Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

[QUOTE=Latindancer;2151581]

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

..the Pentagon is a specially strengthened, heavily armoured building. Particularly in the section where the plane hit.

No plane hit the Pentagon building, seismology has proven that.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

They just loose me when they drift into these wild tangents like conflicting 9/11 conspiracies and cooked-up global warming models and figures.

I am sure that half of the 911 conspiracy theories out there are plants by National Security to "bury" the reality of what happened, so in that regard you are correct, they are government affiliated propaganda and should be dismissed. Yet, that shouldn't stop us from digging the truth about what really happened.

the best way to hide "sensitive" information is to bury it with a ton of irrelevant information

I just don't think the 9/11 conspiracy issue has any real traction or significance for people in general.
Sure it would be nice for the truth to come out, but to think it can or will puts you squarely in lalaland imho.

People are interested in the health and well being of themselves their family and their society, in that order. The focus should be on how to show that big government as a corporate tool ultimately fails the people they are supposed to be serving.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

They just loose me when they drift into these wild tangents like conflicting 9/11 conspiracies and cooked-up global warming models and figures.

I am sure that half of the 911 conspiracy theories out there are plants by National Security to "bury" the reality of what happened, so in that regard you are correct, they are government affiliated propaganda and should be dismissed. Yet, that shouldn't stop us from digging the truth about what really happened.

the best way to hide "sensitive" information is to bury it with a ton of irrelevant information

I just don't think the 9/11 conspiracy issue has any real traction or significance for people in general.
Sure it would be nice for the truth to come out, but to think it can or will puts you squarely in lalaland imho.

People are interested in the health and well being of themselves their family and their society, in that order. The focus should be on how to show how big government as a corporate tool ultimately fails the people they are supposed to be serving.

This is a very valid point. Anyone with half a brain understands that 9/11 was an inside job - although understand very little about exactly how it was orchestrated. What we have now is the time and life factor. Most people want to live their lives, not keep arguing a point that is getting harder and harder to prove as time goes on and witnesses die/fade away and the propoganda machines like Cthulo (Daffy Duck) work tirelessly on their bent pitch.

Governments have done this throughout history - everywhere.

There are many different issues to tackle, but as Ent correctly states, all these current global problems stem from the one big 9/11 lie. If the perpertrators were jailed - it would be the first step to global re-concilliation.

Originally Posted by ENT

Nothing "hit" the Pentagon building, That's proven by seismograph records.

There were no "hijacked" aircraft involved in the 9/11 false flag op.

You fuking tool ENT, you been banging on telling all and sundry that a missile hit the pentagon then you trot out this babble.

Next you are telling us no hijacked plane hit the Towers even though there's clear recordings of the hijackers and phone calls made from the planes on that very day.

This is exactly why you are considered to be fraud and a non believer of irrefutable evidence.

A serial nutter in other words.

Fuk off will ya.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Virtually everyone on this thread and who has visited it but you, Albert and Handsuman....3 people......(and a troll...Butterfingers) have had YOUR views discredited on this thread.

This post has now been corrected. I wrote it last night at 11.20 pm after coming home from a huge and very filling meal at an Indian restaurant. And I was having a conversation with my wife whilst writing it.
Just goes to show how small-minded and nitpicking ENT is, grasping at straws for credibility by attempting to discredit others. Truly pathetic.

Talk about pots and kettles, ya slippery little hypocrite!

Take your prescribed medication, EMP.

I'd like to point out that Terry has a respectable profession.

ENT is "unemployed... in Greenland!" (name that reference)

ENT is desperately kvetsching out as much crap as he can copy/paste, in hopes of remaining relevant (in his head).

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

You seem to want to achieve some sort of great winning drama of exposing a conspiracy. It ain't gonna happen.

If there really *were* some sort of conspiracy going on, that has no problem killing thousands of Americans to "keep the lid on" (so to say, do you *really* think ENT would still be alive? That any of ENT's "sources" would still be alive?

'nuff said.

Kinda makes you wish there actually were an conspiracy - it'd be better for the genepool.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by ENT

Nothing "hit" the Pentagon building, That's proven by seismograph records.

There were no "hijacked" aircraft involved in the 9/11 false flag op.

You fuking tool ENT, you been banging on telling all and sundry that a missile hit the pentagon then you trot out this babble.

Next you are telling us no hijacked plane hit the Towers even though there's clear recordings of the hijackers and phone calls made from the planes on that very day.

This is exactly why you are considered to be fraud and a non believer of irrefutable evidence.

A serial nutter in other words.

Fuk off will ya.

Fwk off yerself Ockerpussy.

I've repeated over and again that nothing hit the Pentagon building on 9/11.

I speculated on the possibility of a missile strike, but seismographs record nothing struck the Pentagon buiding that day.
How many times do I have to repeat that for the likes of dip-shits like you?

Just post all the references and info you can find about those air traffic control recordings and compare them with the references I've already given about them. Once you've actually read them and thought about it all, come back and discuss them.

So far, you've posted no viable information on the subject, only insults.

So up your, jack.

Maybe I should report these guys to my handlers, and see if something can be done?

Wouldn't that be something?

Originally Posted by ENT

I've repeated over and again that nothing hit the Pentagon building on 9/11.

Oh, damn, that one's gonna be really hard to disprove:



Damn shoddy construction!

Oh, look - flight manifests! How about them apples?

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

lalaland .

Exactly where ENT lives.

Hey ENT, your banging on about no seismic recordings at the Pentagon but you reckon a missile hit the foking thing.

Why no seismic recordings of that then EH.

^ Do you think a plane hitting a building, and a bomb inside a building would give the same seismic readings?

Hang on.. there's a cat up in that tree mate

Just for the record, here's my personal view of what happened on 9/11 and afterwards:

- 19 Saudi nationals trained to hijack and fly planes, with the intent of using the planes as weapons against the Pentagon, the WTC, and another US gov't building (Capitol, White House). This is nothing new - these lunatics keep trying and once in a while, manage to blow themselves up and damage US property (USS Cole, Lebanon Embassy, First bombing attempt at the WTC,....)

- the outgoing Clinton administration passed on all available intelligence to the incoming Bush administration. The Bush administration dismissed any such intelligence and warnings.

- the secret service and the CIA *had* become aware of suspicious behavior and chatter that indicated some operation was apparently being planned or underway. Any such suspicion was forwarded to Bush' Attorney General John Ashcroft who dismissed it - as he was more concerned about forced morning prayers that protecting the nation. (note: this wasn't intentional, it was merely stupid).

- the operation was able to be pulled off with a 75% success rate by the 19 Saudi nationals, mostly despite their being idiots. A credit to the mastermind behind their training (who turned out to be Khalid Sheik Mohammed), who knew that he had to execute a plan while relying on uneducated morons.

- the plane in Pennsylvania went down and was destroyed en-route when the passengers realized what was going on, and basically started over-powering the hijackers. Facing defeat, the crew that had locked themselves in the cockpit barreled the plane straight into the ground.

- the other three planes hit their targets.

- back then, as I was watching the twin towers burning, I recall turning to my friend in the living room, and mentioning "if they don't get these fires under control within the hour, those towers will collapse into themselves". I said so because I knew the upper steel skeleton section of the towers was not protected by flame retardant and heat reducing materials, due to changes in the 1968 building codes. Whatever thin veneer of spray on coating was probably compromised by having a 500,000 ton plane slam into it. As such, I knew that the heat and damage generated was enough to weaken not just the steel (making buckling easier) but that it would loosen the steel bolts securing the structure.

- understanding of structural factors involved made it clear to me, that once 2-3 floors gave way and collapsed the rest of the building would collapse into itself. Which is exactly what happened 45 minutes later. So, none of this came as any sort of surprise - subsequent collapses of surrounding buildings also came as no surprise, considering WTC 7 burned continuously for 6-7 hours, and underground foundation structures were seriously damaged by the collapse of the twin towers, causing subsequent damage and collapse of surrounding structures.

- I do believe systematic cover-ups followed the events of 9/11, but those were the typical cover-ups of those in charge (John Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Cheney, et al) to protect their own asses as well as to protect The President from any implications of *incompetence* and willful *negligence* (notice the two words I used : *incompetence* and *negligence* - not complicity).

- I also believe that the official commission's findings, while largely accurate, greatly simplified the actual course of events in the interest of providing closure, protecting national security, and protecting other individuals from being implicated for negligence and incompetence. Thus, to me, the official story is something I do not pay much attention to.

At the end of the day, the confessions, boastings and admissions by Bin Laden, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, Zacarias Moussaoui, and others provide sufficient support for that portion of "the official story" (furthermore to be referred to as TOS).

That's about it - in a nutshell, my view on what happened can simply be summarized by:

"Complacency does not equal Complicity!" or, in short "Complacency, not Complicity!"

Here, enjoy:

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/home

The 9/11 "truth" movement has dried up and blown away, having achieved none of its stated objectives or even bothering to get a single significant claim correct. See the "What's New" section below to get an idea of the type of people who still cling to kooky 9/11 delusions.

This pretty much sums it up:

Originally Posted by Dougal

Originally Posted by raycarey

you're wasting your time.

You are arguing with people who think 'The X files' is a documentary.

Now, I don't think being a Truther makes you more likely to become a murderer. Rather I think that both are symptoms stemming from a similar cause: mental illness. Paranoid schizophrenics are probably more likely to become Truthers than the general population, and probably more likely to have voices in their heads telling them to kill someone.

I will keep reposting this regularly in this thread. Anyone else, feel free to repost.

Just for the record,

No one gives a fuck what you think you filthy shill

Oh, look - proofwrecked

proofwreck (-verb)

1. To expose a person’s lack of credibility by use of simple research and elementary logic.

proofwreck (-noun)

1. A person thus exposed.

2. Grandiose claims which do not bear up to scrutiny.

Originally Posted by ENT

I've repeated over and again that nothing hit the Pentagon building on 9/11.

I speculated on the possibility of a missile strike, but seismographs record nothing struck the Pentagon building that day.

Holly fuk ENT, OK then let me get this correct. You recon a plane didn't hit the Pentagon and a missile could off but your not too sure.

Further more because the seismographs didn't record anything then nothing did actually hit the Pentagon and its all a figment of our collective information ?

Fuk me EH, Its no wonder you are viewed as TeakDoors most celebrated fuk up when you post shit like this.

Entertaining thou.

Ah, the internet is FOREVER!

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This is the internet you pathetic nonce.

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

I'd like to point out that Terry has a respectable profession.

ENT is "unemployed... in Greenland!" (name that reference)

ENT is desperately kvetsching out as much crap as he can copy/paste, in hopes of remaining relevant (in his head).

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

You seem to want to achieve some sort of great winning drama of exposing a conspiracy. It ain't gonna happen.

If there really *were* some sort of conspiracy going on, that has no problem killing thousands of Americans to "keep the lid on" (so to say, do you *really* think ENT would still be alive? That any of ENT's "sources" would still be alive?

'nuff said.

Kinda makes you wish there actually were an conspiracy - it'd be better for the genepool.

More lies and total mental spaghetti from quack quack, the self styled experienced engineer and scientist who only has scientistically (your word) founded knowledge.

Terry's claim to be a fireman conflict with his description of a disastrous fire as a "flagellation" instead of a conflagration.

Maybe in his neck of the woods firemen don;t need to pass a preliminary aptitude test which includes the ability to read, write and follow instructions clearly.


The video I posted earlier of the FBI authority at WTC that day, states outright that the 9/11 false flag op was a government conspiracy.is

Yep - NOTHING hit the pentagon.

It's an old building. The brickwork just gave way. Material fatigue, and a bad gas mains.

Originally Posted by ENT

I've repeated over and again that nothing hit the Pentagon building on 9/11.

I speculated on the possibility of a missile strike, but seismographs record nothing struck the Pentagon buiding that day.
How many times do I have to repeat that for the likes of dip-shits like you?

Hey, wow ! ENT has been banging on seemingly forever about how a missile rather than a plane hit the Pentagon. Now he has stated (twice in this thread only), that seismograph evidence apparently shows that NOTHING HIT THE BUILDING.
He claims he "speculated" on the "possibility" of a missile strike, but it seems to me that he was banging on about it till we puked.
So what happened there, ENT ? Did fairies and elves deposit plane debris outside, and embed engines inside ?

How about posting your seismograph claims ??? Links please
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Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by ENT

I've repeated over and again that nothing hit the Pentagon building on 9/11.

I speculated on the possibility of a missile strike, but seismographs record nothing struck the Pentagon building that day.

Further more because the seismographs didn't record anything then nothing did actually hit the Pentagon and its all a figment of our collective information ?

Correct, no seismograph readings for a hit means no hit. Simple as that, it's all a figment of your imagination since you believe whatever garbage the US media in collusion with the Bush administration dumped on you.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Do you think a plane hitting a building, and a bomb inside a building would give the same seismic readings?

Hang on.. there's a cat up in that tree mate

Albert, firefighters do not rescue cats from trees simply because the horrible little fokers can get down on there own. When they get hungry they will climb down so this is a Myth and what Ive told you is Fact.

Secondly there was no seismic reading concerning the Pentagon because ENT tells us nothing hit the Pentagon. This is Myth because we have the facts to prove it.

Trouble with ENT is that that he can not distinguish between Fact and Myth and makes up his own rules, Eh ENT.