Ukraine war mega thread

[russellsimpson]

[russellsimpson]

Reference maps.

[Backspin]

Quite the bully . . . don't you hate it when the big boys use their military muscle to get their way and push others around . . .

Crying victim after Russia responds.

[russellsimpson]

^So you think this in retaliation for the sanctions ?

I'm not so sure.

Not normally the way the diplomatic game is played.

I could be wrong.

[bsnub]

Crying victim after Russia responds.

Russia is the fucking aggressor here you utter fuckwit.

[panama hat]

Crying victim after Russia responds.

^So you think this in retaliation for the sanctions ?

He doesn't think - he's a moron

[OhOh]

I wonder how long that closure has been planned for?

Since the Ukrainian parliament declared war on Russia,

Ukraine Declares All Options Possible, Even War, To Retake Crimea From Russia

"According to Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council Decree no. 117/2021, Ukraine has committed to putting all options on the table to taking back control over the Russian annexed Crimea region.

Signed on March 24, President Zelensky has committed the country to pursue strategies that Ukrinform reports “will prepare and implement measures to ensure the de-occupation and reintegration of the peninsula.”

Ukraine Declares All Options Possible, Even War, To Retake Crimea From Russia – The Organization for World Peace

Ukraine To Regain 'Occupied Territory' in Crimea and Sevastopol | News | teleSUR English

Since the decision by Russia to build a bridge,

Since Russia signed the lease agreement ....

[Backspin]

Russia is the fucking aggressor here you utter fuckwit.

Who's the aggressor has already been established.

Richard Sakwa , Eurasia specialist at the university of Kent believes the conflicts in the post-Soviet space are to be explained by the aggressive expansion of the Western, “Atlantic” model eastward. ”In his opinion, the culmination of this process has been the Ukrainian crisis, which has “created a new and irreparable line across the heart of the continent”

In response to the classic Russian question “Who’s to blame?” the author’s answer is unequivocal:the countries of the West,as a whole, and the USA and NATO,in particular.

[panama hat]

Russia is the fucking aggressor here you utter fuckwit.

Who's the aggressor has already been established.

Exactly. Russia. Finally you admit it.


You and Skidmark should breed so the world can laugh

Since the Ukrainian parliament declared war on Russia,

The next sentence:

Ukraine Declares All Options Possible, Even War, To Retake Crimea From Russia

You're not only thick but also disingenuous to the extreme

[Backspin]

^So you think this in retaliation for the sanctions ?

I'm not so sure.

Not normally the way the diplomatic game is played.

I could be wrong.

People in the know are implying that it was yeah. Russia said there would be a swift response.

Here is Ben Aris. Editor at BNE Intellinews. He's not a fan of Putin
https://twitter.com/bneeditor/status...729730566?s=19

[Backspin]

Exactly. Russia. Finally you admit it.


You and Skidmark should breed so the world can laugh


The next sentence:


You're not only thick but also disingenuous to the extreme

Richard Sakwa , Eurasia specialist at the university of Kent says that the conflicts in the post-Soviet space are to be explained by the aggressive expansion of the Western, “Atlantic” model eastward.

[panama hat]

People in the know are implying

. . . phwoaaaahhh . . . and even backed up by a twitter post:

https://twitter.com/bneeditor/status...729730566?s=19

Facts!

[lom]

In response to the classic Russian question “Who’s to blame?” the author’s answer is unequivocal:the countries of the West,as a whole, and the USA and NATO,in particular.

They were invited by the Ukranian government.

Richard Sakwa , Eurasia specialist at the university of Kent says that the conflicts in the post-Soviet space are to be explained by the aggressive expansion of the Western, “Atlantic” model eastward.

Again, they were invited. Ask Klondyke if you want to know how that works out.

[sabang]

Seems like a fairly logical response actually. The Kerch Strait is Russian territory, not international waters, and Russia has every right to close it- especially to someone it doesn't like.

So Ukrainian squeals of outrage will be greeted by smiles in the Kremlin. If Russia really wanted to set the cat among the pigeons, they would start messing with the natural gas they supply, which Ukraine has enormous reliance upon as a transhipment point. Fortunately they have stopped short of that.

[Klondyke]

They were invited by the Ukranian government.

Again, they were invited. Ask Klondyke if you want to know how that works out.

Isn't it wonderful to be invited by so many countries worldwide?
And in all that countries worldwide they have to fight not only for the security of the host but also for their own...

[helge]

They were invited by the Ukranian government.

Do I remember correctly, if I say that the parlament in Georgia sent out an invite too.

Wasn't that politely refused ?

Would it have been wise to accept ?


Can't remember it

[Backspin]

They were invited by the Ukranian government.



Again, they were invited. Ask Klondyke if you want to know how that works out.

Cuba was invited to and had every right to host Russian nuclear ballistic missiles. How did that work out ? We were one Russian democratic vote away from the end of the world.

There was talk of Russia reopening it's Cuba bases in 2018. The only one holding the hardliners back from doing this again is Putin. Putin will eventually have to cave and we will have the Cuban missile crisis all over again. Because you know , Cuba has the right to host Russian nuclear ballistic missiles


Cold War Coming Back? Russia 'Assessing' Military Base in Cuba as U.S. Set to Leave Nuclear Missile Deal

[Backspin]

Venezuela also has the sovereign right to host Russian nuclear ballistic missiles. It is hard to understand why Russia hasn't done this in both Cuba and Venezuela yet. If the US is crossing Russia's red lines in its neighborhood then Russia should do the same and turn up the heat in the US's neighborhood.

It will happen eventually. So far Russia just put in a military helicopter training center. No missiles yet.

Russia Opens Military Center in Venezuela, Defying U.S. Threats

[pickel]

Are there American nuclear missiles in Ukraine socal?

[helge]

Are there American nuclear missiles in Ukraine socal?

Depends on which american navy vessels harbours up in Odessa.

But they won't tell us if they are carrying.

Would you ?

[pickel]

Do nuclear armed Russian ships dock in Cuba?

Ukraine is already loaded with nukes. They got them from Russia.

[helge]

Do nuclear armed Russian ships dock in Cuba?

How would I know ?

Do you ?

Ukraine is already loaded with nukes. They got them from Russia.

Really ?

I thought they made a deal with Ukraine some 25 years ago

No nukes

[misskit]

[helge]

Nice vintage cars in Cuba

Are you trying to make a point, Misskit

[misskit]

Russian warship with cruise missiles docked in Havana. Ninety miles from Florida. Russian subs and ships are in the Gulf of Mexico from time to time as well as their aircraft flying over.