Ukraine war mega thread

[misskit]

Ukraine Warns Donetsk Evacuees: You May Be Killed if You Leave on Buses

As Russian-backed separatist leaders hurriedly evacuated tens of thousands of civilians from Ukraine’s occupied territories on Friday, the government in Kyiv warned evacuees they were being used in a potentially deadly ploy to justify a Russian military offensive—and that they might be blown up if they get on the evacuation buses. The buses “might be fired on by the occupying authorities,” Ukrainian presidential adviser Mikhail Podolyak told The Insider. Leaders in the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics are “creating the conditions necessary for provocations. That is why we are calling on all peaceful citizens of Donetsk, Luhansk, and other cities in the occupied territories to not take part in this propaganda spectacle by the occupiers and to try and stay away from any of these so-called evacuations,” he said. His comments came as similar warnings from Ukrainian authorities were circulated on social media, telling citizens: “Don’t get on the buses!” The warnings urged residents to find their own way out if they wanted to evacuate, rather than take buses they said may come under shelling by separatist forces. Ominously, a Telegram channel run for and by separatists circulated a statement saying evacuees are indeed going to be targeted. “The Ukrainians are preparing a provocation. The SBU and the Armed Forces are developing a plan to shell a bus with evacuating women and children,” the separatists claimed.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrain...t-on-the-buses

[Joe 90]

A manufactured crisis.

[Backspin]

City of Dokuchaevsk (donetsk) is under mortar fire

(imo the war is going to start again)

[sabang]

If it's heavy, time to send in Russian artillery and air support. I'm afraid it is justified, if only on humanitarian grounds- they are deliberately shelling fleeing civilians.

[Backspin]

LPR reports that the Ukrainian forces fired twenty-four 120mm shells -- prohibited under the Minsk agreement -- at Novotoshkovsky and Trekhizbenka.

[kingwilly]

Either you are a Troll, stupid, or a heartless twat, or maybe all three.

All three.

[kingwilly]

If it's heavy, time to send in Russian artillery and air support. I'm afraid it is justified, if only on humanitarian grounds- they are deliberately shelling fleeing civilians.

[bsnub]

The Three Stooges are doing the dirty work here in falsely trying to justify this war, which is clearly being started by Russia. Truly reprehensible behavior.

[Backspin]

The Three Stooges are doing the dirty work here in falsely trying to justify this war, which is clearly being started by Russia. Truly reprehensible behavior.

This whole conflict was 110% started by the US in 2014. Ukraine and Russia were at peace from 1991 till 2014.

Stratfor chief's "most blatant coup in history" interview from Dec. 2014 - New Cold War: Know Better

[Backspin]

If it's heavy, time to send in Russian artillery and air support. I'm afraid it is justified, if only on humanitarian grounds- they are deliberately shelling fleeing civilians.

The Donbass will be able to hold its own for a good while. Putin won't do anything until he has to.

[baldrick]

Putin won't do anything until he has to.

He will

deliberately shelling fleeing civilians.

Because that is the sort of cnut that vlad is

[harrybarracuda]

The Three Stooges are doing the dirty work here in falsely trying to justify this war, which is clearly being started by Russia. Truly reprehensible behavior.

Nah, they're just copying bullshit they read elsewhere thinking they look clever instead of stupid little trolls.
Which doesn't work.

[harrybarracuda]

I think you'll find that most Ukrainians couldn't give a jot either way, they just want to improve their lives and opportunities.

I think they'd prefer not to be invaded by a murderous, thieving dictator though.

They've all read how Putin treats anyone who opposes him.

[sabang]

Time to trigger the usual bedwetters. This from a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury-


I am convinced that the only way a dangerous war can be avoided is if:

— Putin accepts the vote of the Donbass Russians for their homelands to return to Russia
— Putin makes it clear that Ukraine will be destroyed if the country becomes a NATO member
— Putin makes it clear that any US or NATO missile base put in Ukraine will be destroyed
— Putin makes it clear that US missile bases on its borders will be destroyed if not removed
— Putin provides Iran with the conventional missiles to defend its air space
— Russia ignores the West and globalism and creates a Russian-Chinese trade bloc

Washington constantly warns Europe of a dangerous Russia, but once Europe sees decisive Russian action, Europe will cease to cooperate in baiting the Bear. Russia’s attitude should be that Europe can purchase Russian energy priced in rubles or gold if they want it, but otherwise the West can go to hell.

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/17/negotiations-have-got-russia-nowhere/

[recon]

Thanks for the link. I wasn't even nearly aware of the things he did and stood for.

[harrybarracuda]

Time to trigger the usual bedwetters. This from a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury-

Why do you think anyone is going to be triggered by you posting more rubbish from a fellow Putin arselicker and whackjob conspiracy theorist?

I mean it's not as if it's anything new.

[sabang]

Yawwwn.



"We have heard excessively about 150,000 invasion troops allegedly assembled on Ukraine’s border with Russia. We have not heard about 150,000 British and US trained Ukrainian troops on the border of the Donbass republics. We have not heard about the massive arms that the West has sent to Ukraine or about the CIA trained neo-Nazi militias. If we hear anything, we hear that these Ukrainian forces are there to protect against a Russian invasion, a statement that is nonsensical.

Why would the Ukrainian forces be concentrated on the Donbass border? The Russians would simply come in behind them, and the Ukrainians would be trapped between the Russians and the Donbass forces. How is it possible that US and UK military advisers would make such a mistake?

The Saker reports that the latest information from Donbass is that the Ukrainians are using UR-77 mine clearing vehicles to clear mines from the Donbass border. This is the operation that is conducted just prior to a ground attack.

It would seem that if any invasion is planned, it is a Ukrainian invasion of Donbass calculated to bring the Russians in. The report of an invasion of Donbass would be labeled a Russian false flag attack, and the Russian intervention would become the predicted invasion. If anything happens, I think I have described it."

Washington Has Prepared an Invasion Narrative - PaulCraigRoberts.org

[sabang]

PCR's status as former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury should not be confused with your status as an assistant secretary 'arry. Show some respect for your betters.

Paul Craig Roberts has had careers in scholarship and academia, journalism, public service, and business. He is chairman of The Institute for Political Economy.

Dr. Roberts has held numerous academic appointments including the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy in the Center for Strategic and International Studies. He has contributed chapters to numerous books and has published many articles in journals of scholarship. He has testified before committees of Congress on 30 occasions.

Dr. Roberts was associate editor and columnist for The Wall Street Journal and columnist for Business Week and the Scripps Howard News Service. He was a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate in Los Angeles. In 1992 he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 1993 the Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of the top seven journalists in the United States.

President Reagan appointed Dr. Roberts Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and he was confirmed in office by the U.S. Senate. From 1975 to 1978, Dr. Roberts served on the congressional staff where he drafted the Kemp-Roth bill and played a leading role in developing bipartisan support for a supply-side economic policy. After leaving the Treasury, he served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense and the U.S. Department of Commerce.

Dr. Roberts was awarded the Treasury Department’s Meritorious Service Award for “his outstanding contributions to the formulation of United States economic policy.”

In 1987 the French government recognized him as “the artisan of a renewal in economic science and policy after half a century of state interventionism” and inducted him into the Legion of Honor.

He is listed in Who’s Who in America and Who’s Who in the World.

[harrybarracuda]

PCR's status as former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury should not be confused with your status as an assistant secretary 'arry. Show some respect for your betters.

You really are a gormless fucking twat.

He is a total space cadet.

Roberts added that "No German plans, or orders from Hitler, or from Himmler or anyone else have ever been found for an organized holocaust by gas and cremation of Jews... The "death camps" were in fact work camps. Auschwitz, for example, today a Holocaust museum, was the site of Germany's essential artificial rubber factory. Germany was desperate for a work force."

He has also stated that the Charlie Hebdo shooting has many of the characteristics of a false flag operation" motivated in part “to stifle the growing European sympathy for the Palestinians and to realign Europe with Israel”.

He's more of a retarded nutter than you are.

[harrybarracuda]

Yawwwn.



"We have heard excessively about 150,000 invasion troops allegedly assembled on Ukraine’s border with Russia. We have not heard about 150,000 British and US trained Ukrainian troops on the border of the Donbass republics.

That's because you are quoting a putin arselicker and whackjob and you're too stupid to notice.

[sabang]

Show some respect for your superiors, assistant secretary.

[sabang]

Have you made Ahmed his morning coffee yet boy?

[harrybarracuda]

Have you made Ahmed his morning coffee yet boy?

And of we go at the usual inane tangent.

Fucked again sabang?

[harrybarracuda]

Show some respect for your superiors, assistant secretary.

At Treasury, you stupid boy.

Do you even know what they do?

[recon]

I'm sorry I'm confused. Who is on US/UK side, who is on EU side, who is on Russian side and is there Chinese side? And what do you want? I read the last 100000000 messages but I can't still figure it out. Just land of confusion. Is this all bloody maskirovka?