Thread: The U.K and the E.U - In or out?

Originally Posted by ENT

R U polling in or out, Bobby.......?

I still don't know. The sheer economic, mathematical, legal, historical and political ignorance of the outers repulses me, I dislike both liars and fools, but I'm trying not to let my dislike of those people affect my decision in one of the most important votes of the last 50 years. By instinct I'm a Europhile and I strongly believe that the EU could and should be one of the most positive organisations for peace, security, and prosperity in European history Some here call it the 4th Reich, weasel words as they know full well that to most non-Germans the word Reich only conjures up images of Swastikas, but if I must use their words then I look to the First Reich, the Holy Roman Empire, and see nothing wrong with that.

But clearly something has gone horribly wrong, Europe has lost, or almost lost, its cultural and historical identity (shown in a small way on this forum by the utter ignorance of many posters when commenting on the current situation) but I do not believe that that has anything to do with the EU, I believe that the weakness of Europe today is because we are now on the second generation of mollycoddled, selfish, and ill-educated buffoons (on all political sides and in all the nations of Christendom) who react to political and cultural crises in the same way that a child reacts to having its sweeties taken away.

I fear that that I'm reflecting the rantings of Hegel, the 19th Century curse of the 20th Century, but I do believe that we have destroyed our foundations through an educational and child-rearing system that values selfishness, hypocrisy, lies and ignorance above all else, a system in which nobody should ever be offended and where the worst, no matter how repulsive, should be treated in exactly the same way as the best. Where we have replaced culture with property, literature with tweets, love with pornography, philosophy with pictures of cats. We now have to deal with the consequences.

However, unlike Hegel and those of his modern followers (even though they're probably unaware that they're his followers) who have created the current anti-European weltanschauung I don't believe that we can fix this problem through exclusion, hatred, and war. We (and it is OUR fault) should never have let it get to the point where that could even be considered.

Unfortunately the last generation of genuine grown-ups in Europe died out over 20 years ago and we're now left with a population of squabbling, selfish idiot children, children mentally even though some are physically in their 80s and 90s, who almost entirely lack the intellectual and educational apparatus to make a mature and informed decision about anything.

Bread and circuses.

Excuse my verbosity and confusion, I'm drunk and worried.

How will I vote? With trepidation and with little hope for the future.