Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Welcome Ent.

I can see a love affair blossoming here....

^just imagine the spawn of this affair... the spawn of intelligent design

an Ear Nose Throat and Anus

^
^^
Get to fuck you pussy hole sellout fuckers,
We are legion

^
You're a fucking sellout Spazz.
Not only that, you're a thick [at][at][at][at] too.
Fuck off would you, there's a good lad

Dapper is wasted.

Originally Posted by hazz

^just imagine the spawn of this affair... the spawn of intelligent design

an Ear Nose Throat and Anus

Ya drop a whole loada clws, kaki.

^^ Not even slightly.
(Burp)

Originally Posted by hazz

oh you mean your one of those people who are slightly less able to tell the difference between fact and fantasy than your average creationist. And rather like a creationist think everyone who disagrees with your fantasy is some kind of heretic.

then yes I guess you are legion.... but we already knew this

Yah,

But UR a believer.

Is "creationist" the new word du jour for the retarded flat-earth mob too scared to look at their own shadow?

Any believer is just that,......


knows nothing ,......



Easily influenced,....

Take him ENT, take him roughly, he's too drunk to put up a fight.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Dapper is wasted.

its simples... there is a quanta of intelligence... i.t the intelligence created by a single isolated brain cell. And as with quantum mechanics its an indivisible unit.

Dapper is having a meltdown because he was the dominant personality in a single brain celled host body suffering multiple personality syndrome. He is being pushed out by the ent personality who's been out for lunch for the last 6 months.

Obviously there is going to be some quantum weirdness as they fight over the brain cell... but once its sorted we will be returned to their normal fruit and nut service.

G'day Harry,

Yup, Hazz has a problem, short ring finger.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Take him, take him roughly, he's too drunk to put up a fight.

The last thing you heard every Friday night when your bosses came home.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Welcome Ent.

"This is much bigger than me.

But I'm involved"

Sure he was involved, in twisting the truth, lying all along about that pole.

Not even a scratch on his car's bonnet.

Poor crazy ol 'chap.

I wonder how much he was paid?

Wasn't he claiming at one point that either he or his wife were in the US Secret Service/FBI/gummint at the time?

Pragmatic #5926.

Thank you.

Will follow up.

Gosh TD CSI have reformed and retinned

It's hard to believe that as of today, not a single person has bothered to put together a piece about Lloyd England on Wikipedia.

I will be discussing an angle of his story (quite literally) that I believe has not been covered up until this point; an angle that shows his story to be a complete fabrication.

As Citizen Investigation Team (CIT) has mentioned, Mr. England's involvement in 9/11 may have been deliberate or he may simply have been at the wrong place at the wrong time and used as a patsy. We just don't have enough information to figure it out yet. But we do have enough information to prove his version of events is impossible.

Up until now, Mr. England's story has been discredited on several levels.

The location of his taxi and the downed light poles south of the Citgo gas station conflicts completely with the testimony of more than a dozen eye witnesses who saw Flt. 77 fly north of the Citgo gas station towards the Pentagon. A flight path north of the Citgo gas station (NOC) would have made collision with the 'downed' light poles impossible.

Driving 40 m.p.h. with a 30+ foot light pole impaled through his dashboard, the heavy side outside his car, swerving for 40 feet before coming to a halt and not having as much as a scratch on the hood of his car is difficult to imagine.

Most people, after having survived such a traumatic accident would be shell-shocked and not have the presence of mind to do anything for quite some time before calming down and realizing the gravity of the situation. Not Mr. England. Just minutes after the accident he was busy flagging down a van to get assistance in removing the light pole from his car! What was his reasoning? What was the urgency?

"Because I wanted to drive the car home. The car is my only transportation." Right, better to tamper with the evidence and flee the scene of an accident than wait for the police? Like the police wouldn't have been able to help you remove the pole when they arrived?

And the man who was gracious enough to stop and help out Lloyd just happened to be completely silent the entire time he was helping him.
He didn't ask Lloyd if he was injured, something that 99.99% of the public would do at the scene of an accident, and to boot, according to Lloyd he left as Lloyd was still lying on the ground struggling with the bent end of the pole lying on top of him!


I will be focusing on three key areas of Lloyd's story: the timing of the 'accident', the location of Lloyd at the moment of impact and the direction of impact.

Timing/location:
Flt. 77 was supposedly flying at around 530 mph when it supposedly struck the Pentagon. This translates into ~ 780 ft./sec.

Pole 1 was approximately 990 ft. away from the Pentagon crash point.
This means that from the time Flt. 77 would have struck Pole 1 (the pole that supposedly hit Mr. England's taxi) until the time it would have struck the Pentagon, a little more than one second would have transpired.

This simple timing fact is very important when considering the location of Mr. England's taxi when it was supposedly struck.

The window of time from when Pole 1 was supposedly struck until the time when the pole would have had to have hit the taxi was incredibly short.
Less than 1/20 th of a second, or a blink of an eye.

Anything longer than this time and the pole would have passed beyond harm's way of Mr. England's taxi.

So Mr. England had to have been almost literally underneath the jet just as it supposedly struck Pole 1. That would have been quite a fateful coincidence.


Direction:

The lines in the attached photo look complicated but they aren't really.

Pole1

All the blue lines are parallel to the jet's fuselage.
All of the yellow lines are perpendicular to the jet's fuselage.
All of the orange lines are parallel to the leading edge of the jet's wings.
The two most important lines are the pink and blue lines that intersect each other and have arrow on one end.
The red dots are where Poles 1 and 2 were located before being supposedly struck by Flt. 77.

Let's examine the yellow lines first.
The reason I included them was to imagine what would have happened to the
poles had the jet been equipped with a special wing structure;
a wing structure with leading edges perpendicular to the jet's fuselage.

As you look at the photo, imagine the jet approaching Pole 1 with these 'perpendicular wings'. I have inserted a yellow line just before Pole 1, to show the angle that the wings would then be striking the pole at.

Because the wings would be perpendicular to the jet's fuselage, the pole would travel in roughly the same direction as the fuselage.

Or in other words, the pole would travel at the same angle the jet was heading for, towards the Pentagon.

But, as we know, the leading edge of the wings were not perpendicular to the jet's fuselage; rather, they were angled, as are most wings on most jets.

Let's focus our attention briefly at Pole 2 now.

The orange angled line just before Pole 2 is depicting the leading edge of the jet's left wing as it would be situated just before striking Pole 2.

The angle of the wing as it strikes Pole 2 is almost perpendicular to the road.
Somehow however, the pole managed to be propelled to the left, onto the grass.
Keep the angle and where the pole fell in mind as we now shift our focus back to Pole 1.

The orange line just before Pole 1 is depicting the leading edge of the jet's right wing as it would be situated just before striking Pole 1.


If a hypothetical wing that was perpendicular to the jet's fuselage (the yellow line just before the red dot) struck the pole, we would expect the pole to travel in the direction of the blue-arrowed line.

But the plane's wing is angled (the orange line just before the red dot) and so we would expect the pole to travel in the direction somewhere between the blue and the pink- arrowed lines.

Recall that Pole 2 was propelled to the left and so it follows that Pole 1, with an even greater angle of contact (with respect to the road) would be propelled further to the right.

Now here comes Mr. England's (and the perps') dilemma.

If we study the angle that Pole 1 supposedly impaled Mr. England's taxi, we notice a basically straight line parallel to the length of the vehicle.

Not only does the physical evidence of damage to Mr. England's vehicle bear this out, but if Pole 1 had struck his taxi at a 60 degree angle or thereabouts, it would have impaled Lloyd's chest and killed him instantly.

And so we finally come to this impossible situation.

We have a light pole that is supposedly struck by Flt. 77 which is supposedly heading straight for the Pentagon.

The angle that the pole would be traveling at after being struck would be approximately 60 degrees away from parallel to Route 27. (somewhere between the blue and pink-arrowed lines).

But Mr. England's taxi which is traveling at approximately 40 m.p.h. is supposedly struck virtually head on, with the pole penetrating at an angle almost parallel to his vehicle.

If Newton's Laws of Physics weren't violated then it would have been physically impossible to have occurred.

Either the pole strikes the cab at about a 60 degree angle and instantly kills Lloyd or the pole never strikes the taxi.

I'll let you the jury decide.

This post has been edited by NP1Mike: Apr 13 2014, 08:02 PM

Lloyd England's Impossible Story - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum

People are notoriously unreliable witnesses. Confabulation rules the human psyche.

This names 2 other witnesses who weren't telling the truth.