violence in the war-torn region and fears in the West that Russia might use the strife as a pretext for an invasion.


Ukraine and the two regions held by the Russia-backed rebels each accused the other of escalation. Russia on Saturday said at least two shells fired from a government-held part of eastern Ukraine landed across the border.


Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba dismissed the claim as “a fake statement.”


Ukraine’s military said shelling killed a soldier early Saturday in the government-held part of the Donetsk region and that separatist forces were placing artillery in residential areas to try and provoke a response.

On Friday, the rebels began evacuating civilians to Russia with an announcement that appeared to be part of their and Moscow’s efforts to paint Ukraine as the aggressor.

MORE Ukraine rebels mobilize troops amid Russia invasion fears | AP News

[misskit]

German Foreign Ministry urges all citizens to leave Ukraine

Germany's foreign ministry on Saturday stepped up its travel and security warning for Ukraine, urging all of its nationals to leave the country, saying a military confrontation is possible at any time.


The ministry had already asked German citizens to leave Ukraine, but the latest warning is more urgent.


What is the ministry saying?


"German nationals are urgently requested to leave the country now," the ministry's website now says.


"Tensions between Russia and Ukraine have increased in light of massive presence and movements of Russian military formations near Ukraine's borders continued to increase. A military confrontation is possible at any time."


"Travel out of the country in a timely manner," said the advice. "If there is a Russian attack on Ukraine, the options for assisting German nationals are very limited."

Earlier in the week, the ministry said most staff members have left the German embassy in the Ukrainian capital Kyiv.


Family members and seconded employees not urgently needed for business operations had mostly left the country, the ministry said.


Germany's national carrier Lufthansa on Saturday said it was stopping all flights to the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, and the coastal city of Odessa as of Monday. The flights will be suspended "for the time being until the end of February," the company announced.



Dire warnings and diplomatic activity


The more urgent warning comes after intensified fighting in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, where Russia-backed separatists in 2014 declared "people's republics."


It follows unusually pessimistic US warnings that Moscow could order an invasion of Ukraine any day. NATO leaders have said they fear Russia is seeking a pretext to attack.


The past weeks have seen a flurry of diplomatic efforts as world leaders sought to avert a war in Europe amid soaring East-West tensions.

Some 150,000 troops Russian troops have amassed around Ukraine's borders — in the Russian border region, Belarus and the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea annexed by Russia. Russia said the troops were there for maneuvers and that it had no intention of invading.

German Foreign Ministry urges all citizens to leave Ukraine | News | DW | 19.02.2022

[NamPikToot]

I wonder where UN observers are in all this

[Backspin]

A newly discovered document from March 1991 shows US, UK, French & German officials discussing a pledge made to Moscow that NATO would not expand to Poland and beyond. Itshas been published by @derspiegel amid a military standoff in Eastern Europe.

https://www.rt.com/news/549921-nato-expansion-russia-document/

[misskit]

Separatist leaders pre-recorded their video appeals, metadata shows

Leaders of the self-declared republics in eastern Ukraine posted videos online on Friday announcing that they were organizing the mass evacuation of civilians to Russia.


But a CNN analysis of the videos’ metadata indicates the footage was recorded days earlier.


Denis Pushilin, leader of the breakaway Donetsk state in eastern Ukraine, said on his video appeal that "today, Feb. 18, a mass centralized evacuation of the population to the Russian Federation has been organized.” Shortly afterwards, Leonid Pasechnik, the most senior official in the Luhansk People's Republic, announced a similar move.


In his video, Pushilin also claimed that a large-scale offensive by Ukrainian forces against the Donetsk People's Republic was imminent, a claim the Ukrainian authorities have strenuously denied.


CNN downloaded the videos from Telegram and checked their metadata.


Both video files have "Wednesday 16" as their creation date, meaning that they were recorded at least two days before they were posted on Telegram.


The platform preserves metadata for the videos posted there and it cannot be changed.


CNN is reaching out to the self-declared republics for an explanation.

US Defense Secretary says it'''s apparent Russia has made a decision and is moving into position to conduct an attack

[misskit]

Exclusive satellite images show Putin's latest moves. Expert breaks down what they tell us - CNN Video

[Backspin]

Separatist leaders pre-recorded their video appeals, metadata shows

Leaders of the self-declared republics in eastern Ukraine posted videos online on Friday announcing that they were organizing the mass evacuation of civilians to Russia.


But a CNN analysis of the videos’ metadata indicates the footage was recorded days earlier.


Denis Pushilin, leader of the breakaway Donetsk state in eastern Ukraine, said on his video appeal that "today, Feb. 18, a mass centralized evacuation of the population to the Russian Federation has been organized.” Shortly afterwards, Leonid Pasechnik, the most senior official in the Luhansk People's Republic, announced a similar move.


In his video, Pushilin also claimed that a large-scale offensive by Ukrainian forces against the Donetsk People's Republic was imminent, a claim the Ukrainian authorities have strenuously denied.


CNN downloaded the videos from Telegram and checked their metadata.


Both video files have "Wednesday 16" as their creation date, meaning that they were recorded at least two days before they were posted on Telegram.


The platform preserves metadata for the videos posted there and it cannot be changed.


CNN is reaching out to the self-declared republics for an explanation.

US Defense Secretary says it'''s apparent Russia has made a decision and is moving into position to conduct an attack

How is this an issue at all ? They produced a video instructing evacuation. They might have thought they needed it that day but postponed it a couple days later. How is this news ?

[Backspin]

Yeah sure.

The President of Ukraine, speaking in Munich, has just claimed that Ukrainian separatists are shelling themselves, “out of madness”. This is despite OSCE monitors recording artillery shots fired from Ukrainian military-controlled areas, at separatists https://osce.org/files/2022-02-

[recon]

I don't now, but speaking in Munich does not ring good

[misskit]

Russian Region Declares Emergency Over Ukraine Refugees

A Russian region bordering Ukraine declared a state of emergency on Saturday citing growing numbers of people arriving from separatist-held areas in Ukraine after they received evacuation orders.


"Given the trend of increasing numbers of people arriving, we consider it appropriate to introduce a state of emergency," the Rostov region's governor Vasily Golubev said in a meeting, according to Russian news agencies.


The leaders of two pro-Russian separatist republics in eastern Ukraine on Friday ordered civilians to cross the border into Russia, accusing the Ukrainian army of preparing to try and retake the regions by force.


The conflict in eastern Ukraine erupted in 2014 when Moscow-backed rebels broke away from Kyiv and Russia annexed the Crimean peninsula. Some 14,000 people have been killed in fighting since then.


The current head of Russia's emergencies ministry said some 400 people as well as 150 vehicles were involved in operations to receive people arriving from separatist territory.


Emergency services in the Donetsk separatist region said earlier Saturday that just over 6,600 people have been evacuated.


State-run news agency RIA Novosti reported that those crossing checkpoints were being offered medical and psychological support.


The Luhansk region meanwhile said 25,000 people had left of their own accord and convoys were readying to take out an additional 10,000 people.


Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered his government late Friday to give evacuees 10,000 rubles ($129).


Kyiv has repeatedly denied any plans to regain control of separatist-held areas by force.


Russian Region Declares Emergency Over Ukraine Refugees - The Moscow Times

[helge]

Let's hope that there will be no War! These people deserve better.

Si Senor

Nord Stream 2 is a lock Russia has on Central Europe now. Shame on the Danish govt who approved it on their soil

Can't remember your nick, but remember your posts from about 71/2 month ago.

You are so well informed about danish policies, that you must know, that the danish government's wellbeing depends on the mood of the mandates they build their...sandcastle on:

Communists, Socialists and .....The Radical Left !

maybe they are like Germans.

Ha !

We have always been more german than the Germans

Not as much as the swedes though

[helge]

I wonder where UN observers are in all this

Preoccupied with the upcoming US mid terms ?

[panama hat]

Why do people get another nic just to spout the same old bollocks?

Because they've been banned and/or had zero credibility left with their previous ones


But we're still left with the flotsam of 'recent' ones

It's almost like Germany sees no threat from Russia

How dumb can one person get . . . at least Backspit has more company now

I don't now, but speaking in Munich does not ring good

Why? Share your wisdom with us

[bsnub]

How dumb can one person get . . . at least Backspit has more company now

The guy is definitely an idiot, but still nowhere close to skiddy. Ever since Chico left, skiddy is the undisputed #1 forum idiot.

[baldrick]

Vlad is such a useless manager of Russia that his last gasp effort to fool the Russian people is to force them into war as the aggressor

The irony will be the cnuts who have become rich by sucking his cock will then depose him because their access to the western luxuries is being threatened by his desperate actions

[Backspin]

Vlad is such a useless manager of Russia that his last gasp effort to fool the Russian people is to force them into war as the aggressor

The irony will be the cnuts who have become rich by sucking his cock will then depose him because their access to the western luxuries is being threatened by his desperate actions

meh

Billionaire Russian gas trader says U.S. sanctions a badge of honor - Verizon Small Business Essentials Resources

[baldrick]

Not your clickbaited illusions again

Russia does not manufacture any quantity of goods that anybody but those who have no choice will buy

[Backspin]

Not your clickbaited illusions again

Russia does not manufacture any quantity of goods that anybody but those who have no choice will buy

Biggest civil nuclear power exporter in the world. Yandex is the biggest tech startup in Europe. And the 5th biggest search engine. Telegram is the 5th biggest messaging app in the world. Kaspersky is the biggest antivirus in Europe. Ngix is the 3rd biggest server node in the world.

[panama hat]

^ You keep repeating yourself and keep getting slapped across your fat face about the inaccuracy of your info - time to just stop lying, Backspit.

[bsnub]

Russia is a gas station and nothing more.

[panama hat]

I think you'll find that most Ukrainians couldn't give a jot either way, they just want to improve their lives and opportunities.

Which would mean, joining the Russian federation. Anyone with an ounce of determination, moves there anyway for work.

Good Lord, you are thick . . . Yes, everyone moves to Russia for a better life

[OhOh]

The Russian reply to the leaked NaGastan's view of resolving the security guarantees.

Conveniently, the full document.

Press release on submitting a written reaction to the US response concerning security guarantees

17 February 2022 17:00

"On February 17, 2022, US Ambassador to Russia John Sullivan, summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, was handed the following reaction to the earlier received US response to the Russian draft treaty between the Russian Federation and the United States of America on security guarantees:
....."

https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1799157/