Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Knows fuk all?? Now who's getting nasty and personal? Pot, kettle and all that... Hypocrite much? If that was written and YOU believe it? Seems you are the one following the "official line" not those like me..

Terry said that this is the way to act on this forum. But actually, you do come across as someone who knows very little. Try something easy - tell me again, what were the names / nationality of all the hijackers?


Actually - the biggest tell that this was a set up is that Bush tried to get Kissinger to lead the commission. Kissinger. Let me say that again. Kissinger. WFT! If you did not have doubts before that fuck was appointed, you should have afterwards

Of course someone who is a complete idiot and can't understand FACTS presented to them can differentiate from someone who is intelligent and some one like themselves who isn't??
You can't even understand basic physics so even attempting to judge my intelligence just displays an even greater lack of intelligence on your part..

JFYI If it's appropriate to use personal slurs to respond when someone responds in kind that's acceptable but generally not to someone who wasn't doing that as I was not..

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

JFYI If it's appropriate to use personal slurs to respond when someone responds in kind that's acceptable but generally not to someone who wasn't doing that as I was not..

Right ho. So surely then no one would start in the first place.

Oh, and who were the hijackers? What was their nationality? Any names to replace those that we know are alive? Where did the money come from? You seem very keen on facts, but yet this very basic "My Iqbal, in the plane, with the knife" type of fact is not important to you perhaps?

Alive? Where is that proof? Of course you have jpegs of you and others shaking their hands or something?

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Alive? Where is that proof? Of course you have jpegs of you and others shaking their hands or something?

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Hijack 'suspects' alive and well


Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well.

The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt.

Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.

His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world.

Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.

He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks on New York and Washington, and had been in Morocco when they happened. He has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports.

He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring.

But, he says, he left the United States in September last year, became a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further training course in Morocco.

Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects, has also been quoted in Arab news reports.

Abdelaziz Al Omari
Abdelaziz Al Omari 'lost his passport in Denver'
He says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his passport while studying in Denver.

Another man with exactly the same name surfaced on the pages of the English-language Arab News.

The second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines, the report says.

Meanwhile, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi.

He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.

And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive.

FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.

one of many from mainstream press.... so you were about to tell us

1) who they were
2) where they came from
3) Where the money came from (remember, "it's not important" where the money came from according to the commission. Sounds like hillary on Benghazi

Yes, in the Muslim world there's nothing like a mistake in identity due to similar names, maybe Muhammad for example? He protests from Morroco? If he's the right guy and is innocent why not make it as public as possible? Maybe his identity was used and he allowed that to happen? How many more examples do you need?

Originally Posted by Gilbert

You need to do a bit more research, or at least watch a few vids from people who know.

Research fuking what Gilbert ? I'm perfectly Ok with what went down as is the vast majority of sane minded humans.

Its fukers like you and ENT who try and research shit that is unreasearchable because you watch too many Xfiles programs.

No answer on the heat on steel effect EH ?

Fuk me Gilbert.

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Terry said that this is the way to act on this forum.

No I did not fuking say that Gilbert, what I said is that this forum is a bit different than other pathetic forums and free speech is tolerated to a certain extent.

That means if I tell ENT to go suck a dead dogs cock its usually quite exceptable as long as its not in the top half of the forum.

Get with the fuking program Gilbert and please stop talking shit and quoting me incorrectly.

Fuking hell Gilbert.

What about the heat on fuking steel gig EH ?

Jesus fuking christ, how many times do I need to ask you this Gilbert ?

Fuking cough up with an answer.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Yes, in the Muslim world there's nothing like a mistake in identity due to similar names, maybe Muhammad for example?

Holly fuk, too fuking easy Innit and how true is that.

There all called Muhammad some foking thing or another.

But no, according to ENT and Gilbert it was all a conspiracy simply because some Westerner fuked up the names.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Yes, in the Muslim world there's nothing like a mistake in identity due to similar names, maybe Muhammad for example? He protests from Morroco? If he's the right guy and is innocent why not make it as public as possible? Maybe his identity was used and he allowed that to happen? How many more examples do you need?

As in.. from their passports and ID used on the day... matched the alive people. Blimey, you are a little dense

So we don't know who did it? Or are you contending that they survived?

Dense is a good word, application is off base though, doesn't apply to me you must have me confused.. The other guy mentions his passport was lost or stolen? How convenient??

Originally Posted by terry57

Anyway ENT, I will give you full points for you're research on Firefighter fatalities, that was really interesting and informative. I imagine that was calculated on American Firefighters and not world wide ? I don't know, you can tell me though.

I was referring to my own States Brigade and what has been the most Dangerous and damaging to Firefighters for us and that is Building collapse.

Every Fire Fighting agency in Every country will have different statistics when it comes to fatalities and injuries to there personal.

Regards you dismissing the Pan cake effect. When the Towers fell that was the pan cake effect ...

The world witnessed it but you didn't see it because you reckon it was a hologram. ???

Also you reckon the The towers could not be considered a Firestorm ??

You watch too many movies, no-one witnessed a pancake effect collapse of the WTC buildings on 9/11.

Also tell us all about your hologram theory you keep banging on about, Terry, it seems to be on your mind a lot lately.

The WTC fires were described by NY firefighters as "office fires" within an hour after first responders arrived to extinguish them, and no, those fires weren't firestorms, which are a total conflagration involving massive thermal energies caused by inrushing air which create a whirlwind effect.The Twin Tower fires were oxygen starved, black smoke fires showing no sign of conflagration which involves .

Firestorm situations often occur in bush fires as have happened recently in NSW Blue Mountains fires, and was the effect of the British bombing of Dresden in WW2, also during the bush clearing fire of Golden Bay NZ after WW1 where the firestorm raged for days.

Leading cause of death in bush fires conditions is heat exhaustion, asphyxiation, burns and cardiac arrest. Many instances of death from burns as firefighters get trapped in even small firestorms in the bush.

Leading cause of death among Australian and W. Australian firefighters is again cardiac arrest 44%, trauma 27%, MVAs 20-25%, asphyxiation and burns (20%).

Sadly, most of the trauma injuries sustained by firefighters are as a result of MVAs in private vehicles as crews rush to respond without using seatbelts.

Your "pancake collapse" theory holds no water and has been largely rejected. One reason for that is when correctly calculated, for each floor to pancake onto another it would take approximately 64 seconds for those towers to have collapsed, not the close to free fall speed of 10-11 seconds that it did take on 9/11/2001.

Originally Posted by terry57

Oh yes ENT. Tell us again where all those people that where killed on those planes are hiding out again ???

Pandora EH. Good movie that one.

There were no hijacked planes Ocker. Like I said you watch too many movies.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Anyway, no, I just read the rules of the forum and try to stick to them, that's all. Resorting to personal attacks is just a bit dull that's all, and there's no point discussing things with people who basically have a tantrum and start chucking out insults. Maybe I will just find a way to but an ignore or what ever on that tony person; he seems very aggressive and quite rude.

Oh fuk me Gilbert,

You're really starting to give me the shits with you're continual fuking moaning about personal insults and naughty words and shit like that.

Its all part of a bit of banter and keeping things moving along like you're in the pub with you're mate discussing the football or something.


Words are worth fuk all, any fuk up can write shit on here. I'm an expert at it.

It's like ENT and his stupid fuking pastes. worth fuk all.

Anyway take that on board or fuk off will ya.

Don't fucking start crying about this post either, No one gives a fuk.

That's rich coming from you, Ocker.

You and Latindancer spout more crap then anyone else on the board.

You exaggerate and lie to the max.

What you call banter is what most people call abuse and lies, but then of course you wouldn't understand that, would ya Ocker.

And as ya say Tessy, "Words are worth fuk all, any fuk up can write shit on here. I'm an expert at it".


Yeh, we all know that already Tessy.

[QUOTE=terry57;2591307][quote=Gilbert;2591144] The nice picture he posted saying that they were the terrorists. It was generally agreed, in that most of them are still alive, that their identities were stolen.

It is only generally agreed by people like you that think it was all made up, the vast majority of the worlds population think you and people like ENT are complete fuking loonies.

Anyway, you say that only a few of them where the real terrorists and there dead, the others where just in those pics for a bit of a giggle.

Actually, the vast majority of people on earth think that the official explanation for 9/11 is a blatant lie and that people like you are total shams and liars which is why you support each other and other shams and liars.

Birds of a feather flock together Tessy.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by jamescollister

I don't believe the government story, what the real truth is we will never know. Jim

Every person in the world who is not blind witnessed the planes hitting the Twin Tower's. Oh sorry, ENT didn't see that he saw a hologram .

The Towers then collapsed because of the intense fires.

WTC 7 collapsed because of collateral damage caused by the collapse of the Twin towers.

Win win situation for the terrorists. That scenario could never have been planned as it was perfect.

The conspirators say the USA Government done this so they could march into the Middle east without backlash from the punters ??

As usual, more dumb-ar*ed lies and abuse from a thick brainwashed Ocker who can't even think his way through a bus ticket.

Like I said, ya watch too many movies, you've sucked up so much bullshit American culture from them and drunk so much fluoride that you're totally brainwashed and now goose-step straight into Sepo rambo pseudo-military jargon calling WTC7 "collateral damage".

You do like men in uniform. don't ya tessy?

Hey tell us more about those holograms yer on about Tessy. Were they real or did ya see them in a movie?

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by ENT

Just relax, take a Bex, a cup of tea and a good lie down.

That's foking plagiarism ENT, you are quoting one of my lines.

Foking wanker ENT, how about thinking up you're own shit EH.

Typical off you innit, nothing original, all you're info stolen from another.

Dumbo Ocker. Not only a liar but now a wanabe copyright thief.

That was a Bex advert from way back at least the 1950s that you claim as your own.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Watched it live on TV, but the planes didn't bring the towers down, if the fires did the buildings were sub standard, or there were other reasons, which I think may have been the reason, posted earlier.
By the way the pancake collapse was dumped years ago Jim

Hey Jim,

The reason the Towers fell because of the fires was because the fire proof coating had corroded over time and the girders where weakened by the heat which in turn lead to the collapse.

Jesus, even Mad Uncle Ent can understand that one.

Physics 101. Intense prolonged heat load on supporting girders = a very dangerous building intent on imminent collapse.

The pan cake effect has been proven over and over again in this situation. Don't try and tell us the towers where rigged with explosives for fuk sakes.

Never before has the world had the opportunity to see what can happen to such a massive structure when effected by fire, doubt it will ever happen again.

You, just like LD are full of Sepo propaganda and terminology, full of it!

You've drunk so much fluoride, and watched so many Sepo movies that you're now firmly brainwashed and deluded and guzzle up the official" cool-aid like your life depended on it. Independent thought has fallen out of your ar*e and gone down the drain, drongo.

That's OK, though clone, it makes ya follow orders and die younger.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by terry57

The reason the Towers fell because of the fires was because the fire proof coating had corroded over time and the girders where weakened by the heat which in turn lead to the collapse.

FFS Tel, I'm trying to back you up here

He can't figure that one out,......Tessy had to take early retirement, mate.

Originally Posted by ENT

You watch too many movies, no-one witnessed a pancake effect collapse of the WTC buildings on 9/11.

I did and you can't tell me what I saw...

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Watched it live on TV, but the planes didn't bring the towers down, if the fires did the buildings were sub standard, or there were other reasons, which I think may have been the reason, posted earlier.
By the way the pancake collapse was dumped years ago Jim

Hey Jim,

The reason the Towers fell because of the fires was because the fire proof coating had corroded over time and the girders where weakened by the heat which in turn lead to the collapse.

Jesus, even Mad Uncle Ent can understand that one.

Physics 101. Intense prolonged heat load on supporting girders = a very dangerous building intent on imminent collapse.

The pan cake effect has been proven over and over again in this situation. Don't try and tell us the towers where rigged with explosives for fuk sakes.

Never before has the world had the opportunity to see what can happen to such a massive structure when effected by fire, doubt it will ever happen again.

Terry been lots of highrise/ skyscraper fires, and even the HIST report says no pancake collapse, but a piston collapse.
Is the US government not telling the truth then.
HIST report, jet fuel spent with in 2 minutes, where did the heat come from.

I never said, or posted that the towers were rigged with explosives. Jim

Let ya into a secret, Tessy was an union man, never a fireman, he doesn't know a confabulation from a conflagration and doesn't even know that WTC fires weren't firestorms.

He also thinks that heat dissipates at equal rates in any direction, so his "Physics 101" and "colateral damage" jargon that he and his sepo idols and other wanabes like banging on about is all bullshit designed to big themselves up, but explains nothing

So much for Tessy's independent thinking, the big blouse.

Originally Posted by ENT

drunk so much fluoride

Originally Posted by ENT

You've drunk so much fluoride

Don't you have any new mterial this is rather old and tired..

Originally Posted by ENT

Actually, the vast majority of people on earth think that the official explanation for 9/11 is a blatant lie and that people like you are total shams and liars which is why you support each other and other shams and liars.

Very presumptuous of you to speak for the majority of the world? What arrogance! Majority of the uneducated third world maybe? I'm sure you have links to these claims?

By the way lack of sleep causes humans to loose touch of reality, go insane & become paranoid this would explain a lot about your point of view, it's day light here but I thought you were in Thailand or somewhere in Asia?

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Terry been lots of highrise/ skyscraper fires, and even the HIST report says no pancake collapse, but a piston collapse.
HIST report, jet fuel spent with in 2 minutes, where did the heat come from.

Nope, Terry has never been to a high rise fire and either has the vast majority of the worlds firefighters. A very rare event indeed.

But what every firefighter will attest to is the effect of fire on steel and how it weakens and becomes unstable resulting in total collapse.

Add the weight of floors above and the informed ones can see the real story.

Pancake collapse-piston collapse, Who gives a fuk what one calls it, the fact is it collapsed within its self. Same result EH.

The building is fucked because of the effect of heat on steel.

Every time you post a line you put yourself deeper into the garbage!

Pancake collapse is not piston collapse, Ocker, and the only effect on the steel that day that caused those buildings to collapse was from thermite and other explosives, and they were far hotter than kerosene fires dipshit.

Nope, you were never a fireman Tessy, just a bullshit artist.

Do you know what a piston collapse is? If so and you have half a brain and watch those buildings come down it's clear that is not a piston collapse... It happens from the top down not the other way around which is a piston collapse..

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

The buildings were NEVER designed for an airplane impact of this nature, for one, an average passenger airplane at normal speed would not do this much damage ordinarily, most of it would be limited to the outer perimeter but secondly the towers were designed with their center section being their primary support and the outer facade mostly just steel girders to give the building an open feel from inside..

New buildings are designed and constructed from that point on to withstand certain impact forces and fires but it was not a .... consideration frankly when the towers were designed and constructed.

Not a consideration?
Wrong again there Flossy.

The buildings were designed to withstand aircraft impact, go read the architects' statement on that.

No airliner ever crashed into a building like one of the Twin Towers to make a neat cooky-cutter shape either. Impossible.

The wings would break off against the outer steel columns, and most of the at debris and the aft fuselage would have broken up outside the tower and fallen, but no, you and millions like you raised on a diet of fluprides and Hollywood special effects swallowed the whole media junket hook line and sinker.

Bunch of clones.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by ENT

drunk so much fluoride

Originally Posted by ENT

You've drunk so much fluoride

Don't you have any new mterial this is rather old and tired..

Originally Posted by ENT

Actually, the vast majority of people on earth think that the official explanation for 9/11 is a blatant lie and that people like you are total shams and liars which is why you support each other and other shams and liars.

Very presumptuous of you to speak for the majority of the world? What arrogance! Majority of the uneducated third world maybe? I'm sure you have links to these claims?

By the way lack of sleep causes humans to loose touch of reality, go insane & become paranoid this would explain a lot about your point of view, it's day light here but I thought you were in Thailand or somewhere in Asia?

You don't know where I am ya CIA stooge.

Ya want statistics for who believes what about the Sepo cool-aid propaganda Flo? Don't be lazy, do your own research and go Google.

Arrogant punk! Ya want me to give you references and refuse to give the ones I've previously asked you for!