Ukraine war mega thread

[NamPikToot]

^ yes, and running cars but at least 4 types of demand will significantly reduce and stm Russia has nothing to replace that lost revenue, and it will be a lot of lost revenue

[panama hat]

Russia has no decent manufacturing nor service sectors, they are like an African nation = reliant on natural resources. It's a third world/developing nation.

Go on ,OhWoe . . . find us ten examples of 'Made in Russia' that everyone is running for.

[bsnub]

As has been stated before, Russia is just a gas station and nothing more.

[harrybarracuda]

I'm suggesting that with climate change commitments made by its current customers, Russia will be facing a significant reduction in demand and that will be in the next 10 years. The question remains, what will Russia do to replace the lost revenue or do you think they can return to the days of dividing loaves and fishes to feed those whos day it is to queue up for rations.

Why would Putin give a crap. Him and his mates have tens of billions stashed away.

[NamPikToot]

^ quite and as usual its the proletariat who'll suffer

[bsnub]

tens of billions stashed away.

More than that, I would guess.

[sabang]

[bsnub]

If you continue to be a whingy apologist who sucks up to his master like OhDoh does you might get invited to the 2 billion dollar palace...



... The one that the Kremlin claims doesn't exist.

[HermantheGerman]

NATO has been moving eastward since the reunification of Germany.

Let me re-phrase that for you:

"Former Soviet Allies and neighbors are moving away from Russia."
Just wonder why?

[NamPikToot]

You'd imagine its going to be bleak for the 100k Russian soldiers camped out through winter whilst Putin enjoys xmas and NY

[sabang]

^^ Never enuff bluddy lebensraum, e'hhh Herman.

[HermantheGerman]

You'd imagine its going to be bleak for the 100k Russian soldiers camped out through winter whilst Putin enjoys xmas and NY

Maybe OhOh can give us an update of the mothers protesting in Moscow against Putin'ss order


and maybe our Tin soldier Sabang can give us some insights on what's it like "chilling in the fields"

[sabang]

Using a typically dishonest 'western' map, here is what this trumped up storm in a teacup is actually all about-




The Russian 'seperatist areas' are tiny, a small fragment of Ukraine. Yep, this is what the tubthumping is really all about, how exciting. Real WW3 stuff, e'hhh.

And those Russian troops 'massed at the border' are actually about 200km from the border. Real white knuckle stuff.

Notice how Crimea is still shown as being part of Ukraine. Note too that actually Crimea and Ukraine are linked by a narrow isthmus- but on this map the 'border' between the two is shown as a solid land mass- actually it is +90% water. Do they really think we are so stupid?

[NamPikToot]

Cartographers eh

[sabang]

Anyone like Oliver Stone? I do, which is probably why this documentary is both informative, and entertaining-

[bsnub]

The Russian 'seperatist areas' are tiny, a small fragment of Ukraine.

What you gloss over is the scumbag donbass "rebels" have made those red areas in your map uninhabitable.



Clearly, you only watch things that are approved by your propaganda handlers. Pathetic.

[sabang]

I do like Oliver Stone- y'know Platoon, Wall St, The Doors, Natural Born Killers, Nixon etc etc. Ukraine on Fire is a worthy addition to his pantheon- watch it snubs, you might learn something.


** Watch Stone's Revealing Ukraine too, if you can get it (I can't).

[HermantheGerman]

The Russian 'seperatist areas' are tiny, a small fragment of Ukraine. Yep, this is what the tubthumping is really all about, how exciting. Real WW3 stuff, e'hhh.
And those Russian troops 'massed at the border' are actually about 200km from the border. Real white knuckle stuff.

Very good Sabang! You almost figured it out yourself. Now give your brain a booster shot and think why there are so any ruskys at the Ukraine border. Think you can figure it out?
I give you a hint. If those ruskys would only invade the "small fragment of the Ukraine", they would literally step on each others feet and smell each others vodka mouth odor.

[NamPikToot]

HTG are your lot going to front up for once? or are you going to hide behind others skirts looking after your industrial base

[sabang]

You mean those Russian troops massed 200km from the border Herman?

[Backspin]

If you continue to be a whingy apologist who sucks up to his master like OhDoh does you might get invited to the 2 billion dollar palace...



... The one that the Kremlin claims doesn't exist.

That one has been debunked

[Backspin]

What you gloss over is the scumbag donbass "rebels" have made those red areas in your map uninhabitable.



Clearly, you only watch things that are approved by your propaganda handlers. Pathetic.

Vice Media Gets $250 Million in Debt Funding From George Soros

Vice Media Gets $250 Million in Debt Funding From George Soros, Others - Variety

[Backspin]

He's too stupid to know why.



Seriously, why do you do that all the time, simply lie and then either dig in or just leave to drop another shit elsewhere . . .


Ukraine - Trade - European Commission

You are stupid. If you want to compare trade bloc to trade bloc, the Eurasian Economic Union is Ukraine's biggest trade partner. Not the EU.

[bsnub]

That one has been debunked

Bullshit.

Vice Media Gets $250 Million in Debt Funding From George Soros

More disingenuous posting from you. Nice to see that you cut off the last part of that title you lying propagandist fool. The actual title of the article...

Vice Media Gets $250 Million in Debt Funding From George Soros, Other Investors

From your link...

The company’s new debt financing was led by 23 Capital, a financing firm focused exclusively on sports, music and entertainment sectors, with participation by Soros Fund Management, Fortress Investment Group and Monroe Capital, as first reported by the Wall Street Journal Friday.

The video I posted speaks for itself and is not disputable. You are a full stop phony who posts up nothing but shit and outright falsehoods.

[Hugh Cow]

Anyway, forget Crimea- that's done and dusted. Eastern Ukraine/ Donbass republic is the flashpoint now, and has been for a while. This area does not have the convenient 'autonomous republic' status that Crimea possessed, and thus no recognised Parliament. But what the People there want seems pretty clear. I hear this talk of self determination and democracy, and I agree- so lets walk the walk, not just talk the talk, and let the People decide- but I'm pretty sure you will find that is the last thing that both neo-Ukraine and the USA want.

The problem is they are ethnic Russians not Ukrainians. They have no historic claim to the land any more than the Russians in the crimea that displaced the tartars who were forcibly removed by Stalin. They cannot survive as an autonomous republic and will be "absorbed" as part of Russia. For any part of Ukrainian territory to be ceded to Russia, which affects all Ukrainians, this would require a referendum voted on by all Ukrainian citizens, not just a few ethnic Russians that dont want to assimilate in a country they migrated to.
It must be remembered that Ukraine gave up its' nuclear weapons for a treaty with the major powers including Russia all promising to respect Ukraines territorial integrity/sovereignity.