Thread: Hostages held in siege in Martin Place, Sydney in lockdown

2)they believe (and stated to me) that everywhere in the world will become Islamic one day;
3) their religion is more important to them than the laws and institutions of non-Islamic nations.

which is why, in this age of islamic re awakening, it will always be impossible for muslims and non muslims to live harmoniously in the same communities.

if we dont accept their premise, they will force it upon us with violence and drag us civilised folk back to the dark ages.

fuck them and send them back to their shithole homelands where they can live in peace with each other, (as if such a thing is possible with the raghead mentality)

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Night vision scope on - check
Dan 338 loaded and safety off - check.

Fire when ready.

Shouldn't be too hard to find the target, he's a beardy twat with a bandana, a backpack and a big mouth.

Toss in a couple of pigs heads for good measure to,

Time for all religion to come with a government health warning.

Originally Posted by Looper

Mr Malik said the black flag used in the hostage situation contained the Muslim testimony of faith.
"The Shahada literally means the testimony of faith and Muslims believe it is a transcendental truth," he said.

Explained: Flag used in Sydney siege



The flag displayed during the siege at a Sydney cafe is not the same one used by the Islamic State terrorist group. Find out more.

Indeed, it's the standard profession of faith for Muslims. "There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger [Prophet] of God." (lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muhammad rasūlu-llāh)

There's a wiki page about it. Shahada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

they would come out of the mosque and look at me with hatred in their eyes;

how do you know what was in there eyes? Is your judgement a form of thought police?

09.38 The Telegraph's Jonathan Pearlman reports that it is thought the Lindt cafe gunman is not acting alone:
Quote I have just spoken to one of Australia’s leading experts on home-grown terrorism, Professor Greg Barton, who says the gunman is probably not acting alone and it is “very worrying” that he is an older man rather than a young firebrand.
Professor Greg Barton, from Monash University, says the attack appears to have been carefully planned for maximum exposure. He noted the prominent location – a café opposite a television station – and the early use of black Arabic banners which the man presumably knew would attract global attention.
“He is likely to be a part of a network of people operating in terrorist cells, possibly abroad. It would be more reassuring if it was an angry young man behaving without a sense of purpose. An older man going about it is a more sinister element.”
Professor Barton says the siege is “not surprising” and that global jihadist leaders have increasingly been foreign urging fighters to launch attacks at home rather than flock to Iraq and Syria.
“Australia, like the UK and like most Western nations, has a worryingly large take-up rate of recruiters reaching out to young men to fight in Syria and Iraq. Now the crusaders are saying not just to attack abroad but to attack where you are.”

Sydney siege: hostages held by 'Islamist' gunman in Lindt cafe - Telegraph

I bet this lot could do with a coffee about now while apparently the terrorist is on his 15th double expresso according to one hostages tweet..

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

...But, going to the mosque 5 times a day does rather force the religion into the foreground - I'm very much against that element.

They should pray 5 times a day. They don't have to go to the mosque 5 times a day. They can pray at home (or work).

outside of the insanity of their religion, they are real people and often very nice and decent folk too

they may be nice and decent, no more or less so than any other human, but the force driving their psychology, their behaviour, their soul is their religion, and that nice friendly neighbour can easily morph into your mortal enemy due to your lowly and unclean status as an infidel in an instant should their religion or their preacher decide so.

they are similar to the christianity drenched extremists of the 14th and 15th centuries persecuting non believers during the inquistion.

crazy people, best to give them a wide berth .... and send them back to mecca, because there is never any peace when there are muslims around in christian communities, it just cannot work, however many tree hugging well meaning liberal multiculturalists there are to say give them a chance.

Originally Posted by taxexile

d send them back to mecca,

and just how many of the billion muslims worldwide do you think are from Mecca?

Originally Posted by The Telegraph

I have just spoken to one of Australia’s leading experts on home-grown terrorism, Professor Greg Barton, who says the gunman is probably not acting alone ..He is likely to be a part of a network of people operating in terrorist cells, possibly abroad.

I always thought the Telegraph wanted to be taken seriously. Their second-hand speculation is no better than members Teak Door are capable of by themselves.

You do spurt some nonsense, Tax...

I can kinda see where you're coming from, but words like 'their psychology'/ 'their soul' is just make believe nonsense; it's culturally framed by manipulative discourse, and it happens on 'both sides'; no great surprise that the Bush family and Saudi Princes are living it up and laughing at the lot of us serfs.

People are people, some Muslim folks are affected by the discourse of extremism, some British folk are affected by the nonsense of Sky News. The reality is that the Saudis, Israelis, own own governments and others are just playing us all for sukers; the average man in the street (you and I, and the allied soldiers fighting in Muslim countries) and our Muslim 'friends'.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by The Telegraph

I have just spoken to one of Australia’s leading experts on home-grown terrorism, Professor Greg Barton, who says the gunman is probably not acting alone ..He is likely to be a part of a network of people operating in terrorist cells, possibly abroad.

I always thought the Telegraph wanted to be taken seriously. Their second-hand speculation is no better than members Teak Door are capable of by themselves.

Indeed. What crap. Another crap-spouting talking head.

I think this will end quietly.
He's been making demands all day that are not being broadcast, which he would surely want. he's had 12 hours to kill a hostage and demonstrate that he is serious and hasn't done so.
All well and good to radicalize someone on facebook, but these homegrown types haven't been brought up in a dirt poor medieval culture, which is the other half of creating hardcore jihadists.

Originally Posted by Necron99

I think this will end quietly.
He's been making demands all day that are not being broadcast, which he would surely want. he's had 12 hours to kill a hostage and demonstrate that he is serious and hasn't done so.

Demonstrate what? If he kills a hostage they'll go straight in.

Originally Posted by Looper

Time for all religion to come with a government health warning.

Better yet, just dissolve.

Especially, the backward Abrahamic variety.
They offer nothing but problems and destruction for the world - always have.

Originally Posted by Necron99

I think this will end quietly.
He's been making demands all day that are not being broadcast, which he would surely want. he's had 12 hours to kill a hostage and demonstrate that he is serious and hasn't done so.
All well and good to radicalize someone on facebook, but these homegrown types haven't been brought up in a dirt poor medieval culture, which is the other half of creating hardcore jihadists.

Hope so. The news said the lights are off. 13 hours of high stress, he'll be sleepy soon.

Originally Posted by Necron99

All well and good to radicalize someone on facebook, but these homegrown types haven't been brought up in a dirt poor medieval culture, which is the other half of creating hardcore jihadists.

I disagree, most Mulism terrorists who indulge in violence are well educated , usually middle class .
The poor ones do not usually become violent terrorists .
Typically Western Muslim terrorists are well educated people who turn to violence , the extremists are usually either converts or radicalised Muslims .

Originally Posted by Fluke

The poor ones do not usually become violent terrorists .

No money in being a suicide bomber.

Originally Posted by Fluke

most Mulism terrorists

Got any evidence for that statistic?

Originally Posted by kingwilly

... 13 hours of high stress, he'll be sleepy soon.

Plus reportedly around 8 double espressos or more wracking his nerves.

I wonder if he's got any Red Bull, a few cans of that on top.....that'll learn him, he won't know whether to sleep or keep speeding.

Originally Posted by Fluke

I disagree, most Mulism terrorists who indulge in violence are well educated , usually middle class .

muslim terrorists aren't educated, they're indoctrinated.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Fluke

most Mulism terrorists

Got any evidence for that statistic?

No. Just an observation

Originally Posted by Fluke

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Fluke

most Mulism terrorists

Got any evidence for that statistic?

No. Just made it up

Thought so.