Thread: Hostages held in siege in Martin Place, Sydney in lockdown

Talk to the vast majority of Australians and they will consider this no more serious than that fukin nutter Martin Bryant who offed a heap of people down in Tasmania.

Sick fuks everywhere in today's world.

Jesus,

Two innocent people killed is not a bad result in this this fuked up world of ours .

Never mind Terry, you can take consolation from the fact that death here in Thailand is stalking a damn sight more folk than any where else in the world, bar the usual suspects.

^

Na,

Here in Thailand siege situations do not happen except for the odd fuk up who has over dosed on Ya-Ba.

I like it here as they do not fuk around, they off bad people.

I like that.

Australia is piss poor mate, way too many human rights shit being bandied around.

Get the gun going EH.

Actually, Terry, I was referring to the 35,000 or so folk who will die this year, and every year in Thailand, either on the roads or at the hands of a murderer.

Australia is really a nice place in comparison and your disaffection is probably more symptomatic of your own jaundiced view rather than justified by any external factor. Well, apart from the cellulite ridden, fat-arsed Sheilas that is, Australian soaps too and that dreadful accent made worse by ending every sentence as a question.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Actually, Terry, I was referring to the 35,000 or so folk who will die this year, and every year in Thailand, either on the roads or at the hands of a murderer.

Thailand murders last year 3500
Road deaths 8000 .
Do you intend going on a killing spree to bring the figure up to 35 000 next year ?

You really have to be the stupidest person on this board.

The pixies play at the bottom of the garden, Santa is going to visit you this month, the Easter Bunny will bring you Easter eggs, there really is a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow and you probably actually believe those figures of yours.

Lest you continue to wallow in ignorance, the last survey by any number of organisations place Thailand as a country where road fatalities each year range between 26,000 and 28,000 on average.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

... Australian...... that dreadful accent made worse by ending every sentence as a question.

They do that!

Aussies don't do that do they?

Yes they do?

Yeah, they like to end their sentences with inflections?

Mate, they don't do that?

Apparently Man Haron Monis had a gun licence? (said with an irritating Australian inspired [but British] accent).

Really? With the name Sheik Man Hardon, damned if I'd give him a license to pick his nose.

Apparently so: BBC News - Sydney cafe siege: Probe into gunman's asylum and gun licence

Sydney cafe siege: Probe into gunman's asylum and gun licence

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has announced a review into the background and security checks on the man behind the Sydney cafe siege.

Mr Abbott said questions must be asked about how Man Haron Monis was not on a watch list despite a history of violence and mental instability.

Speaking in Canberra on Wednesday, Mr Abbott said he had great confidence in the police and security services, but that he wanted "answers to some obvious questions that have been raised in the wake of this terrorist incident".

He said the authorities needed to know how Monis had acquired permanent residency in Australia, how he lived on welfare for many years while apparently physically able, how he obtained a gun licence and "how someone with such a long record of violence and instability was out on bail".

Originally Posted by Neverna

Apparently so: BBC News - Sydney cafe siege: Probe into gunman's asylum and gun licence

Sydney cafe siege: Probe into gunman's asylum and gun licence

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has announced a review into the background and security checks on the man behind the Sydney cafe siege.

Mr Abbott said questions must be asked about how Man Haron Monis was not on a watch list despite a history of violence and mental instability.

Speaking in Canberra on Wednesday, Mr Abbott said he had great confidence in the police and security services, but that he wanted "answers to some obvious questions that have been raised in the wake of this terrorist incident".

He said the authorities needed to know how Monis had acquired permanent residency in Australia, how he lived on welfare for many years while apparently physically able, how he obtained a gun licence and "how someone with such a long record of violence and instability was out on bail".

Police have confirmed he did not have a gun licence.......

http://www.theguardian.com/australia...P=share_btn_tw

The clickbait reporting of this incident is pretty disgusting

Sky has this headline which has been picked up by others....

Sydney Siege Killer Was Given A 'Gun Licence'


Sydney Siege Killer Was Given A 'Gun Licence'
The PM orders an investigation into how the gunman, who had a history of violence, was reportedly granted a firearms licence.


While if you read through to the end, after mentioning he had a licence a dozen times it goes on to say NSW Police confirm he has never applied for one.....

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Australia is really a nice place in comparison and your disaffection is probably more symptomatic of your own jaundiced view rather than justified by any external factor

Sounds like your "good self" talking about Thailand, thegent...Have another sausage, yes?...

Originally Posted by Necron99

While if you read through to the end, after mentioning he had a licence a dozen times it goes on to say NSW Police confirm he has never applied for one.....

So how did they get it wrong ?

Man Haron Monis: The 10 fatal failures that led to a horrific day


AT least 10 catastrophic failings by federal and state agencies led to the Martin Place atrocity, which Prime Minister Tony Abbott yesterday admitted could have been a “preventable tragedy”.
Had one of the failings been overturned, the terrorist attack which rocked a nation to the core might have been prevented.

A furious Mr Abbott yesterday vowed a swift outcome to an urgent review he ordered on Wednesday into every aspect of the siege.
He said the failings, which happened under a string of governments, were a “horrific wake-up call”.
“It may well have been a preventable atrocity, and that’s why this swift and thorough review is so important,’’ he said.
“This guy has a long history of violence, he has a long history of mental instability, he has a long criminal record and an obvious infatuation with extremism, so it was extraordinary he was on our streets.”

In December last year Man Monis was granted bail in Penrith Local Court despite being charged with being an accessory before and after the fact to killing his ex-wife Noleen Hayson Pal. She was stabbed 18 times and set alight in one of the state’s most brutal murders. Bail was granted under old bail laws that made it easier for criminals to be set free.

FAILED: SAVED FROM EXTRADITION
In 2000 Iran attempted to extradite Monis from Australia back to his homeland to face fraud charges. Monis had defrauded clients who had paid him money as part of the travel agency he owned.
Australia refused the request because there was no extradition treaty between the two nations.

FAILED: DROPPED OFF WATCH LIST
Intelligence agencies had Monis on the terror watch list before he dropped off it in about 2010.
Had he been on the list he more than likely would not have been granted bail.

FAILED: GRANTED CITIZENSHIP
Monis was granted Australian citizenship in 2004 despite a warrant being out in Iran for his arrest.
He should have faced justice in his homeland far earlier. Instead he was granted citizenship in Australia.
The Iranian foreign ministry said Australian authorities knew about Monis’s problems.

FAILED: ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTRY
The terrorist first came to Australia in 1996 and was granted political refugee status. The Iranian government were chasing him for fraud. Despite the allegations he was allowed into Australia.

FAILED: GIVEN LEGAL AID
After he wrote disgraceful letters to widows of Australian war heroes Monis used Legal Aid to go to the High Court in a bid for the trial to be aborted. The taxpayers paid the bill.

FAILED: GUN LICENCE MIX-UP
National databases, which interstate police use to share information, indicated Monis held a gun licence.
Mr Abbott confirmed on Wednesday Monis had a licence, but it was later revealed the database was wrong and the AFP was forced to explain the error in the system.

“The AFP has been working closely with CrimTrac, federal and state partners to establish the source of the entry, and to identify any shortfalls within the current system,’’ a statement said.

FAILED: ALLOWED TO LIVE ON WELFARE
The terrorist lived off the hard work of everyday Australians.
If he was not allowed to claim welfare it would have made it more difficult for him to stay in Australia.

FAILED: MULTIPLE IDENTITIES
Tracking the terrorist throughout his 18 years in Australia proved difficult because he had multiple aliases.
Man Haron Monis came to Australia as Mohammad Hassan Manteghi.
He was later known as Sheik Haron. It is believed he had other names.

FAILED: INFORMATION NOT SHARED
Questions have been raised about whether commonwealth and state agencies share enough information. It is believed agencies made decisions without having access to information that other agencies knew about. It will form part of the urgent review ordered by Prime Minister Abbott.

Man Haron Monis: The 10 fatal failures

^ pointless beat up

Originally Posted by kingwilly

FAILED: SAVED FROM EXTRADITION
In 2000 Iran attempted to extradite Monis from Australia back to his homeland to face fraud charges. Monis had defrauded clients who had paid him money as part of the travel agency he owned.
Australia refused the request because there was no extradition treaty between the two nations.

FAILED: DROPPED OFF WATCH LIST
Intelligence agencies had Monis on the terror watch list before he dropped off it in about 2010.
Had he been on the list he more than likely would not have been granted bail.

FAILED: GRANTED CITIZENSHIP
Monis was granted Australian citizenship in 2004 despite a warrant being out in Iran for his arrest.
He should have faced justice in his homeland far earlier. Instead he was granted citizenship in Australia.
The Iranian foreign ministry said Australian authorities knew about Monis’s problems.

FAILED: ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTRY
The terrorist first came to Australia in 1996 and was granted political refugee status. The Iranian government were chasing him for fraud. Despite the allegations he was allowed into Australia.

FAILED: GIVEN LEGAL AID
After he wrote disgraceful letters to widows of Australian war heroes Monis used Legal Aid to go to the High Court in a bid for the trial to be aborted. The taxpayers paid the bill.

FAILED: GUN LICENCE MIX-UP
National databases, which interstate police use to share information, indicated Monis held a gun licence.
Mr Abbott confirmed on Wednesday Monis had a licence, but it was later revealed the database was wrong and the AFP was forced to explain the error in the system.

“The AFP has been working closely with CrimTrac, federal and state partners to establish the source of the entry, and to identify any shortfalls within the current system,’’ a statement said.

FAILED: ALLOWED TO LIVE ON WELFARE
The terrorist lived off the hard work of everyday Australians.
If he was not allowed to claim welfare it would have made it more difficult for him to stay in Australia.

FAILED: MULTIPLE IDENTITIES
Tracking the terrorist throughout his 18 years in Australia proved difficult because he had multiple aliases.
Man Haron Monis came to Australia as Mohammad Hassan Manteghi.
He was later known as Sheik Haron. It is believed he had other names.

FAILED: INFORMATION NOT SHARED
Questions have been raised about whether commonwealth and state agencies share enough information. It is believed agencies made decisions without having access to information that other agencies knew about. It will form part of the urgent review ordered by Prime Minister Abbott.

Originally Posted by One Of The Many Mentally Retarded Twats On TD

Yeah but fuck all that - BAN ISLAM IN AUSTRALIA

I should imagine the Abos feel as strongly about banning white men, and, certainly, with good reason.