Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

So it seems there are 5 UK plods in total then.

What would have been clever is if they had a white Thai speaker with them so that that person could understand all the chat between the locals and BIB that they assumed could not be be understood. Hopefully at least they have their own translator with them and will not be relying on a local chickenhead supplied by the crime syndicate in brown.

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If they are half as good as everybody thinks, they would be 'wired". Record all the chatter and have it translated back at their operations base in BKK....

Originally Posted by koman

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If they are half as good as everybody thinks, they would be 'wired". Record all the chatter and have it translated back at their operations base in BKK....

Indeed. It does rather depend upon them not believing a word they are told which really is police 101 in most civilized countries. I would imagine the they will politely smile and listen to the thai cops, nod their heads, and walk off for a smoke laughing about what a bunch of twats they are just as Prattyuth publicly states that the British cops are in agreement that the myanmar boys did it and the Thai police are truly world class.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

So it seems there are 5 UK plods in total then.

What would have been clever is if they had a white Thai speaker with them so that that person could understand all the chat between the locals and BIB that they assumed could not be be understood. Hopefully at least they have their own translator with them and will not be relying on a local chickenhead supplied by the crime syndicate in brown.

I'm certain that the UK Embassy will have provided their own more than adequate translation support and they won't be reliant on the Thai Police translating for them.

As with most other countries, the UK has a lot of commercial and legal interaction with Thailand, so their own translators are essential.

Originally Posted by koman

I read that the academic star has left Thailand, although the sources are not the most reliable, but where is the information about the others leaving coming from?

Generally speaking they would probably be better off staying in Thailand if they are anywhere near as well "protected" as is claimed.
....unless they were "advised" to leave by the very people who are supposed to be protecting them....because the noose is getting a bit too tight for comfort, and bribes/payoffs can only do so much..... It's unlikely they ever imagined things would get so out of control.

In a double murder case with such a high profile, it might be difficult to just lay low in another country waiting for things to cool off....if Scotland Yard and Interpol get on their trail. There's a lot being invested in cracking this case and nailing the right people.

By leaving the country in the midst of this investigations, these characters would have put themselves under the microscope even more. Before leaving; the visiting police will probably be handing the BIB a four page list of reasons why these guys should be arrested and charged. If warrants were issued, what country would give sanctuary to such people under these circumstances?

I agree with you almost 100%.

But Thaksin can move over theres a new kid on the block.

Originally Posted by PAG

Originally Posted by pseudolus

So it seems there are 5 UK plods in total then.

What would have been clever is if they had a white Thai speaker with them so that that person could understand all the chat between the locals and BIB that they assumed could not be be understood. Hopefully at least they have their own translator with them and will not be relying on a local chickenhead supplied by the crime syndicate in brown.

I'm certain that the UK Embassy will have provided their own more than adequate translation support and they won't be reliant on the Thai Police translating for them.

As with most other countries, the UK has a lot of commercial and legal interaction with Thailand, so their own translators are essential.

The truth is we don't really know what the Brits are doing or thinking and we won't until they are ready. One thing for sure they are not like this bunch of ers, telling us how wonderful they are at any given opportunity.
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Blatently walking into the crime scene...

There's an interesting connection between the Koh Tao murder investigation and a recent re-assignment of a crime-busting Phuket cop:

https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...ly-pulled.html (Phuket's Top Crimebuster Cop Suddenly Pulled Off Taxi, Jet-Ski Probes Into 'Mafia')

Apparently the cop who was pulled from the Phuket taxi and jet-ski 'mafia' investigations was also involved in charging the two young Burmese men with the Koh Tao murders.

well that's quite a u-turn

Earlier today, police detained the brother of a village headman on Koh Tao and said they were seeking his son for questioning in the murder the two British tourists.

Originally Posted by Neo

well that's quite a u-turn

Note the date, Neo...

I believe this is old news...But interesting to read again...

Ah yes... my bad

How on earth could justice be done now~?

Even if the police force of a western country was involved.. all the evidence is tainted/tampered/removed/added etc..


I think people especially young backpackers need to be educated before they go there about how violent and vicious these "smiling Thais" are.

If you're going to defend a woman against being raped by 3 Thai men you need to go into to the situation using deadly force against them or you run away and get help.. Poor David probably in the heat of the moment went in there and pushed them or shouted to stop thinking they'd run away or give up..

Seal Team 6, or the Brit equivalent...Only answer now...I think it was Harry (the barracuda) who said about the cops, in general; they say "Bang!...Freeze!"...

Send 'em over now and nuke the Turtle Murder Island nobs...Heh...

Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter

If you're going to defend a woman against being raped by 3 Thai men you need to go into to the situation using deadly force against them or you run away and get help

Congratulations on your first ever sensible post. Well done.

True though - problem is if you did use deadly force, you would be fucked. The locals would fabricate a scenario that the Thais tried to stop him raping her, and in a jealous rage, he killed them all. The Thais would be hailed as martyrs and the farang would face life in jail or the needle. No way out of this type of situation.

Best idea is for people to stop coming to this god forsaken place - maybe then they would get the idea. Doubt it, they would blame the farangs for their troubles even then.

The Nation
October 28, 2014

Police officers failed to show up before the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) yesterday to answer questions related to the alleged torture of two Myanmar suspects, who are charged with murdering two Britons on Koh Tao last month.

The two suspects last week told a team from the Lawyers' Council of Thailand that they were tortured into confessing to murders they did not commit.

As a result, the NHRC's subcommittee on civilians' rights and political rights summoned representatives from the National Police Office (NPO) to provide information yesterday. However, the NPO told the NHRC that investigation into the case was already in the hands of the public prosecutors and that it needed to seek prior approval from the prosecutors before providing any details on the case to the NHRC.

NHRC commissioner Dr Niran Pitakwatchara, who chairs the subcommittee on civilians' rights and political rights, said yesterday that the NPO should realise that the NHRC is not "investigating" the murder.

"We are looking into the alleged abuse of human rights," he pointed out, adding that his subcommittee will summon the police again and will lodge a complaint if there is no response.

"Police must come before our subcommittee to provide information at 1.30pm on November 3," Niran said.

Meanwhile, the Koh Samui Court yesterday approved a police request that the suspects' detention be extended by another 12 days, as more time was needed to complete the investigation.

Public prosecutors have instructed investigators to gather more information for the third time, and police will work further into the case.

The judge said the suspects could be detained for up to 84 days.

An informed source, meanwhile, said British police had already started gathering information on the case. The British team stepped in after word spread that the 'real' culprit in the case might evade the long arm of the law.

Police bureau ignores NHRC summons - The Nation

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

The British team stepped in after word spread that the 'real' culprit in the case might evade the long arm of the law.

Tut tut Nation - there is no long arm of the law in Thailand unless they are referring to their long arms reaching into other peoples mostly shallow pockets to take their cash.

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

as more time was needed to complete the investigation.

Heh...They will never get their story straight...

Awesome post, bro ^ couldn't agree more..

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

as more time was needed to complete the investigation.

Heh...They will never get their story straight...

Yes It seems that there is no need until at least 84 days have past. By then they are hoping that it will all have gone quiet.

Sorry to go off topic. It is looking a bit like an American on Puket was lucky to escape with his life. Also looks like he was possibly stitched up.

I dose seem more and more like, if justice is really going to be seen here, the western nations have to really get together and start talking sanctions. With Thailand's human rights record bring in the UN human rights team and hit them hard. If not this case will be swept under the mat with the rest? I certainly hope I am wrong
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Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Blatently walking into the crime scene...

He's making sure all the foot prints were washed away with high tide.

You know that story circulating last week about the killings happening elsewhere- that I dismissed as ill informed rumour.....?

For the first time, I have been reading comments on CSI LA, or mostly the "Binged" up translations rather, and might need a third revision of my narrative.

I think the page is getting some insider updates of late from somebody really in the know.