Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dapper

You don't think collapsing buildings throw out debris in all directions?

No but exploding buildings do you utter plank

Originally Posted by Latindancer

I've also used thermite.....I even made my own at high school

Tryin' to wind me up ?

I described that in the "9/11....what really happened" thread....the very first time I encountered the nutcase ENT.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Tryin' to wind me up ?

I described that in the "9/11....what really happened" thread....the very first time I encountered the nutcase ENT.

FFS mods stop this fucking nonsense before Dappy ends up repeating the whole, lame fucking thread.

Hey Harry, why don't you ask the mods to "pull it"

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

FFS mods stop this fucking nonsense before Dappy ends up repeating the whole, lame fucking thread.

What the fuck are you, some fucking nazi??
FREE SPEECH MOTHERFUCKER!!
You don't like the thread don't post and don't read - simple.
Stop running to the mods like some pussy with something to hide and asking for the thread to be trashed.

"Fuck Off Harry"

Come on Mods, chuck it in the fucking doghouse where it belongs.

TD doesn't need another 230 pages of poorly educated slobs swallowing fairy stories off the internet and regurgitating all the bullshit ENT already wrote.

Then again, Crapper or EarNoseandThroat will just start another, and we will then lose all our refutations of their lunacy.

I think perhaps the bast way is to just not answer (yes, I plead guilty).

Difficult though...

I agree we should reboot it with a more contemporary theme.

Steven Avery: Guilty or fitted up by the Old Bill?

Look at you sad bunch, maybe we should call you the Teakdoor Taliban?
THESE THINGS MUST NOT BE DISCUSSED!

Wankers the lot of ya.

Noticed this part of the forum is called Speakers Corner?
Maybe as none of you are British - you should look it up and learn something.

Teak Door has (mostly) always been a bastion of free speech. This thread was canned due to the fact that one of your flat-earthed mates got onto the mods team. Won't name names - but he's not there/or doesn't call the shots anymore.

Right now the mods are back following the original path of DD - how it should be.

Originally Posted by Dapper

Here is a list of 24 facts that cannot be debunked about 9/11.

This does'nt address every statement (most weren't questions) on your list, but this site has a lot of other refutations for the conspiracy crowd to slip on their tin thinking-caps and compare information.

The complete collapse of the Twin Towers has more to do with the construction than anything else. Yes, it was the loss of fireproofing and subsequent fires that collapsed the building but if it were not for the construction, a total collapse may not have occurred. Ironically, the construction also saved many lives by letting the towers stand as long as they did. These pages explain the construction and provide evidence for collapse by fire.

"Tube in a Tube"
The designers coined the term "Tube in a Tube" to describe the buildings’ construction. The design was an innovation of its day. Thick steel columns ran up the middle of the building. This housed the elevators, stairwell, electrical conduits, water, sewer and other services which ran up and down the length of the buildings.

For you to understand the collapse, you will have to remember four main elements.
• Core columns
• Perimeter columns
• Floor Trusses
• Fire proofing

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Towers Collapse

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by Dapper

Here is a list of 24 facts that cannot be debunked about 9/11.

The complete collapse of the Twin Towers has more to do with the construction than anything else. Yes, it was the loss of fireproofing and subsequent fires that collapsed the building but if it were not for the construction, a total collapse may not have occurred. Ironically, the construction also saved many lives by letting the towers stand as long as they did. These pages explain the construction and provide evidence for collapse by fire.

"Tube in a Tube"
The designers coined the term "Tube in a Tube" to describe the buildings’ construction. The design was an innovation of its day. Thick steel columns ran up the middle of the building. This housed the elevators, stairwell, electrical conduits, water, sewer and other services which ran up and down the length of the buildings.

For you to understand the collapse, you will have to remember four main elements.
• Core columns
• Perimeter columns
• Floor Trusses
• Fire proofing

This does'nt address every statement (most weren't questions) on your list, but this site has a lot of other refutations for the conspiracy crowd to slip on their tin thinking-caps and compare information.

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Towers Collapse

And it's all already been covered in this shitty, worn out thread.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by Dapper

Here is a list of 24 facts that cannot be debunked about 9/11.

The complete collapse of the Twin Towers has more to do with the construction than anything else. Yes, it was the loss of fireproofing and subsequent fires that collapsed the building but if it were not for the construction, a total collapse may not have occurred. Ironically, the construction also saved many lives by letting the towers stand as long as they did. These pages explain the construction and provide evidence for collapse by fire.

"Tube in a Tube"
The designers coined the term "Tube in a Tube" to describe the buildings’ construction. The design was an innovation of its day. Thick steel columns ran up the middle of the building. This housed the elevators, stairwell, electrical conduits, water, sewer and other services which ran up and down the length of the buildings.

For you to understand the collapse, you will have to remember four main elements.
• Core columns
• Perimeter columns
• Floor Trusses
• Fire proofing

This does'nt address every statement (most weren't questions) on your list, but this site has a lot of other refutations for the conspiracy crowd to slip on their tin thinking-caps and compare information.

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Towers Collapse

And it's all already been covered in this shitty, worn out thread.

I know. But it looks like Daffy is trying to raise a new generation of Tin Hatters on old lies. I'm just trying to nip it in the bud.

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by Dapper

Here is a list of 24 facts that cannot be debunked about 9/11.

This does'nt address every statement (most weren't questions) on your list, but this site has a lot of other refutations for the conspiracy crowd to slip on their tin thinking-caps and compare information.

The complete collapse of the Twin Towers has more to do with the construction than anything else. Yes, it was the loss of fireproofing and subsequent fires that collapsed the building but if it were not for the construction, a total collapse may not have occurred. Ironically, the construction also saved many lives by letting the towers stand as long as they did. These pages explain the construction and provide evidence for collapse by fire.

"Tube in a Tube"
The designers coined the term "Tube in a Tube" to describe the buildings’ construction. The design was an innovation of its day. Thick steel columns ran up the middle of the building. This housed the elevators, stairwell, electrical conduits, water, sewer and other services which ran up and down the length of the buildings.

For you to understand the collapse, you will have to remember four main elements.
• Core columns
• Perimeter columns
• Floor Trusses
• Fire proofing

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Towers Collapse

From the first paragraph of your shitty no-mates load of wank blog.

"Yes, it was the loss of fireproofing and subsequent fires that collapsed the building"

It's an utter load of bollocks and an embarrassment to post. Go and do some hardcore research before posting such cobblers.

The towers did not fall at or below free fall speeds…

In every photo and every video, you can see columns far outpacing the collapse of the building. Not only are the columns falling faster than the building but they are also falling faster than the debris cloud which is ALSO falling faster than the building. This proves the buildings fell well below free fall speed. That is, unless the beams had a rocket pointed to the ground.

Just look at any video you like and watch the perimeter columns.

Deceptive videos stop the timer of the fall at 10:09 when only the perimeter column hits the ground and not the building itself. If you notice, the building just finishes disappearing behind the debris cloud which is still about 40 stories high.

Below is a more accurate graphic using a paper written by Dr. Frank Greening which can be found at: http://www.911myths.com/WTCREPORT.pdf

Photos and more can be found at
Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Free Fall

^Wriggle all you like son - the people see through you.

Originally Posted by MrG

I know. But it looks like Daffy is trying to raise a new generation of Tin Hatters on old lies. I'm just trying to nip it in the bud.

"You're either with us or with the terrorists?"

Gentle posters - this tells you all you need to know about "MrG"

Originally Posted by Dapper

^Wriggle all you like son - the people see through you.

Originally Posted by MrG

I know. But it looks like Daffy is trying to raise a new generation of Tin Hatters on old lies. I'm just trying to nip it in the bud.

"You're either with us or with the terrorists?"

Gentle posters - this tells you all you need to know about "MrG"

Dear Daffy,
And just who are the terrorists? Isn't the answer to that question the point of this whole conspiracy thing you've frothed up. Are you suggesting that I'm a supporter of the "conspirators" you claim took down the buildings. Your train of thought is clearly off the rails.
Personal insults are not going to dig you out of the bullshit-hole you've dug yourself into. Just defend your position with facts, not the list of statements and questions that you posted earlier. Then you can make personal insults from a position of strength, like me.
But then, as Wise Barracuda says, this is all getting very repetitive.

Originally Posted by MrG

And just who are the terrorists? Isn't the answer to that question the point of this whole conspiracy thing you've frothed up.

Google "Kevin Ryan - Another Nineteen"

Originally Posted by MrG

Are you suggesting that I'm a supporter of the "conspirators" you claim took down the buildings.

Personally I think you're just another brain-washed American, but you could be a shill for sure.

Originally Posted by MrG

Your train of thought is clearly off the rails.

Nope, I'm posting hardcore scientific research and you're posting from looney tunes websites, so clearly it's you that's off the rails.

Originally Posted by MrG

Personal insults are not going to dig you out of the bullshit-hole you've dug yourself into

You're in the hole son - I'm standing on top of the mountain.

Originally Posted by MrG

Just defend your position with facts

Says the man who posts shit
- you joker.

Originally Posted by MrG

Then you can make personal insults from a position of strength, like me.

Originally Posted by Dapper

Google "Kevin Ryan - Another Nineteen"

A little snippet from Amazon

Most Helpful Customer Reviews

179 of 186 people found the following review helpful

5.0 out of 5 stars A Masterpiece of Deep Reporting

By David Chandler on July 3, 2013

Format: Paperback

How much do you know about Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Frank Carlucci of the Carlyle Group, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, FBI Director Louis Freeh, CIA Director George Tenet, "Counterterrorism Czar" Richard Clarke, FAA hijack coordinator Michael Canavan, FAA Command Center operations manager Benedict Sliney, General Ralph Eberhart of NORAD, Carl Truscott of the Secret Service, former CIA Director John Deutch, Undersecretary of Defense John Hamre, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitiz, Peter Janson of AMEC Construction, Iraq Occupation Governor L. Paul Bremer, National Commission on Terrorism Advisor Brian Michael Jenkins, Wirt Walker of KuwAm Corp., Barry McDaniel of Stratesec, New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Duane Andrews of SAIC, Congressman Porter Goss (That's more than 19, and there are actually more mentioned in the book.)

Do you know about Richard Clarke's close ties with the United Arab Emirates? Did you know that L. Paul Bremer's parent company occupied the exact floors where the North Tower was struck by Flight 11, or that another company Bremer directed patented a thermite demolition device? This book provides extensive background on many key individuals and connects the dots. A common objection to the idea of insider participation in 9/11 is that people cannot imagine Americans who would actually do such a thing. This book makes insider participation much more understandable and believable. The result is not to close the book on who did 9/11; it rather opens the book, exposes the players, and calls for a real investigation. It is a masterpiece of deep reporting.

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Uhhh, Daffy. That's a book review, not a book. And all it has are questions. What can I say?

^^
Whatever information you've got, you're clearly playing close to the chest.
Clearly, you've got nothing but bombast and blather.
I'll step out of your way now so you can go full speed ahead. Don't forget to strap your tin-hat down.

^Yeah, see ya pal, take care

Originally Posted by MrG

Uhhh, Daffy. That's a book review, not a book. And all it has are questions. What can I say?

Nothing to say mate - you just said it all

Robot Check

Really, worth a read guys.

Only a few quid.

Here's a few customer reviews of Kevin Ryan's "Another Nineteen", taken from Amazon.


"This book provides over 300 pages of mind-blowing connections and coincidences of which the US government didn't bother to bat an eyelash at. If the 9/11 [C]ommission Report had based its tale on evidence rather than torture testimony, it may have found some truth. Kevin Ryan's research required no water-boarding, and so we should have a bit more trust in it than what the government gave us by bringing the man behind the Iran-Contra investigation (Lee Hamilton) to serve as vice chairman of the 9/11 whitewash. No one so much as lost their job as a consequence of horribly failing us on 9/11, and Bush/Cheney were never forced to testify on the record. Real patriots like Ryan are doing their best to keep the truth from being taken out of our historical account and conscience. Couple that with Ryan's previous involvement with the obvious discrepancies between Underwriters Laboratories and NIST, as well as his work on several scientific papers detailing the disturbing evidence found in the WTC dust, and it becomes quite clear that we were not given the full story"


"Another Nineteen is astounding in the depth and breadth of research Kevin Ryan presents. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who is interested in the 9/11 attacks will learn many things from this book. I’ll mention just a few items that most surprised and engaged me. The history and vast connections Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had with people connected to 9/11 were new to me. Kevin not only documents these connections but also suggests some motives that might have pushed these men to mastermind the attacks. I had no idea that Ben Sliney’s first day on the job as national operations manager at the FAA Command Center was September 11, 2001, nor did I realize that the 9/11 Commission mentioned the name of the hijack coordinator at FAA headquarters, Lt. Gen. Michael A. Canavan, only once – to say he was previously Commander of the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), which ran the military’s counter-terrorism and covert missions. This fact alone begs further investigation into Canavan’s actions on 9/11 and before. Canavan’s history with JSOC and other similar outfits is also highly interesting. I found Kevin’s chapter on the Pentagon fascinating. I’m glad Kevin sidestepped the same old questions and looked at it from a fresh perspective. I had never heard the name Frank Probst before reading Another Nineteen. Probst was heavily involved in signals and communications for the military. Twelve minutes before impact, Probst was said to be completing an inspection of computer room air conditioning equipment and a first floor telephone closet just inside of the wall where the plane impacted. This allows us to speculate as to whether he was tending to some equipment that was used to guide the airplane into the Pentagon under computer control"


"Kevin Ryan is one of the most top notch and comprehensive researchers in the field of 9/11 studies. He is almost unparalleled in his ability to process and lay out large amounts of information into a digestible format that the average American can and must understand. Kevin has covered such topics as the Secret Service's role in 9/11, the U.S.S. Cole bombing, the 9/11 Commission, the plight of the First Responders, and more, all in an in depth manner at his website at Dig Within | The blog of Kevin Ryan In this latest book he covers the often asked question of who could have pulled off something this complex if it wasn't the 19 hijackers that the media and the government officials so quickly and repeatedly laid out for us. This book is a gift to all of us and the entire population of the U.S. Any self-respecting journalist, any potential politicians interested in an investigation, and any lawyers or Department of Justice officials so inclined can now rely on this information to lay out the basics of a court case convincingly with quality information. Kevin has done the work for us in this latest compilation on the topic of 9/11 and this information is on the public record and will stand the test of time. It only requires the will for more of us to look into these facts, the history of this life changing event, and then share the truth."


"This represents a decent investigation of people and events that comprise the 9/11 'myth' and other 'terrorist' activities. An in depth look at the controlling of many 'terrorist' events by the same powerful people, irrespective of the country/group blamed for the event. Burrows right into the 'deep state' of finance/politics/military - provides viable explanations for motives, timings and benefits of many 'terrorist' actions and reveals just how long and organised the whole 'new world order' scenario has been in place. Unlike the traditional media reports (propaganda) that we are fed with daily, this deals with the evidence on a logical and rational basis to come to conclusions that fit the facts, not the manipulation of evidence to support a pre-formed conclusion.
Should be required reading for all."


"An excellent book. The science of the events of 9/11, for a candid mind, are beyond question. Now we must ask of the motivations, opportunity, perpetrators, pathology, and our individual responsibilities for these horrific wars and innocent lives we have taken. The people named in this book have so many common threads from the Middle-East, intelligence, to Lower Manhattan, Pentagon, and the seats of power in our government. I think we all share responsibility and we have a lot of work to do. So much secrecy in a free society - Can secrecy and freedom coexist? - Not long; I think this book is a fruitful direction."