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    Iran tension flights to Eurpoe in sights

    Glancing at summer flights I noticed UK prices up Olympic hike no doubt

    My prefernces reminded me that all have Gulf layover

    Then flicking to to the prees not Ira's
    Press TV I see Leon Panetta admit Gulf War 3 is beig taken seriously.

    While Iran may actually benefi from oil spike in short run cannot forsee how it can while maybe inflicting huge damage even nuking Israel but surely not Europe orUSA.

    Iranian Revolutionary Guards parade in Tehran. The Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the West’s threats of war would not ‘divert Iran from its nuclear course’
    US expects Israel to attack Iran

    "Donald Macintyre: Evidence is mounting that Washington believes an Israeli attack on Iran is now only a matter of time.

    Robert Fisk: An attack on Tehran would be madness. So don't rule it out
    Leading article: Hope for the best, prepare for the worst"
    Russia went from being 2nd strongest army in the world to being the 2nd strongest in Ukraine

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    Robert Fisk's sober analysis

    If Israel really attacks Iran this year, it – and the Americans – will be more dotty than their enemies think. True, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a crackpot, but then so is Avigdor Lieberman, who is apparently the Israeli Foreign Minister. Maybe the two want to do each other a favour. But why on earth would the Israelis want to bomb Iran and thus bring down on their heads the fury of both the Lebanese Hezbollah and Hamas at the very same moment? Along with Syria, no doubt. Not to mention sucking the West – Europe and the US – into the same shooting match.

    Maybe it's because I've been in the Middle East for 36 years, but I sniff some old herrings in the air. Leon Panetta, the US Defence Secretary no less, warns us that Israel may strike. So does CNN – an older herring it would be difficult to find – and even old David Ignatius, who hasn't been a Middle East correspondent for a decade or two, is telling us the same, taken in, as usual, by his Israeli "sources".

    I expected this sort of bumph when I perused last week's The New York Times Magazine – not an advertisement, this, for I would not want The Independent readers to burn their energy on such tosh – and read a warning from an Israeli "analyst" (I am still trying to discover what an "analyst" is), Ronen Bergman of Israel's Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper.

    And here is his "kicker" (as we call it in the trade), which is as near as you can get to playing the propaganda ragtime. "After speaking with many [sic] senior Israeli leaders and chiefs [sic yet again] of the military and intelligence, I have come to believe that Israel will indeed strike Iran in 2012. Perhaps in the small and ever diminishing window that is left, the US will choose to intervene after all, but from the Israelis' perspective, there is not much hope for that. Instead, there is that peculiar Israeli mixture of fear... and tenacity, the fierce conviction, right or wrong, that only the Israelis can ultimately defend themselves."

    Now, first of all, any journalist who predicts an Israeli strike on Iran is putting his head on the chopping block. But surely any journalist worth his salt – and there are plenty of good journos in Israel – would ask himself a question: Who am I working for? My newspaper? Or my government?

    Panetta, pictured below, who lied to US forces in Iraq by claiming to them they were there because of 9/11, should know better than to play this game. CNN ditto. I shall forget Ignatius. But what is all this? Nine years after invading Iraq – an enormously successful adventure, we are still told – because Saddam Hussein had "weapons of mass destruction", we plan to clap our hands as Israel bombs Iran because of more unprovable "weapons of mass destruction". Now I don't doubt that within seconds of hearing the news, Barack Obama's grotesque speech-writers will be grovelling to find the right words to support such an Israeli attack. If Obama can abandon Palestinian freedom and statehood for his own re-election, he can certainly support Israeli aggression in the hope that this will get him back in the White House.

    If Iranian missiles start smashing into US warships in the Gulf, however – not to mention US bases in Afghanistan – then the speechwriters may have much more work to do. So just don't let the Brits or the Frenchies get involved.

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    Robert Fisk knows more about the Middle East in his writing finger than the combined wisdom of the current motley crew of greenhorned 'reporters' and rental experts being brought up by the propaganda machine currently. He's no fan of the Ayatollah's either.

    For sheer blatancy and amateurishness of propaganda, this one's a gem-



    New fears over Iran's missile capability
    oo'h, new fears

    IRAN is developing a missile capable of hitting the east coast of the US
    gosh, now thats scary

    .. according to an Israeli government minister
    .

    ... contrary to assertions that the chief threat was to Iran's near-neighbour, Israel's Minister for Strategic Affairs, Moshe Yaalon, said the missile project was ''aimed at America, not us''.
    yep, they're quaking in their boots in Skokie. We heard you the first time, already

    Mr Yaalon said that only the threat of a punishing military strike would compel Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions. ''The West has the ability to strike but as long as Iran isn't convinced that there's a determination to follow through with it, they'll continue with their manipulations,'' he said.
    right, we get it- just another Israeli shill job to try and get Obama to do their dirty work

    ''Analysts believe only US bunker-busting bombs could penetrate deep enough underground to take out Iran's nuclear facilities, explaining Israel's urgency in seeking to co-opt US support for a strike.
    which rental 'analysts might' these be? They sure got chutzpah, them hebes. Enough already- we get it.

    Read more: New fears over Iran's missile capability


    That excretion of blatant propaganda masquerading as journalism is in todays Sydney Morning Herald. Basically, they think 'we' are stupid. And they are probably right.

    Oh, and "Israel's Minister for Strategic Affairs, Moshe Yaalon" is quite a piece of work himself. Google him if u want.
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    Let\'s see.

    US drone crashes in Iran. US caught red-handed spying on Iran.

    A few years ago a US navy warship blows Iran Air 655 commercial airliner out of the sky, killing/murdering 290 people from six countries . . . 60 children

    The list goes on and it is clearly Iran that we have to worry about.
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