Thread: Quagmire....

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

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Forget the son, not relevent.
Training camps, where did you get that information. I thought both the US and UK government have now admitted that there was no connection between Iraq and 9/11.

There might not have been a direct link to 9/11 from Saddam but the news media (not specifically FOX) has reported for the past five years evidence of Al Queda training camps within Iraq.

And the WMD's?

Whatever the arguements from the left, or, the right, the undeniable fact is that up to now, the invasion of Iraq has been an unmitigated disaster for both the USA and the UK.
If they knew at the beginning, what they know now, they would never have invaded.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Other than there were Al Queda training camps within the borders of Iraq before 9/11 and that Saddam was harboring one of Bin Laden's sons

i'm going to assume that you're not being deliberately disingenous with the first part of your post. IF there were AQ camps in iraq, every study that has researched this has found that it wasn't with saddam's approval. to imply that AQ had approval from saddam is simply wrong.

and as far as the second part, i've never heard anything about saddam hussein harboring osama's son. asking boonie to post a link is pointless, but has anyone else heard or read anything about this? needless to say, this is very hard to believe.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Got shipped over to Syria...

hahahaha !!! how convenient. And you didn't catch them on the SAT ?

kind of like the pre-war fever.
i'm not sure this board was even operating in late 2002 early 2003, but remember how hans blix was vilified by the likes of boon mee? now all they can do is post frowning emoticons.

and by the way boonie (and anyone else, for that matter)....how about a link that backs up the claim that saddam harbored osama's son.

Originally Posted by raycarey

i'm not sure this board was even operating in late 2002 early 2003, but remember how hans blix was vilified by the likes of boon mee?

I was already fighting with Boon Mee back on TV in 2002

Has it learned anything since?

Originally Posted by stroller

It's spelled "disingenuous", btw, just looked it up, the pedantic German i am...

the positively prickly pedant that i am, i just searched my username for

disingenuous---4 hits.

disingenous--- 1 hit....the typo in the post you cited.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by raycarey

i'm not sure this board was even operating in late 2002 early 2003, but remember how hans blix was vilified by the likes of boon mee?

I was already fighting with Boon Mee back on TV in 2002

Year early - it were '03 if memory serves and the score card still reads yours truly ain't lost a significant battle since!

Originally Posted by stroller

"Laguna Sunrise" - that was the ticket, man, far out!

I'd explain what Laguna Beach Sunshine was to you Headmaster but knowing your propensity & desire for 'altered states of conciousness' - maybe a bad move...

"While the world’s attention has been focused on Baghdad’s slide into sectarian warfare, something remarkable has been happening in Ramadi, a city of 400,000 inhabitants that al-Qaeda and its Iraqi allies have controlled since mid-2004 and would like to make the capital of their cherished Islamic caliphate. A power struggle has erupted: al-Qaeda’s reign of terror is being challenged. Sheikh Sittar and many of his fellow tribal leaders have cast their lot with the once-reviled US military. They are persuading hundreds of their followers to sign up for the previously defunct Iraqi police. American troops are moving into a city that was, until recently, a virtual no-go area. A battle is raging for the allegiance of Ramadi’s battered and terrified citizens and the outcome could have far-reaching consequences. Ramadi has been the insurgency’s stronghold for the past two years. It is the conduit for weapons and foreign fighters arriving from Syria and Saudi Arabia. To reclaim it would deal a severe blow to the insurgency throughout the Sunni triangle and counter mounting criticism of the war back in America."

Fighting back: the city determined not to become al-Qaeda's capital - World - Times Online

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

would like to make the capital of their cherished Islamic caliphate

I don't know, did Osama send a memo to the DoD to declare it their new capital ?

Originally Posted by Milkman

I have more confidence in what the generals say.

Is that so ? Didn't you say you believe we need like 200,000 more troops in Iraq ?

I guess you'll be changing your mind since General Abizaid sez he doesn't need anymore troops in Iraq.

By the way ... if you don't mind, could you refresh my memory on your military background ? I ask because I forgot my buddy Keeshou served in the Air Force.

Why not just advocate that all Americans should display more of a volunteer spirit and not dictate what avenue they take ? What kind of volunteer work are you doing in Thailand ray ? Working for TEFLer peanuts doesn't count.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Why not just advocate that all Americans should display more of a volunteer spirit and not dictate what avenue they take ?

Good one, I can agree with this.
When is your boat leaving to Iraq, you'll have plenty of time to devote soon, no?

Originally Posted by stroller

When is your boat leaving to Iraq, you'll have plenty of time to devote soon, no?

Now this was worded in an acceptable manner as far as I'm concerned. Nice to see you're getting better at the written portion of the English language. keep at it and soon you'll be much better at total comprehension.

Now, I've got well over a 1000 day of shipboard time in the Persian Gulf onboard naval vessels ... I've done way more than my share supporting the great nation of America.

I have absolutely no reason to support (cheer) for the brave mean and women over the right now fighting for democracy. Fighting to give the Iraqi people a chance at the same type of freedom enjoyed by many people all over the world.

You need to just get over your guilt for shirking your duties. I think you've been forgiven by now.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

I think you've been forgiven by now.

By whom?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Now this was worded in an acceptable manner as far as I'm concerned. Nice to see you're getting better at the written portion of the English language. keep at it and soon you'll be much better at total comprehension.

Let's hope you'll follow my example re "acceptable' and "comprehension".