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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    What do you mean?

    To avoid all of this an end the war, Russia asked for a security guarantee from Nato and the US.

    NATO rejects Russian demands for security guarantees in latest round of talks - ABC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Do you really believe the troops Russia is putting in Donbass are "peacekeepers"?

    Donbass is part of Ukraine regardless of what Putin says.

    The narrative as followed by you was that there has been Russian troops in the Donbass since 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The Donbass is not joining Russia. Wtf are you talking about
    Are you drunk? I never mentioned Donbas you imbecile. I dont know if you are dyslexic dumb or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    For the sake of democracy please boycott this thread and post at:

    Ukraine - more Putin posturing or a genuine threat to invade?

    I don't want Skidmark to get a hard on

    Thank you
    Better still the mods could save all this pissing about and create one "Ukraine Crisis" thread.

    And delete any others that witless fucks open up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Looking very clever now aren't you? Not. Another US Fail.
    Only a clueless fucking moron would try and blame the US for Putin invading Ukraine again.

    Are you trying to out-Skidmark Skidmark?

    If so, it's working.

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    The Ukraine is at the very least in the Ruslan sphere of influence .
    I have not been following this very closely but it seems like the West and NATO has been attempting to exert influence in the region , I wonder how the US would react toward Canada or Mexico if Russia were trying to exert influence in Canada or Mexico. and they were considering alliances with Russia .
    IMAs of January 2021, Ukraine is preparing to formally apply for EU membership in 2024, in order to join the European Union in the 2030s. the Ukraine should had known this would happen, and should had stayed neutral until it was powerful enough .
    I read that .
    "As of January 2021, Ukraine is preparing to formally apply for EU membership in 2024, in order to join the European Union in the 2030s. "
    If that is true . is it possible for a country to be a member of the EU and not a member of EU military agreements ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Are you drunk? I never mentioned Donbas you imbecile. I dont know if you are dyslexic dumb or both.
    Nato is flying in weapons 24/7 into the same territory that Napoleon and Hitler used to invade Russia, and at the same time, would not write up a simple security guarantee.

    NATO rejects Russian demands for security guarantees in latest round of talks - ABC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Early days , aside from vendors and arms another European war is a lose lose.I guess good for Israel, India and China who can ignore and trade with all sidesLet's save the persona abuse for the DH

    From the Mongols to Napoleon to the Ottomans to the Germans to the Brits to the Nazis and now the Americans ;every empire of the day seems to find a reason to stage their military on Russia's western border.


    Nato was flying weapons into Ukraine 24/7 -the same place that Napoleon and Hitler used to attack here-and would not write a simple security guarantee.

    NATO rejects Russian demands for security guarantees in latest round of talks - ABC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Better still the mods could save all this pissing about and create one "Ukraine Crisis" thread.

    And delete any others that witless fucks open up.

    Ukraine war mega thread would suffice.

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    Russia has rebuilt its forex reserves to new all time highs. Bring on the sanctions. As if Russia was going to allow a hostile military force to set up shop in Ukraine for the 100 years over some sanctions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    Are NATO deployed in Syria?
    NaGastan, a NATO country, remains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    He's itching for a war
    No invasion into Ukraine as of now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Nato is flying in weapons 24/7 into the same territory that Napoleon and Hitler used to invade Russia,
    For Ukranians to defend themselves from invading Russians you idiot. Nobody is invading Russia. Do you seriously think Ukraine would entertain the thought of invading Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    He's itching for a war
    No invasion into Ukraine as of now.
    See above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    NaGastan, a NATO country, remains.

    I think you mean "Putin continues to prop up dictator".

    Stupid boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    No invasion into Ukraine as of now.
    See above.
    Russian troops sent into Ukraine.

    Yes, that is an invasion.

    Go home Russian scum!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    If that is true . is it possible for a country to be a member of the EU and not a member of EU military agreements ?
    The EU don't exactly have much of a military, so that's irrelevant.

    Putin isn't "worried about being invaded", he's trying to reclaim countries that escaped the clutches of the Soviet scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Ukraine war mega thread would suffice.
    It is not mega and there is no war. Just you being a provocative war monger, and a sad, poorly educated one at that.
    Back up and bugger off. Shit stirring because you are a child who needs constant attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    It's the Russians who are invading Ukraine.
    Not as yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    BUT IT'S STILL LAWFULLY UKRAINE.
    Democracy has spoken. The Donetsk and Luhansk democratically elected governments have requested Russian assistance to stop the genocide being acted apon them by the puppet Ukraine entity.

    Russia has accepted and plans to send peacekeepers.

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    That is correct.
    No Russian invasion, yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Now Russia has invaded the Ukraine
    No Russian invasion, yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Anyone who thinks this isn't an invasion needs to give their head a shake.
    The Donetsk and Luhansk democratically elected governments have requested Russian assistance to stop the genocide being acted on them by the puppet Ukraine entity.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    If you really think the sanctions coming will hurt europe as much as Russia
    Ah the "sanctions".

    One wonders what and when they will be announced, who they will hurt and whether when NaGastan will stop importing Russian refined oil products.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Russian GDP has declined since 2013
    A source would be more persuasive than your opinion, just to verifying your allegation.

    Russian GDP:

    Ukraine war mega thread-russia-gdp-2x-jpg

    Russia GDP - 2021 Data - 2022 Forecast - 1988-2020 Historical - Chart - News

    Russian GDP per capita PPP


    Ukraine war mega thread-russia-gdp-per-capita-ppp-2x

    https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.ne...08&d1=19970228

    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Do you really believe the troops Russia is putting in Donbass are "peacekeepers"?
    Until proven otherwise, one should accept the only current factual proof, THE LORDS words.

    Donbass is part of Ukraine regardless of what Putin says.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Russia has sent troops into a sovereign nation
    Peacekeepers, unless you have proof otherwise to post

    Possibly to the democratically elected countries, Donetsk and Luhanskand, with which their governments Russia has diplomatic relations with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The EU don't exactly have much of a military, so that's irrelevant.

    Putin isn't "worried about being invaded", he's trying to reclaim countries that escaped the clutches of the Soviet scum.

    He was fine with Ukraine being independent. Not fine with Ukraine being a US/Nato military base. Which is what changed in 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    For Ukranians to defend themselves from invading Russians you idiot. Nobody is invading Russia. Do you seriously think Ukraine would entertain the thought of invading Russia?
    From 1991 to 2014, the Ukraine/Russia border was quiet. Russia took Crimea back AFTER the US moved in and began the NATO accession plans in 2014.

    if Ukraine under NATO isn't going to attack Russia , then how about a security guarantee?

    NATO rejects Russian demands for security guarantees in latest round of talks - ABC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    How is this an invasion ? It's not an invasion. Do you think the Donbass is joining Russia or something ? It isn't

    & should the US do something about it ?
    According to your thread, it’s a “mega war”.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, NATO is not surrounding Russia. The real people on the ground do not want or need a war. Putin is trying to exercise what little power he has left by keeping Russian forces close to the border. He’s pretending to be a magician, pulling rabbits out of a hat. He’s really rather tiresome inventing a potential war threat.
    The west will not cave in, no matter what the tin pot dictator tries to pull. He is a bluffing cunter, just like you are an attention whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    if Ukraine under NATO isn't going to attack Russia , then how about a security guarantee?
    Ukraine is being invaded by Russia, which is proof they should belong to NATO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    From 1991 to 2014, the Ukraine/Russia border was quiet. Russia took Crimea back AFTER the US moved in and began the NATO accession plans in 2014.

    if Ukraine under NATO isn't going to attack Russia , then how about a security guarantee?

    NATO rejects Russian demands for security guarantees in latest round of talks - ABC News
    This has already been explained to you. It’s not up to Putin, or you. It’s a choice that Ukraine must make firstly. Then they have to wait and see if NATO accepts their application.
    Nothing is guaranteed, neither the application, or the acceptance. Move on and stop repeating your nonsense.

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    Putin's address to the Russians - broadcast

    February 21, 2022 - 22:35





    In Russian, but subtitle translation available into your language of choice.

    Nearly an hour long.

    However, no noticeable breaks, for diaper changes, ice creams or sniffing young girl's hair.

    Official transcript, in English, available here:

    Address by the President of the Russian Federation • President of Russia
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