Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

Whatever the Thai police do next a conspiracy theory will emerge to discredit it.

Seriously? Blue you still believe the Thai cops have the right people?

It is a conspiracy of course but not a theory - from the top down a very transparent cover up to save the face of some mafia and increasingly prayuth.

Originally Posted by blue

Whatever the Thai police do next a conspiracy theory will emerge to discredit it.

Well...
They don't have the most sterling of reputations.

So, you'll forgive anyone and everyone that questions their actions and motives.

This guy was apparently a suspect (aka, he did it, but was never arrested or questioned because of his connections) in another violent rape 2 years ago.

^ And it now turns out that this guy is none other than best buddies with the owner of the slum houses that the accused myanmar lads lived in!

Originally Posted by pseudolus

And it now turns out that this guy is none other than best buddies with the owner of the slum houses that the accused myanmar lads lived in!

Gotta love it..."PreyYouth" goes down at the hands of a slum lord...

They're rather odd places for someone to punch someone else....even in a scuffle. Though perhaps he turned the ring around 180 degrees ?

But there are too many coincidences and unanswered questions in the case.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

They're rather odd places for someone to punch someone else....even in a scuffle. Though perhaps he turned the ring around 180 degrees ?

But there are too many coincidences and unanswered questions in the case.

I think the thing to remember is that this was a frenzied attack carried out by more than one person. Anything could have happened.

There needs to be more said about what happened in the bar that night.
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Originally Posted by septimus

There needs to be more said about what happened in the bar that night.

INdeed - the deafening silence of the other farang tourist in the bar that night is very weird.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by blue

Whatever the Thai police do next a conspiracy theory will emerge to discredit it.

Well...
They don't have the most sterling of reputations.

So, you'll forgive anyone and everyone that questions their actions and motives.

All I'm saying is, how is there going to be an outcome some people will satisfied with now ?
In a way its a classic - the boy who cried wolf senario -
EG
IF DNA evidence is produced in court , or samples given to British police , some will say its a set up.
If DNA was found by British Police on the girls body - it was planted ,
If the Immigrants again plead guilty in court -they were coerced -

and so on .

I agree the whole thing stinks - a farce from the police , seeming silence from anyone on the island at that time .Farang clowns .

Still just because the police messed up to start with doesnt mean the immigrants are innocent .

https://th-th.facebook.com/CSILA90210

Originally Posted by blue

Still just because the police messed up to start with doesnt mean the immigrants are innocent .

the complete lack of evidence pointing to them means they are probably innocent especially when coupled with the barrage of evidence pointing towards prayuths friends and contributors.

Originally Posted by chassamui

FCO

You seem to think the FCO give a flying hoot about this. 2 dead? They don't care. Their job is about finding ways to help big british businesses, usually by telling who needs to bribe who.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Is there any record of the UK inquests into the two deaths, or have they just been opened and then adjourned? I am sure the couples Brit friends and maybe other westerners would be happy to give evidence anywhere except Thailand.
Perhaps the FCO has a sked them to make statements privately and await the results of the Thai facade that passes for a fair trial?

I think the inquest has been set for January 2015

lm probably wrong but I think there is only an inquest if they don't agree witt the cause of death on the documents that acompany the body

Originally Posted by Bower

I think the inquest has been set for January 2015

Thanks for that. The way the Thais are rushing to conclusions it should be very interesting.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

You seem to think the FCO give a flying hoot about this. 2 dead? They don't care. Their job is about finding ways to help big british businesses, usually by telling who needs to bribe who.

As far as the FCO is concerned they will also be acutely aware of the number of British citizens living in Thailand and they have a duty of care not to put them at risk.
Once they have the inquest and investigation results to support the case for answers about the two dead Brits they can deal with whatever remains of the Thai diplomatic service to reach a satisfactory conclusion. The media and public in UK will expect nothing less.

If not the FCO who else would you expect to lead on this?

Originally Posted by blue

lm probably wrong

Originally Posted by blue

lm probably wrong but I think there is only an inquest if they don't agree witt the cause of death on the documents that acompany the body

The coroner must hold an inquest where the death was:

• Violent or unnatural;
• Sudden and of unknown cause; or
• In prison or police custody.

I think this one qualifies under "Violent or unnatural"

Originally Posted by chassamui

If not the FCO who else would you expect to lead on this?

No one - governments care about money for big business and not about the people. Come on Chass - you must have realised this.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

This case hinges solely on whether their DNA matches the samples taken from the girl's body.
Everything else is extraneous.

Someone needs to look into the possible ways that there was a switch, then press that angle.

Also, DNA can be printed as a chart. Copies of their DNA need to be sent to England to see if they match up with the DNA that the British coroner undoubtedly took from her body when it arrived there.

If the rapist DNA is already obtained, say Nom Sod and Mr Ring, then switching that sample with those of Burmese would be easy for one person to do.

That's an assumption the rapists are also the murderer. I think we have two sets of crimes, a multiple rape and then a double murder and not necessarily the same persons.

That March in UK ought to stir things up a bit, we can only hope the families start doing a bit of reading and decide they need to be involved as their govt is all about nicey- nice mode of business accommodation.

These two lads where photos voluntarily giving DNA samples within days of the crime occuring. They were passed as not involved then. So, we can safely assume they had fuck all to do with it. The spotlight needs to shine on those that refused to take a DNA test.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

No one - governments care about money for big business and not about the people. Come on Chass - you must have realised this.

Of course I am aware of the duties and responsibilities of the foreign office. When Hague was last in Asia he announced against the run of play, an increase in Embassy staff for Thailand. The jobs turned out to be all part of a defence sales team for ASEAN.
It takes nothing away from the media spotlight this case has brought to the UK government and its procedures for dealing with innocent British tourists murdered abroad when there are suspicious circumstances. A petition handed over at 10 Downing street calling for an independent investigation. Who will be held accountable for that investigation being held or not and explaining why?
Do you think the inquest will be followed by anyone in government? Having made their reservations about the probity of the investigation, who will be in attendance? British Embassy (FCO) staff.
Who is resonsible for producing guidance for travel to Thailand - The FCO. It may not mean much to you, or be taken particularly seriously by government, until something goes wrong and the public are screaming for justice, just a few inconvenient months away from a general election.
Suddenly the FCOs main role is subverted and it's all about people again.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

These two lads where photos voluntarily giving DNA samples within days of the crime occuring. They were passed as not involved then. So, we can safely assume they had fuck all to do with it. The spotlight needs to shine on those that refused to take a DNA test.

Samples were collected, doubtful all 200 + were tested as it was taking days per test. IMO police were waiting for more clues to surface ( or bribes..)

This also explains how their DNA tests came back so quickly- (just playing DA here.)