Bugger it. On the basis that anything harry says is bullshit, I'm going to have to switch sides now.
FLAKE you ignorant piece of turd, you are right. Palestinians gave up their country to the eurozios in good faith, as it was a barren infertile land, with nothing on it before. There was no bombing, no jewterrorists, no land grab, and certainly no Nukes. Bibi the Butcher is a lovely man, definitely not a pedo or a crook, and all Palis (as your hero Piwi would call them to dehumanisae them and justify their slaughter) deserve to be wiped out.
Oh I see, you were making a subtle point that the oil belongs to the Palestinians because you feel that Palestine should be there instead of Israel and therefore all the oil in the Levant basin should belong to the Palestinians . Now I see
Why didnt you just say that in the first place ?
When you claimed that Israel were stealing Palestinian oil, I thought that you meant that Israel were stealing Palestinian oil
Meanwhile, back on topic, Trump plays games.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...assy-jerusalem
what basically happened was that Bibi the Butcher got his rentboy PA to call Trump. Called him on a Sunday morning when he was still coked off his nut. "Boss sez you need to move US embassy to Jerusalem. Do it, boy, or else" or something like that. Trump tweets it, it's picked up by the biblebashing retards, and then the press. The last advisor with more brains than flake grabbed him by the shoulders and reminded him his job was to start a endless war in Asia against the Chinese and to stop irritating the rag heads. So now he is back tracking.
OK, I am correcting, not in NYC but in USA (almost, but I did not count them):
The number of Jews in the United States has been the subject of much debate because of questions over counting methodology. In 2012, Sheskin and Dashefsky put forward a figure of 6.72 million based on a mixture of local surveys, informed local estimates, and US census data. They qualified their estimate with a concern over double counting and suggested the real figure may lie between 6 and 6.4 million.[20] Drawing on their work, the Steinhardt Social Research Institute released their own estimate of 6.8 million Jews in the United States in 2013.[21]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish...ion_by_country
1 Israel 6,336,400 44%
2 United States 5,700,000 39.5%
Jewish Population of the World
The worldwide Jewish population is 13.3 million Jews. Jewish population growth worldwide is close to zero percent. From 2000 to 2001 it rose 0.3%, compared to worldwide population growth of 1.4%.
In 2001, 8.3 million Jews lived in the Diaspora and 4.9 million lived in Israel. Just about half of the world’s Jews reside in the Americas, with about 46 percent in North America. (top)
Approximately 37% of worldwide Jewry lives in Israel. Israel's Jewish population rose by 1.6% the past year, while the Diaspora population dropped by 0.5%.
Europe, including the Asian territories of the Russian Republic and Turkey, accounts for about 12 percent of the total. Fewer than 2 percent of the world’s Jews live in Africa and Oceania.
Metropolitan Tel Aviv, with 2.5 million Jews, is the world's largest Jewish city. It is followed by New York, with 1.9 million, Haifa 655,000, Los Angeles 621,000, Jerusalem 570,000, and southeast Florida 514,000.
The top twelve Jewish populations in the world are:
1. USA 6,500,000
2. Israel 4,950,000
https://www.simpletoremember.com/vit...population.htm
I can understand if some people here have an issue with Jerusalem and Israel. But I get a big laugh when these muslim dictators start to cry like women and treat their OWN people like shit. Let's hear what ErDOGan has to say:
Turkey's Erdogan threatens cutting ties with Israel over Jerusalem issue
ANKARA - President Tayyip Erdogan said on Tuesday Turkey could go as far as breaking off diplomatic ties with Israel if the United States formally recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, a move he said would be a "red line" for Muslims.
Erdogan is the latest in a string of regional leaders, including Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Jordan's King Hussein to warn of negative implications of the move.
The possibility that Trump may make the announcement has also stirred opposition from US officials who fear it could unleash violence.
Such a decision, which US officials have said has not been finalized, would violate decades of US policy not to take a stance on the fate of Jerusalem on the grounds that this was an issue Israelis and Palestinians should negotiate and decide.
If Trump made such a move, it could spark demonstrations or violence by Palestinians or by Muslims around the world, in part because of the sensitivity of the Jerusalem site known to Jews as the Temple Mount and to Muslims as Haram al-Sharif.
Diplomatic officials responded to Erdogan's threats and warnings not to move the US embassy to Jerusalem, saying, "Jerusalem has been the capital of the Jewish people for 3000 years, and of Israel for the last 70 - whether Erdogan recognizes that or not."
Israel's Education Minister Naftali Bennett was quick to respond.
"Unfortunately, Erdogan does not miss an opportunity to attack Israel. Israel must advance its goals, including the recognition of United Jerusalem as the Capital of the State of Israel," Bennett said in a statement. "There will always be those who criticize, but at the end of the day it is better to have a united Jerusalem than Erdogan's sympathy."
Transportation and Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz said that Israel "does not take directives or threats from Turkey."
Israel is a "sovereign state, and Jerusalem is its capital," Katz said. "There is nothing more historically just or right than to recognize Jerusalem, which has been the capital of the Jewish people for 3,000 years, as the capital of the State of Israel. The days of the Sultan and the Ottoman Empire are over."
According to Channel 10 sources, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee on Monday that Israeli security forces are prepared for an escalation in violence should Trump announce US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital.
"We are prepared for every possibility. The security forces know best how to act, if and when it is necessary," Netanyahu is reported to have told the committee's members.
Opposition leader Isaac Herzog said the Jewish people's connection to Jerusalem "cannot be erased," in a statement released on Tuesday.
"Jerusalem and its holy sites are the source of the strength and vitality of our people, its center of attraction, the object of its dreams and longing and longing that have existed for thousands of years. The deep connection of the people of Israel and the State of Israel to Jerusalem, the Temple Mount, the Western Wall and the Mount of Olives and all the holy places of our people can not be erased. Jerusalem has been the eternal capital of the Jewish people for 3,000 years and no one can change it. Not in words or in threats," Herzog said.
If the U.S. pulls this through, I'am sure the religion of peace will show restrain.![]()
What this really is that Under Criminal Investigation Bibi the Butcher wants a nice few months of slaughtering women and children in Gaza to take attention away from him for a while, so he told Trump to make the announcement whilst getting the napalm and white phosphorous on order from the Merkins.
^^ Put all that in context of how diplomatic relations between Turkey and Israel have only recently been restored after they were destroyed when Israel murdered the Marvi Marama passengers in international waters.
It is so very common for people like you, Herman, in your hatred for Muslims, to forget all Israel's atrocities (Nazi-like atrocities ironically).
^ Yes, speaking of atrocities.
Don’t think it will happen. Just more smoke and mirrors- his only trick
When Donald says hes going to do something, he usually does do it
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-con...nians-11157831
Fact: Atrocities are occuring every day in Palestine, committed by the Israelis.
Fact: Every Prime Minister of Israel throughout history would be under criminal investigation in any other country if he/she were not an Israeli Jew.
Fact: Bringing up Muslim issues in other Muslim countries does not excuse Israel.
Fact: Apologists for Israeli terrorism always divert by bringing up Muslim issues.
Urrrrmmm, firstly, no he rarely does it. The list of unfullfilled promises is long.
Secondly, he's a fkcken idiot for doing this. It is provocative, pointless, and brings more insecurity to the US.
Thirdly, the wanker shows his ignorance once again in saying Jerusalem has been Israeli for 7 decades.
Fourthly....in light of the Russian ties debacle, is he here wagging the dog and diverting attention? I feel Jared is involved, and most certainly there was a deal with Bibi the Butcher.
I dont follow what he says much , but he does seem to get things done .
I do agree that its a provocative thing to do and that my be the reason for doing it , unrest will probably be in neighboring Countries and it will have little effect on the USA or Israel , its not as anyone could dislike them anymore than they do now .
Although he is correct about Jerusalem being Israels capital for the last 70 years , although 70 years ago, it was just West Jerusalem .
Trump to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital and move US embassy – White House
Officials confirm that US president will break with decades of diplomacy in a move many warn will trigger unrest in the region
Donald Trump will declare formal recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel on Wednesday the White House has said, breaking with years of precedent and potentially leading to unpredictable consequences for the Middle East.
The region is braced for the prospect of unrest in anticipation of the declaration, due at 1pm in Washington, and US embassies around the world have been advised by the state department to bolster their security.
US government employees have been told to avoid Jerusalem’s Old City and the West Bank until further notice.
In his remarks to be delivered in a diplomatic reception room in the White House, Trump will base his decision on ancient history and current political realities that the Israeli legislature and many government offices are in Jerusalem. He will also order the state department to start the process of planning and building a new US embassy in Jerusalem, but White House officials said that process would take at least three years.
Until the new embassy is completed and opened, the official US mission will remain in Tel Aviv and the president will continue to sign a six-month waiver of congressional legislation that demands the embassy is moved, but only to spare the state department from budget penalties embedded in the 1995 act.
Officials made clear that Trump would not follow the practice of his predecessors, who used the waiver to prevent any action on the embassy move to avoid derailing any progress towards an Israeli-Palestinian settlement.
“For a long time the United States’ position held that ambiguity, or lack of acknowledgement would somehow advance the prospects of peace,” a senior administration official said.
“It seems clear now that the physical location of the embassy is not material to a peace deal. .. So having tried this for 22 years, an acknowledgement of reality seems like an important change.”
Trump’s declaration will mark the latest unilateral break from US allies on a major issue, after decisions to walk out of the Paris Climate accord, to abandon multilateral trade negotiations with partners in Europe and Asia, and to threaten to abrogate an international nuclear deal with Iran.
In making his decision, following through on an election campaign promise, Trump shrugged off appeals from leaders from France, the EU, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and other key allies. They urged him not to prejudge an issue that would be at the heart of any comprehensive deal, which is something his administration has made a foreign policy priority, entrusted to the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner.
On the eve of his announcement, Trump made a series of calls to leaders in the region, including Jordan’s King Abdullah, Egypt’s President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, King Salman of Saudi Arabia, the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and the Palestinian persident, Mahmoud Abbas.
Abbas’s spokesman, Nabil Abu Rdeneh, said the Palestinian leader had warned Trump of the dangers of such a decision to Middle East peace efforts as well as security and stability in the region and the world.
King Abdullah issued a statement telling Trump that such a decision would have “dangerous repercussions on the stability and security of the region” and would obstruct US efforts to resume Arab-Israeli peace talks.
King Salman was reported by the Saudi Press Agency to have told Trump: “Such a dangerous step is likely to inflame the passions of Muslims around the world due to the great status of Jerusalem and the al-Aqsa Mosque.”
Kushner, in his role as presidential advisor, has been leading a diplomatic initiative aimed at concluding the comprehensive Middle East deal that has eluded previous admissions. The White House insisted that Trump’s announcement would not derail that effort.
“Nothing in this decision speaks to a final status resolution, or boundaries or sovereignty issues,” a senior administration official said. “It doesn’t change the status quo with respect to the holy sites and other very sensitive issues.
“We are leaving space for the Palestinians, for this peace process to move forward.”
Another White House official said the Kushner initiative was making progress even though little had been heard about it.
“There are things happening that the people directly involved in the talks know about that people around the world don’t know about that will become known when the time is right,” the official said. “That is one of the reasons that the president is still very optimistic.”
However, Middle East experts have questioned the wisdom of the decision.
“A better prepared, less clumsy process could have produced an announcement to actually move the embassy to Jerusalem, which is where it belongs,” Daniel Shapiro, a former US ambassador to Israel, said.
“A smart approach could have used that announcement to reinforce our strategic objective, which is a two-state solution to end the conflict.”
“Instead the president is leaving us half-pregnant. Israelis deserve to have their capital recognized and our embassy located there. Palestinians need to know that the capital of their state will be in East Jerusalem,” Shapiro, now a visiting fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv, said.
“Instead of being clear on both of these points, the President has chosen a purely rhetorical approach, changing nothing on the ground, but spinning up significant controversy for virtually no gain.”
US officials said that building a modern embassy anywhere in the world took three or four years at least, and Jerusalem would be no exception.
“In today’s world whether we are dealing with the Americas, Africa, Asia, Middle East, we don’t just put a plaque on a door and open a mission,” a senior official said.
“There are major security and structural concerns and very strict guidelines everywhere in the world that have to be followed before that flag goes up and that plaque goes on. Jerusalem is no exception to those rules.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...sy-white-house
“If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.
The Marvi Marama was in international waters when boarded by armed Israeli soldiers. Any ship is entitled to defend itself in international waters, besides that fact the boarding pirates were attacked with pipes and slingshots against the pirate's guns.
Nonetheless, my point remains that Israel has only recently resumed diplomatic relations with Israel, and that was only after a $20 million settlement to Turkey (admission of guilt, much?)
True that there is not much more dislike possible.
I'm not so sure about "little effect". This could be a beacon for Islamic terrorists and it will be innocent Americans that die, and I have no doubt whatsoever that Bibi is rubbing his hands with glee at the prospect of yet another intifada whereupon he will slaughter more Palestinians and use the violence as an excuse to demolish more Arab houses in E. Jerusalem, and to increase settlement building. No doubt whatsoever. I'll put money on it.
Well, let's see how Iran and the fanatics will react. Maybe this was just a plan B to provoke Iran and get things blowing.....ahemm going.
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