Thread: HIV Infection risks

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Just look for a moment at all of the viruses that are transmittable by mosquito's.. West Nile, Hepatitis, Meningitis, Encephalitis (numerous strains), Dengue fever, Typhoid, Malaria, Yellow fever, filariasis (more often referred to as elephantiasis) even heart worm in animals which is a pretty large parasite compared to a virus.. This list is really endless...

endless? i count ten.

Well some broad was chewing her kids food for a baby and she had HIV and the prechewed food give the kid HIV.
Hell it was on the news a week or so ago.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Hell it was on the news a week or so ago.

Fox??

Prevailing medical wisdom from doctor's that are experts in the field over and above even driventowin suggests that for HIV to be transmitted...

1. HIV must be present...

Infection can only happen if one of the persons involved is infected with HIV. Some people assume that certain behaviors (such as anal sex) cause AIDS, even if HIV is not present. This is not true.

2. ...in sufficient quantity...

The concentration of HIV determines whether infection may happen. In blood, for example, the virus is very concentrated. A small amount of blood is enough to infect someone. A much larger amount of other body fluids is needed for HIV transmission.

3. ...and it must get into the bloodstream.

It is not enough to come into contact with an infected fluid to become infected. Healthy, unbroken skin does not allow HIV to get into the body; it is an excellent barrier to HIV infection. HIV can enter only through an open cut or sore, or through contact with the mucous membranes in the anus and rectum, the genitals, the mouth, and the eyes.

Ways in Which HIV Is NOT Transmitted

Insect bites

HIV is not transmitted by mosquitoes, flies, ticks, fleas, bees or wasps. If a bloodsucking insect bites someone with HIV, the virus dies almost instantly in the insect's stomach (as it digests the blood). HIV can only live in human cells.

Mosquitoes cannot transmit HIV for two reasons:

* The mosquito draws blood and injects saliva. The blood from one person is not injected into the mosquito's next victim.
* HIV dies in the mosquito's body. People sometimes are confused because malaria actually reproduces inside the mosquito's digestive tract, using the insect as part of its life cycle. HIV does not.

These facts are confirmed by looking at infection patterns. In areas where mosquitoes are common and where HIV is prevalent, the distribution of AIDS cases in the population is not different from other areas. If mosquitoes transmitted HIV, they would be seeing a disproportionate number of children and elderly infected in those areas.

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this little snippet suggests blackgang is hallucinating.

Casual contact/sharing dishes or food

HIV is not transmitted through casual, daily contact. Since HIV is not transmitted by saliva, it is impossible to get it through sharing a glass, a fork, a sandwich, or fruit.

Three studies of household contacts, in the U.S., Europe, and Africa, have shown that AIDS is not casually transmitted by normal activities, even when people are in close living arrangements. All the studies examined households where someone had AIDS to see if any of the other members in that household had become infected (sexual contact was excluded). Many of these households included a small child as the one who has AIDS. These children continued to play with siblings in the manner that children play: wrestling, fighting, spitting, sharing food and clothes, and many other activities. No other member of any of the households shows any sign of being infected. This study shows that AIDS is a difficult disease to get, and that even the intimate exposure common among small children living together is not sufficient to transmit the virus.

Back to my original critique of the theory.

Why don't children get HIV as frequently as adults?

They certainly get bitten by mosquitoes as much -- probably more.

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that is mentioned at the bottom of the first snippet i posted.

what correlation if any is there between of hiv infection and naked sleepers? screen vs no screens? repellant users?

good link from only a few months ago.

if malaria can be transmitted by mosquito, why not HIV?

Scienceline » If malaria can be transmitted through a mosquito’s bite, why not HIV?

seems the scientific community ruled it out in about 1988.

Originally Posted by Driventowin

WHY mosquito's don't transmit this disease if in fact they don't??

or condors.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Prevailing medical wisdom from doctor's that are experts in the field over and above even driventowin suggests that for HIV to be transmitted...

1. HIV must be present...

Infection can only happen if one of the persons involved is infected with HIV. Some people assume that certain behaviors (such as anal sex) cause AIDS, even if HIV is not present. This is not true.

2. ...in sufficient quantity...

The concentration of HIV determines whether infection may happen. In blood, for example, the virus is very concentrated. A small amount of blood is enough to infect someone. A much larger amount of other body fluids is needed for HIV transmission.

3. ...and it must get into the bloodstream.

It is not enough to come into contact with an infected fluid to become infected. Healthy, unbroken skin does not allow HIV to get into the body; it is an excellent barrier to HIV infection. HIV can enter only through an open cut or sore, or through contact with the mucous membranes in the anus and rectum, the genitals, the mouth, and the eyes.

Ways in Which HIV Is NOT Transmitted

Insect bites

HIV is not transmitted by mosquitoes, flies, ticks, fleas, bees or wasps. If a bloodsucking insect bites someone with HIV, the virus dies almost instantly in the insect's stomach (as it digests the blood). HIV can only live in human cells.

Mosquitoes cannot transmit HIV for two reasons:

* The mosquito draws blood and injects saliva. The blood from one person is not injected into the mosquito's next victim.
* HIV dies in the mosquito's body. People sometimes are confused because malaria actually reproduces inside the mosquito's digestive tract, using the insect as part of its life cycle. HIV does not.

These facts are confirmed by looking at infection patterns. In areas where mosquitoes are common and where HIV is prevalent, the distribution of AIDS cases in the population is not different from other areas. If mosquitoes transmitted HIV, they would be seeing a disproportionate number of children and elderly infected in those areas.

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I addressed this in my initial post, all of the prevaling facts were in the initial stages of the understanding of this disease and were studies conducted by Government health organizations and therefore lack modern day credibilty..

It is very naive (and that's what they are counting on with the public) for you to think they know all about Fcuk. They're still learning new things about every disease every day.

To suggest that they know anything for certain about this one is blind ignorance! If they did they would have it all sorted and this discussion woudln't even be happening because it would be a non issue..

Originally Posted by Driventowin

it would be a non issue..

it is.
has been since the late 1980's.

Originally Posted by obsidian

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Just look for a moment at all of the viruses that are transmittable by mosquito's.. West Nile, Hepatitis, Meningitis, Encephalitis (numerous strains), Dengue fever, Typhoid, Malaria, Yellow fever, filariasis (more often referred to as elephantiasis) even heart worm in animals which is a pretty large parasite compared to a virus.. This list is really endless...

endless? i count ten.

That we've discovered...Give them time they're not done destroying the rain forests quite yet..

driventowin.

i have been trying and failing to find even a strain of scientific support for your mozzie theory.

the internet is littered with articles about why mozzies can transmit certain diseases but not HIV.

It is also a well known fact that you can't get Aids from unprotected fadginal sex with an American hooker.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Back to my original critique of the theory.

Why don't children get HIV as frequently as adults?

They certainly get bitten by mosquitoes as much -- probably more.

First off you have take into account the additional exposure to the disease that adults have due to high risk behaviour over children.

Secondly you also have take into account lifetime exposure, doesn't it make logical sense that an adult who has lived 20 or 30 years longer than a child is going to have far greater exposure to mosquito bites and therefore a higher chance of exposure??

Originally Posted by Driventowin

have take into account the additional exposure to the disease that adults have due to high risk behaviour over children.

que??

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by Driventowin

have take into account the additional exposure to the disease that adults have due to high risk behaviour over children.

que??

Whats not to understand??

To account for less children being exposed you have take into account that adults have behaviours that increase their exposure to the disease...But again that doesn't suggest that mosquito's are the exclusive source of exposure..

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oh sorry.
i forgot there might be other factors.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

^
oh sorry.
i forgot there might be other factors.

Actually I have always been saying there are other factors..Not just mossies..Just like once a person is exposed to other viruses by mossie contact they can then be transmitted via person to person..

I will agree with you on one thing.

the whole AIDS discussion has been clouded by misrepresentation and abject reporting of facts from day one.
they still appear to be guessing by and large.

i wonder if there isn't an immunity amongst a very large percentage of the populace.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Thats an easy one, great big knobs shoved up the butts of unwilling males and females.

How do you know if they're unwilling...