Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by terry57

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Hey Albert, I watched that clip and what he said was totally correct.

If the Planes just flew into the buildings it would not of been a problem.

Actually if ten planes flew into them it would not of been a problem but he did not go any where near on breaching the subject of what would happen when the place went up in flames EH.

Its all about the effect of heat on metal my friend and fire load.

Nor was he talking about a 767 at full throttle...Yet he still confirmed EVERYTHING I posted..

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by jamescollister

I'm a simple person and ask simple questions, so for those who back the government story, which story do you believe. They have changed it a few times over the years, some of you seem to believe the impact and jet fuel were the cause, yet NIST report says different [that's the main and biggest report] and I quote

Actually this is not uncommon in complicated investigations like this, but the core understanding and explanations remain in tact.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

They go on to say it was the fires, not the jet fuel that did the damage, WTC 7 no plane or fuel.
OK, if you except that it was normal fire that brought the buildings down and no other building of such design have collapsed due to fire, that would suggest the WTC buildings were not built to other buildings standards and the builders should be in jail.

The buildings were NEVER designed for an airplane impact of this nature, for one, an average passenger airplane at normal speed would not do this much damage ordinarily, most of it would be limited to the outer perimeter but secondly the towers were designed with their center section being their primary support and the outer facade mostly just steel girders to give the building an open feel from inside..

New buildings are designed and constructed from that point on to withstand certain impact forces and fires but it was not a requirement or consideration frankly when the towers were designed and constructed.

Again the government reports say the towers withstood the impacts and jet fuel, it was the fires.
So why do all the other highrise buildings, with much bigger and longer fires still stand.

3 buildings of this design have collapsed by fire, all in one day in NY, WHY. Jim

Simply put one more time. Different designs different circumstances.. The "perfect storm" of circumstances for these buildings to collapse..

Originally Posted by terry57

Its all about the effect of thermate on metal my friend and fire load.

fixed that for ya fella

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

The building fell one floor at a time once it began to collapse causing a chain reaction due to weight and structural weakening..

To all you fuk knuckles out there take note of the above quote.

Its really is basic stuff that any fuking retard can get his head around if one is still breathing.

Weight above compromised by structural weakening caused by the effect of fire on steel will result in eventual building collapse.

Fuking numpties and conspirators suck the big one.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Nor was he talking about a 767 at full throttle...

Where's the hole digging smiley

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

I see, you post up ONE opposing video and that makes your version legit? Horseshit!..

Man you are a second rate mug too.

One opposing video - FROM THE FVCKERS WHO BUILT THAT SHIT



You're fvcking childs play son - top yerself now cos once the revolution begins you'll get eaten alive for being Judas.

Rich! Wrong and still banging on senselessly,actually posted a video supporting EXACTLY what I posted and too stupid to understand it... Absolute gold it is...

Originally Posted by terry57

So you recon they went to all that trouble as to legitimize an invasion.

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Nope - to pass the PATRIOT act, to open up the cheque book, and to find a replacement for the russians as the boogeyman under the bed to put the fear of god into the public.

Blimey - you can not read. That's it, you actually can not read. No wonder you looked at the 9/11 commission report and thought "fuk it, it's gonna be true" and went down the pub.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Nor was he talking about a 767 at full throttle...

Where's the hole digging smiley

Were they 707's? Tell us fool? Even if they were 747's they're even larger and more powerful.. Go on the shovels in your hand..

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Originally Posted by terry57

So you recon they went to all that trouble as to legitimize an invasion.

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Nope - to pass the PATRIOT act, to open up the cheque book, and to find a replacement for the russians as the boogeyman under the bed to put the fear of god into the public.

Blimey - you can not read. That's it, you actually can not read. No wonder you looked at the 9/11 commission report and thought "fuk it, it's gonna be true" and went down the pub.

Just because he ignored your mindless quote doesn't mean he can't read, just means he couldn't be bothered to respond to such nonsense, I do that myself, half of what is posted is not even worth a response it's so nonsensical, especially on a topic such as this with the rampant ignorance abound..

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

The building fell one floor at a time once it began to collapse causing a chain reaction due to weight and structural weakening..

To all you fuk knuckles out there take note of the above quote.

Its really is basic stuff that any fuking retard can get his head around if one is still breathing.

Weight above compromised by structural weakening caused by the effect of fire on steel will result in eventual building collapse.

Fuking numpties and conspirators suck the big one.

I do love the fact that on the one hand you say Merica will do what ever it wants; need a war? Lets invade some poor bastards. Need more money? Lets start a war. Need to win an election? Fuk it, war is the only way to do it. You admit fully that they are cold hearted murderous scum bags, and yet, a small case of a few thousand people dying so that the elite and their bum chums can make BILLIONS....and you get all precious about it? Oh no, conspiracy theorists, you are wrong because those people that we do not trust and know to be corrupt mofo's said it was the terrorists, so it must be.

You're funny. You should be on a stage or something

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Were they 707's?

No, you're right.

So tell us you grade-one - 2 week- straight out of Hendon shill - whats the difference exactly?


Tell you what - don't bother, just fvck off back where you came from and leave us in peace

Originally Posted by jamescollister

So why do all the other highrise buildings, with much bigger and longer fires still stand.

Firstly.

In the history of the world there has never been a high rise fire with such unique circumstances as being hit by a massive plane resulting in such a high fire load.

Secondly the steel was compromised by having inadequate fire proofing on the steel girders.

Steel girders not adequately protected by fire proof coating do not take long to weaken when attacked by fire.

Jesus, Firefighters see it at every high intensity building fire.

Even just with the weight of an average roof steel will fail let along the weight of multiple stories above.

Its not hard to understand when one has seen steel fail on the fire ground.

Basic stuff really.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Just because he ignored your mindless quote doesn't mean he can't read, just means he couldn't be bothered to respond to such nonsense, I do that myself, half of what is posted is not even worth a response it's so nonsensical, especially on a topic such as this with the rampant ignorance abound..

mindless? Says a guy who basically knows fuck all, and only sticks to the official line for what ever reason. The whole explanation that you subscribe to is so full of holes it beggars belief. I just wonder how many sick oxen people like you have replaced, or funerals paid for for grand parents that die, every year for a decade.

The neocons wrote in Sept 2000 they wanted a pearl harbor to pass get their patriot act, to release no questions asked funding (aka profits for them) and to do another countries bidding. One year later, it happens. From the moment it happens the government go to massive legnths to clean up quickly leaving no evidence, put together a commission that never identifies who the actual attackers were, who they represented, who paid for it all, why the buildings collapsed, don't even mention one of the three buildings, withhold hundreds of videos of the pentagram plane which they supposedly have but or national security reasons they will not show.. cripes the list goes on, and you have the nerve to continue to try and calls people who dare to question it "mindless"?

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Blimey - you can not read. That's it, you actually can not read.

Fuk me Gilbert,

You hold you're tongue that way and I hold my tongue this way. ??

The yanks went marching off to war to destroy the nasty rag heads because they fuked up the Towers Didn't they.

Terrorism, lets go fuk up Bin Laden and that other tosser Saddam but first we need to off the Towers so the public will support us.

You conspirator nutters say that this was there excuse to do it don't you.

Fuking nutters you lot are. Of course they did not need to do that.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Were they 707's?

No, you're right.

So tell us you grade-one - 2 week- straight out of Hendon shill - whats the difference exactly?


Tell you what - don't bother, just fvck off back where you came from and leave us in peace

Hey your opinion matters shit to me, anytime you want to put me on ignore you're more than welcome, in fact I invite it, it's obvious my posts are over your head anyways numpty so it might be advisable..

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Just because he ignored your mindless quote doesn't mean he can't read, just means he couldn't be bothered to respond to such nonsense, I do that myself, half of what is posted is not even worth a response it's so nonsensical, especially on a topic such as this with the rampant ignorance abound..

mindless? Says a guy who basically knows fuck all, and only sticks to the official line for what ever reason. The whole explanation that you subscribe to is so full of holes it beggars belief. I just wonder how many sick oxen people like you have replaced, or funerals paid for for grand parents that die, every year for a decade.

The neocons wrote in Sept 2000 they wanted a pearl harbor to pass get their patriot act, to release no questions asked funding (aka profits for them) and to do another countries bidding. One year later, it happens. From the moment it happens the government go to massive legnths to clean up quickly leaving no evidence, put together a commission that never identifies who the actual attackers were, who they represented, who paid for it all, why the buildings collapsed, don't even mention one of the three buildings, withhold hundreds of videos of the pentagram plane which they supposedly have but or national security reasons they will not show.. cripes the list goes on, and you have the nerve to continue to try and calls people who dare to question it "mindless"?

Knows fuk all?? Now who's getting nasty and personal? Pot, kettle and all that... Hypocrite much? If that was written and YOU believe it? Seems you are the one following the "official line" not those like me..

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by jamescollister

I'm a simple person and ask simple questions, so for those who back the government story, which story do you believe. They have changed it a few times over the years, some of you seem to believe the impact and jet fuel were the cause, yet NIST report says different [that's the main and biggest report] and I quote

Actually this is not uncommon in complicated investigations like this, but the core understanding and explanations remain in tact.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

They go on to say it was the fires, not the jet fuel that did the damage, WTC 7 no plane or fuel.
OK, if you except that it was normal fire that brought the buildings down and no other building of such design have collapsed due to fire, that would suggest the WTC buildings were not built to other buildings standards and the builders should be in jail.

The buildings were NEVER designed for an airplane impact of this nature, for one, an average passenger airplane at normal speed would not do this much damage ordinarily, most of it would be limited to the outer perimeter but secondly the towers were designed with their center section being their primary support and the outer facade mostly just steel girders to give the building an open feel from inside..

New buildings are designed and constructed from that point on to withstand certain impact forces and fires but it was not a requirement or consideration frankly when the towers were designed and constructed.

Again the government reports say the towers withstood the impacts and jet fuel, it was the fires.
So why do all the other highrise buildings, with much bigger and longer fires still stand.

3 buildings of this design have collapsed by fire, all in one day in NY, WHY. Jim

Simply put one more time. Different designs different circumstances.. The "perfect storm" of circumstances for these buildings to collapse..

What different design, buildings were designed to withstand a 707 crash.
Were they inferior to other buildings of similar design. Jim

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Hey your opinion matters shit to me, anytime you want to put me on ignore you're more than welcome, in fact I invite it, it's obvious my posts are over your head anyways numpty so it might be advisable..

I won't put you on ignore, I'll just keep battering you and your ilk.

"numpty" ?

You have an inability to use the word correctly so don't use it it vain you fvck.

Originally Posted by Gilbert

You admit fully that they are cold hearted murderous scum bags, and yet, a small case of a few thousand people dying so that the elite and their bum chums can make BILLIONS...

I do not think the USA are cold hearted murderous bastards at all. They saved Australia's arse when the slanty eyed Jap bastards decided to head our way and I'm eternally grateful to them.

Ive toured America and reckon its a great place, met many great people. On the other hand they have fuked up quite a few times by going to war too quickly.

That has nothing to do with the subject of them conspiring to off a shit load of there own people though and fly planes into the Towers and then drop the towers by attaching thermite to the supporting girders.

Only fucking nutters believe that shit.

So what about the fact concerning building collapse because of intense heat compromising steel ?

Any chance of that or we go back to the boys attaching thermite to the building again.

Good fun fuking up you whack jobs.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by jamescollister

I'm a simple person and ask simple questions, so for those who back the government story, which story do you believe. They have changed it a few times over the years, some of you seem to believe the impact and jet fuel were the cause, yet NIST report says different [that's the main and biggest report] and I quote

Actually this is not uncommon in complicated investigations like this, but the core understanding and explanations remain in tact.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

They go on to say it was the fires, not the jet fuel that did the damage, WTC 7 no plane or fuel.
OK, if you except that it was normal fire that brought the buildings down and no other building of such design have collapsed due to fire, that would suggest the WTC buildings were not built to other buildings standards and the builders should be in jail.

The buildings were NEVER designed for an airplane impact of this nature, for one, an average passenger airplane at normal speed would not do this much damage ordinarily, most of it would be limited to the outer perimeter but secondly the towers were designed with their center section being their primary support and the outer facade mostly just steel girders to give the building an open feel from inside..

New buildings are designed and constructed from that point on to withstand certain impact forces and fires but it was not a requirement or consideration frankly when the towers were designed and constructed.

Again the government reports say the towers withstood the impacts and jet fuel, it was the fires.
So why do all the other highrise buildings, with much bigger and longer fires still stand.

3 buildings of this design have collapsed by fire, all in one day in NY, WHY. Jim

Simply put one more time. Different designs different circumstances.. The "perfect storm" of circumstances for these buildings to collapse..

What different design, buildings were designed to withstand a 707 crash.
Were they inferior to other buildings of similar design. Jim

I think at this point it's been explained enough and maybe doing some online research into the different structural designs for high rise buildings would do you some good to get the answers you seek. The info is out there if you do some ground work..

Short answer is some provide primary strength and support through their outer structure and some provide said support through the inner structure.. Exoskeleton design for example versus endoskeleton..

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Yes, but at the end of the day it does not matter a flying fuk on how they are designed if the fire proofing on the steel girders is inadequate.

They are fuked if attacked by high intensity heat. The way they where constructed means fuk all in that situation.

Dumb fuks just cant get there head around that because there fuking stupid.

Fuk me EH.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Knows fuk all?? Now who's getting nasty and personal? Pot, kettle and all that... Hypocrite much? If that was written and YOU believe it? Seems you are the one following the "official line" not those like me..

Terry said that this is the way to act on this forum. But actually, you do come across as someone who knows very little. Try something easy - tell me again, what were the names / nationality of all the hijackers?


Actually - the biggest tell that this was a set up is that Bush tried to get Kissinger to lead the commission. Kissinger. Let me say that again. Kissinger. WFT! If you did not have doubts before that fuck was appointed, you should have afterwards

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Gilbert

You admit fully that they are cold hearted murderous scum bags, and yet, a small case of a few thousand people dying so that the elite and their bum chums can make BILLIONS...

I do not think the USA are cold hearted murderous bastards at all. They saved Australia's arse when the slanty eyed Jap bastards decided to head our way and I'm eternally grateful to them.

Ive toured America and reckon its a great place, met many great people. On the other hand they have fuked up quite a few times by going to war too quickly.

That has nothing to do with the subject of them conspiring to off a shit load of there own people though and fly planes into the Towers and then drop the towers by attaching thermite to the supporting girders.

Only fucking nutters believe that shit.

So what about the fact concerning building collapse because of intense heat compromising steel ?

Any chance of that or we go back to the boys attaching thermite to the building again.

Good fun fuking up you whack jobs.

Honestly - You have problems reading. Drunk? On the wacky backy? The USA (governmetn and elite aside) is a great place and the people are awesome. In fact, you would be hard pushed to find a more welcoming nation. Well unless you meet a bloke in Kentucky where your first introduction is whilst your hand is in his GFs snatch. He wasn't so welcoming.

You need to do a bit more research, or at least watch a few vids from people who know. Right at the start of this thread....have a look.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by jamescollister

So why do all the other highrise buildings, with much bigger and longer fires still stand.

Firstly.

In the history of the world there has never been a high rise fire with such unique circumstances as being hit by a massive plane resulting in such a high fire load.

Secondly the steel was compromised by having inadequate fire proofing on the steel girders.

Steel girders not adequately protected by fire proof coating do not take long to weaken when attacked by fire.

Jesus, Firefighters see it at every high intensity building fire.

Even just with the weight of an average roof steel will fail let along the weight of multiple stories above.

Its not hard to understand when one has seen steel fail on the fire ground.

Basic stuff really.

Terry, just because you're a fireman who's seen the effect of fire on steel doesn't make you qualified to talk about the effects of fire on steel you know.

ENT is already busy googling "9/11 steel does not burn" as we speak, so he can pick you to bits with some old bollocks he doesn't even understand, but will cut and paste anyway.

Originally Posted by terry57

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Yes, but at the end of the day it does not matter a flying fuk on how they are designed if the fire proofing on the steel girders is inadequate.

They are fuked if attacked by high intensity heat. The way they where constructed means fuk all in that situation.

Dumb fuks just cant get there head around that because there fuking stupid.

Fuk me EH.

Yah Terry but in this case it did matter more as the outer structure was compromised more and allowed deeper penetration of the jet because it was an endoskeleton sort of structure..