Thread: Syria: Not as important as Libya.

So another "stop being naughty" treatise. Assad will be shitting himself.


(Or do I mean pissing?).

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

then I would imagine the FSA will cease fire

Dream on.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

then I would imagine the FSA will cease fire

Dream on.

I know it doesn't suit your "Assad is a nice chap really" sensibilities, but the FSA have sprung up directly in response to his butchering of his own people.

It stands to reason that they would lay down arms if he were to stop doing it - and could be trusted.

But you are right, dream on. He's killing innocent people on a daily basis and he won't stop until he is ousted.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I know it doesn't suit your "Assad is a nice chap really" sensibilities, but the FSA have sprung up directly in response to his butchering of his own people.

It stands to reason that they would lay down arms if he were to stop doing it - and could be trusted.

I don't believe that I have ever said that Assad is a nice chap, if my memory is correct I have likened him to all other politicians, lying thieving scum.

Do you have any notion of the people/funders behind the FSA?

The FSA, and their "supporters" will not stop until they achieve their aim of regime change. What makes you so sure the FSA could be trusted?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I know it doesn't suit your "Assad is a nice chap really" sensibilities, but the FSA have sprung up directly in response to his butchering of his own people.

It stands to reason that they would lay down arms if he were to stop doing it - and could be trusted.

I don't believe that I have ever said that Assad is a nice chap, if my memory is correct I have likened him to all other politicians, lying thieving scum.

Do you have any notion of the people/funders behind the FSA?

The FSA, and their "supporters" will not stop until they achieve their aim of regime change. What makes you so sure the FSA could be trusted?

So the civilians that are being killed are simply "FSA Supporters" and not people demanding political freedom - and that they stop being attacked by their own government's forces?

As for their support, if Assad had carried out ANY of the reforms he promised, it would never have come to this. There are many Sunni muslims around the Gulf that want Assad to stop killing their own, by nature of the structure of the government and army, he's made it a sectarian conflict.

But of course you knew that already, so it's a dumb fucking question really.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So the civilians that are being killed are simply "FSA Supporters" and not people demanding political freedom

I suspect that all sorts are being killed. Some unarmed civilians, some FSA terrorists, some government forces and possibly some foreign "advisers" both western, Arabs and Persians.

Who is killing who is probably as complex as well. The introduction of external support will only increase the numbers.

The encouragement to "protest" is being fed by external forces which recent events have shown is not to the benefit of the locals. Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Sudan ..... all have shown that the crusader coalition do not have the skills or stamina to carry out their regime change for the benefit of the "people".

As for "political freedom" can you name one country, in the world, where the freedom to create a political party has led to substantial improvements to "peoples" benefits? The only grouping to improve the "peoples" benefits have been trades unions. These have been decimated by capitalists and governments by ensuring the export of jobs to offshore companies and compliant countries.

Interesting reports today that there is fighting as close as 4Km from Damascus.

Perhaps they are making better progress than is being reported.

Thank god we had the Libyan scenario as a precedent to show how dishonest and cunning the French, British, and the American were in that conflict

The Syria Page » Archives » Analyzing the largest Syria crisis Facebook polls

For those interested in Polls and believe FB polls here are answers from some recent ones.

Although the numbers for each side are fairly close it is interesting that of the 18 questions only one has a majority for the terrorists.

^ Generated by a mass of international PR companies hired by Assad to plant pro-regime stories.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

^ Generated by a mass of international PR companies hired by Assad to plant pro-regime stories.

As I said it is a report on numerous "polls" some of which were conducted via FB. The accuracy is debatable, the people who voted were from many countries and if you look at the analysis some of the questions were biased.

The only factor, which I pointed out, was the large number of questions, 90+%, which backed what the Syrian government is trying to achieve. This fact, goes against the crusader coalition propaganda.

Some of the polls were conducted by the Qatar Foundation and Al Jazeera, both are known for their anti Syrian Government stance.

Honestly you'd fall for anything. Do you think the opposition have access to Facebook to answer pretty Government-staged polls?

In fact, as the article itself states:

it is impossible to tease out Syrian responses from Arab ones. Moreover, it should also be cautioned that Syrians with FB accounts are not a truly representative sample as the sampling frame excludes Syrians without FB accounts as well as Syrians with no internet access. Results, therefore should be read with these limitations in mind.

My bet is Homs Internet access is pretty fucking shit at the moment.

If you are right about the average Syrian not having access to the polling it makes even more a mockery of the crusader coalition claims.

If external people, who do have access, are the voters even more of them support the Syrian government than not - according to the polls.

Originally Posted by OhOh

If you are right about the average Syrian not having access to the polling it makes even more a mockery of the crusader coalition claims.

If external people, who do have access, are the voters even more of them support the Syrian government than not - according to the polls.

I didn't say the "average Syrian", I said the Opposition.

Assad will have had Internet access cut along with electricity and so on, not so much so that they can't answer your fake polls, but so they can't get streaming video out of murderous attacks by tanks and snipers.

Your Facebook polls are meaningless garbage engineering by International PR companies hired by the Assad regime to distort the facts and paint a picture of a majority of "happy citizens" ravaged by "armed gangs".

And I think there's enough evidence out there, and posted in this thread, that even you can't be so dumb as to believe that crock of shit by now.

So stop with your crusader coalition nonsense, it's not even relevant to your pointless poll post.

Reuters: Syrian activists report at least 217 dead as Assad's troops shell Homs.

Activists say Syrian forces killed 200 during attack

^Now that's the Assad we know and love. Papa Hafez's ghost out roaming around, directing the fire?

If the Arab League wants to get involved with an international crisis it should at least stand by their own reports.

A recent article by a foreign journalist who has visited Syria many times.

What Is Really Going On In Syria: Insider Update [Voltaire Network]

Activists say Syrian forces killed 200 during attack

"Two main opposition groups, the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and the Local Coordination Committees, ........

The reports could not be independently confirmed."


Unattributed, unverified reports similar to the crusader coalitions lying/misreporting/mispeaking during their last mission taken as fact by the sheeple.

Sorry harry but they have previous form, they called wolf before and were ridiculed for it. It's a shame that the civilians in Syria are being used as cannon fodder once again.

Originally Posted by OhOh

The crusader coalition are the ones who are calling for regime change,

The US just entered into a $60 billion, 10-year arms contract with the Wahabbist regime in Saudi. You might want to find a better descriptor than "crusader."

Originally Posted by OhOh

If the Arab League wants to get involved with an international crisis it should at least stand by their own reports.

A recent article by a foreign journalist who has visited Syria many times.

What Is Really Going On In Syria: Insider Update [Voltaire Network]

Honestly. A report by a RUSSIAN?

You can't do any better than that?

AFP are reporting that Russia will do not accept the resolution. A dangerous game, because the Syrian opposition will note their behaviour and, should a democratic parliament eventually take power, will hoy the fuckers out, naval base and all.

I'm sure the West will rush in to resupply them with arms and turn the base into a Mediterranean holiday resort.

So both Russia and China have vetoed the resolution. Both looking after their own interests, and fuck the Syrian people.

Shame on these both of these scum. Perhaps they are frightened of encouraging their own pro-democracy groups.