Ukraine war mega thread

[russellsimpson]

In fairness this could well be the long terms effects of the liver damage which he would have incurred with the Novichalk poisoning.

So, what's to be done ?

If Putin resigned would that be enough for him to knock off the hunger strike?

How about if the nation offered to fly him to any destiny of his choice provided he foregoes his Russian citizenship?

In my mind the truth is that he would be happy to die here and now as a martyr, which may be what will happen, and soon.

[Klondyke]

The western media are already screaching "what about Navalny!,"what about Navalny!"

What about the millions of other incarcerated on both sides of the ocean?

Nobody asks what is happening with those who were incited by Trump on 6th January? (But we rather worry about Uighurs...)

[russellsimpson]

(But we rather worry about Uighurs...)

So, O.K.?

What about the Uighurs?

[Backspin]

In fairness this could well be the long terms effects of the liver damage which he would have incurred with the Novichalk poisoning.

So, what's to be done ?

If Putin resigned would that be enough for him to knock off the hunger strike?

How about if the nation offered to fly him to any destiny of his choice provided he foregoes his Russian citizenship?

In my mind the truth is that he would be happy to die here and now as a martyr, which may be what will happen, and soon.

That's the exact thing I think they should do. Trade him to Turkey. It could be done. But some ppl say Putin actually likes this dog and pony show because its so obvious that Navalny is a US sponsored project. And he likes it to be exposed. I disagree with that sentiment. He is a liability and should be shut down

[russellsimpson]

But some ppl say Putin actually likes this dog and pony show because its so obvious that Navalny is a US sponsored project.

I somehow don't think that Putin indulges in such time wasting habits. I could always be wrong.

It's almost as though Navalny is begging the state to send him off.

I always sense a strong Martyr Complex with Navalny. Rather than leading a revolution he should probably be leading himself into the nearest shrinks office.

[Backspin]

https://tass.com/world/1281335

Prague to expel more diplomats should Moscow fail to bring Czech embassy employees back

PRAGUE, April 21. /TASS/. Newly-appointed Czech Minister Jakub Kulhanek expressed his protest to Russian Ambassador Alexander Zmeyevsky over Russia’s decision to expel 20 employees of Czech Embassy, demanding that Russia return them back. Prague will await Russia’s decision until 13:00 Moscow time Thursday, the top diplomat told journalists.
"All expelled employees of the Czech Embassy must be brought back to their positions ni Moscow. We will wait for [Moscow’s] decision until 12:00 [local time] Thursday. Should this decision not be made, we will initiate the option of achievement of parity of the number of [embassy] employees," Kulhanek said.

[russellsimpson]

"All expelled employees of the Czech Embassy must be brought back to their positions ni Moscow. We will wait for [Moscow’s] decision until 12:00 [local time] Thursday. Should this decision not be made, we will initiate the option of achievement of parity of the number of [embassy] employees," Kulhanek said.

A clear ultimatum with a very short fuse. I can save the Czechs the wait. It ain't going to happen comrades.

This is kind of pointless tit-for-tat bullshit, full of sound and fury and all that.

[OhOh]

How about if the nation offered to fly him to any destiny of his choice provided he foregoes his Russian citizenship?

Already happened, the "fly him to any destiny of his choice", bit - Germany.

He chose the martyr route.

More Bad Journalism on Russia

April 21, 2021

It appears his Russian citizen supporters are melting away.

[Klondyke]

But Bellingcat (the independent investigators) helped to discover Russian involvement (highly likely) in an explosion 6 years ago, 2 same agents who were filmed in Salisbury looking for Skripals (where are they now, BTW?).
So, why not to believe them?

[OhOh]

(where are they now, BTW?).

Allegedly there now in Siberia studying how to modify Russian black fly as a virus spreading tool.

The Sussex countryside doesn't offer the same opportunities as Northern Asia.

[misskit]

Russia to Withdraw Troops From Ukraine Border, Crimea


Russia will begin withdrawing its military forces from the Ukrainian border starting Friday, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced Thursday, after the buildup had raised alarms in the West of renewed clashes.


Speaking during snap readiness exercises in annexed Crimea, Shoigu ordered the general staff of the armed forces, military chiefs and the airborne troops to begin returning to their home bases from the Russian-Ukrainian border and Crimea starting April 23.


“I believe that the goals of the snap inspection have been fully achieved,” Interfax quoted Shoigu as saying. “The troops demonstrated the ability to reliably defend the country.”


“In this regard, I have decided to complete the Southern and Western military district reviews,” he added.

Facing accusations of massing more than 100,000 troops in the region, Russia’s military said it had blocked flights and closed off navigation in parts of the Black Sea and Crimea for drills.


It previously announced some 4,000 maneuvers across Russia’s 11 timezones for so-called “winter period control checks” throughout the month of April.


Shoigu ordered ground forces to return to their bases in Vladikavkaz and Novosibirsk, as well as airborne units to Pskov, Ivanovo and the Krasnodar region, by May 1. The minister ordered military chiefs to “analyze the snap inspections in all levels of management and draw up a plan to eliminate shortcomings,” according to Interfax.


Analysts have cast doubt on theories that Russia was planning a covert invasion of Ukraine with its visible deployment of units, which include warships, modern armor and attack aircraft.


Some observers have characterized Russia’s moves as military posturing, with the Kremlin signaling its escalation capabilities to the new Biden administration while the United States seeks predictable relations with Russia and Ukraine lobbies for more Western support.


Ruble rises
The ruble immediately jumped on the news, climbing 1% against major currencies in Moscow trading. The climb took the ruble to a week-high of 75.7 against the U.S. dollar.


Russian stocks also got a lift, surging 2% to erase three days of losses which had been racked up ahead of Putin's highly-anticipated state of the nation address and pro-Navalny protests Wednesday. Investors will see the pullback as a sign Russia is taking steps to de-escalate the situation in Ukraine — an encouraging sign for Russian markets, which are prone to lurching higher and lower in response to geopolitical developments.

Russia to Withdraw Troops From Ukraine Border, Crimea - The Moscow Times

[OhOh]

Better news.

Good news:

[russellsimpson]

Yes, very good news. Good on Russia.

What will the Americans do in return?

Can the eagle and the bear be friends?

[Klondyke]

Yes, very good news. Good on Russia.

What will the Americans do in return?

As usually, sanctions...

[russellsimpson]

Nope, let's draw a line here and now.

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______.

Starting fresh here let us consider the slate cleaned and going forward note who the aggressive party is.

For now all quiet on the Eastern front.

[bsnub]

Starting fresh here let us consider the slate cleaned and going forward note who the aggressive party is.

It is obvious to any rational thinking person who the aggressor is. Russia invaded Ukraine ffs. The evidence is overwhelming that Russian Army members crossed the boarder and fought alongside Donbass rebels. Russian Spetsnaz sniper teams are still there killing Ukrainian soldiers.

But you keep swallowing that RT propaganda lemming.

[russellsimpson]

It is obvious to any rational thinking person who the aggressor is. Russia invaded Ukraine ffs. The evidence is overwhelming that Russian Army members crossed the boarder and fought alongside Donbass rebels. Russian Spetsnaz sniper teams are still there killing Ukrainian soldiers.

I wish it were but it's never that simple Snubby.

[sabang]

Thus endeth the Ukraine was never gonna be war micro thread. With a whimper.

[bsnub]

I wish it were but it's never that simple Snubby.

Add another to the Putin propaganda knob polishing club. Take a chair next to Klondyke, sabang, Ohdoh and Backspit.

[russellsimpson]

I think we all know where you, KW, Harry and Cujo stand on all issues. Have I missed anyone? Included Cujo who maybe isn't a paid up member?

Gentlemen, your tents have been folded.

Your little club no longer exists.

Details will be forthcoming in the near future.

Thank you.



Here Leith.

[russellsimpson]

Add another to the Putin propaganda knob polishing club. Take a chair next to Klondyke, sabang, Ohdoh and Backspit.

Not anymore clown, go fark yourself.

[bsnub]

I suggest you go back and read the first page of the thread. It was started by backspit a fellow propagandist like yourself. He tried and failed to kick the thread off insinuating that little Ukraine was trying to start a war with Russia you utter imbecile. Nice to see you apologist fucktards are trying to flip the narrative now.

[sabang]

but it's never that simple Snubby

Oh but it's always that simple to snubby- just like his mind. Drink the government kool-aid, and no need to think for oneself.

[russellsimpson]

Thus endeth the Ukraine was never gonna be war micro thread. With a whimper.

Happy to put that to bed.

I'll bet there are a few on here who won't be happy.( ie. the former Mutt Pack. (2012-2021))

[russellsimpson]