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Zelenskyj: Russia prepares to rearm with mobilization of 300,000 troops in June








When reporters asked Zelenskyy how many soldiers would be mobilized for the Ukrainian army this year, the president replied that "we don't need half a million." (Photo: © Vadim Ghirda, Associated Press)

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Corlynne Angeland




Russia could be in the process of rearmament this summer. This is the opinion of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

"I can say that on June 1, Russia is preparing to mobilize 300,000 additional troops," Zelenskyy said today at a news conference with Finland's president in Kyiv.

The announcement comes on the same day that the Ukrainian president has signed a new law that allows people as young as 25 to be drafted into the army.

And this is probably no coincidence, says Matilde Kimer, DR's Russia and Ukraine correspondent.

He tries to say to his countrymen and women: "Our enemies are mobilizing and getting more soldiers. You must understand that it is a necessity that we do the same."

[Neverna]

The Russians are saying that they have recruited 100,000 volunteers this year.

https://www.rt.com/russia/595329-rec...kraine-crocus/

Russian army has recruited 100,000 so far this year – MOD

3 April, 2024

The Russian Defense Ministry has registered an influx of volunteers willing to sign up as contract soldiers this year, with many willing to join the fight against Ukraine after Russian officials suggested Kiev may have been behind the Crocus City Hall terrorist attack.

In a statement on Wednesday, the ministry said that more than 100,000 people had signed contracts since the start of 2024, with numbers increasing nationwide.

Officials estimate that up to 1,700 volunteers register at recruitment centers each day, and that in the past 10 days some 16,000 Russian citizens have signed contracts.

In late December, Putin said that a total of 617,000 service members were present in the zone of the military operation against Ukraine. He noted at the time that out of this number, 244,000 had been mobilized in the autumn of 2022. At the time, Moscow had called up 300,000 people.

The Russian president also said that 41,000 had been dismissed for various reasons since then. Putin added that Moscow does not plan to announce a second wave of mobilization, as nearly 500,000 troops have current contracts with the Defense Ministry.

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Yep and gas prices at the pump go up worldwide. Hit's me in the pocketbook so fuck OPEC and the camels they rode in on!

actually since ol uncle sam got a fraking OPEC are having real trouble influencing prices through suply side controls

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The Russians are saying that they have recruited 100,000 volunteers this year.

They are going to need them.

As Russian regiments occupied the ruins of Avdiivka, a former Ukrainian stronghold in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk Oblast, and then continued attacking toward the west, one key Russian unit waited.

The 6th Tank Regiment was the 90th Tank Division’s operational reserve—its “breakthrough” unit. If the Russian troops probing Ukrainian defenses west of Avdiivka detected a weakness, it was the 6th Regiment’s mission to exploit that weakness—and break into the Ukrainian rear area to wreak havoc.

So why, on Saturday, did the 90th Division send the 6th Tank in a direct assault on intact defensive positions manned by the 25th Brigade, part of Ukraine’s elite air-assault forces, just west of the village of Tonen’ke?

The 6th Tank’s daylight assault was one of the biggest, if not the biggest, armored assaults of Russia’s 25-month wider war on Ukraine. The regiment “slightly advanced northwest of the village,” according to the Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies.

But not for long. The assault ended in disaster for the Russians when the 6th Tank’s 48 vehicles—36 T-90 tanks and 12 BMP fighting vehicles crewed by hundreds of soldiers—rolled into a minefield. Then Ukrainian paratroopers fired anti-tank missiles, something they’re famously good at, and also launched explosives-laden first-person-view drones.

The Ukrainians “repelled this first massive assault,” CDS reported. The 6th Tank retreated, leaving behind 20 wrecked vehicles and potentially scores of dead bodies.
“Two significant observations can be made,” Ukrainian analysis group Frontelligence Insight noted.

“Firstly, Russian forces in the area have not lost their capacity or sufficient resources to conduct operations above the battalion level. This is concerning, as, despite substantial losses equivalent to the destruction of an entire division-sized force or an undermanned corps in Avdiivka, the ability to assemble a reinforced tank battalion poses a threat to Ukrainian defenses.”

Worse, the Ukrainians are struggling fully to man and supply their front-line positions as they await long-delayed aid from the United States as well as the passage of a new mobilization law in Kyiv—a law that would authorize the Ukrainian armed forces to draft tens of thousands of fresh troops.

Frontelligence Insight’s second observation is more hopeful for Ukraine. “Reportedly, the 6th Regiment was assigned the task of exploiting gaps in defenses and advancing further into Ukrainian territory,” the group explained.

“That’s good news for Ukraine since the use of a exploiting force to create a breakthrough suggests that Russian forces are encountering significant challenges and taking quite desperate measures.”

In other words, the 90th Division may have realized it wasn’t making the progress it planned to make—and got impatient and thus sloppy. It deployed its breakthrough regiment before breaking through Ukrainian lines.

A force designed to run amuck in the Ukrainians’ undefended rear area instead ran headlong into mines, drones and the Ukrainian air-assault forces’ notoriously bloodthirsty anti-tank missileers.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=e361f2d13083

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“Firstly, Russian forces in the area have not lost their capacity or sufficient resources to conduct operations above the battalion level. This is concerning, as, despite substantial losses equivalent to the destruction of an entire division-sized force or an undermanned corps in Avdiivka, the ability to assemble a reinforced tank battalion poses a threat to Ukrainian defenses.”

Russian Army will advance slowly forward and Ukraine do not have the defences to resist them. The longer the war continues, the more ground Russia will take and there's very little to stop that from happening. More Western supplies will simply slow down the inevitable.

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Russian Army will advance slowly forward and Ukraine do not have the defences to resist them. The longer the war continues, the more ground Russia will take and there's very little to stop that from happening. More Western supplies will simply slow down the inevitable.

Clueless. The ruzzian army is being heavily attrited, they can not manufacture replacement artillery barrels to repair their shot out cannons. The vehicle losses alone in the past week are the highest ever in the two years of this war. Ukraine has 800,000 artillery shells and ammunition inbound thanks to Czech president Petr Pavel, just in time to fend off the ruzzian summer offensive. At the rate of the ruzzian advance, it will take them years just to take Donbas.

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A Swiss ex military professional Jacques Baud, regarding the various options, political, militarily and globally, available to Ukraine, Russia, NATO countries, available to all parties from early 2022 to the present time.

2 hours.

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Clueless. The ruzzian army is being heavily attrited,

You've been saying that for over a year now.

How's that retake of Bakhmut going?
How's the defence of Adviika going?
How about that super easy retake of Tokmak by Christmas 2023?

You still have no idea of the Ukraine attrition rate.

Careful with the clueless tag, snubby, you might be taken for one.

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Donbass. Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow

"The history of the Donbass conflict

It’s been almost seven years since a US-inspired coup divided Ukraine and war erupted in the country’s east. The Donetsk and Lugansk republics, next to Russia's border, are collectively known as Donbass, a coal-mining industrial centre. The two declared independence from Kiev in 2014, and civil war erupted.

There are mass graves scattered across Donbass, from which bodies of civilians are regularly exhumed. Yet, while the shelling and killings continued, Western media remained silent. According to UN estimates, over 13,000 people have been killed in the conflict.

The Donbass people call it a ‘genocide of the Russian-speaking population’. Kiev outlawed the Russian language from everyday life, endeavouring to limit its use, despite Russian being the native language in large areas of the country.

Donbass. Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow takes a look back at events that unfolded before the start of the crisis in 2014. Historians and journalists share their views on the conflict, players and motives, while ordinary citizens from the Donetsk and Lugansk regions describe the horrors of war."

Donbass. Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow — RTD

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Link not working here

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Nevermind

Most know about the Ukrainian Nazi regime's attempt at genocide in Donbass

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Try this:

Donbass. Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow — RTD

Most know about the Ukrainian Nazi regime's attempt at genocide in Donbass

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Biden not happy when oil and gas prices go up, especially in an election year.

That is a lie. Oil is not going up because of that.

Oh dear:

9 Apr, 2024 21:54

HomeWorld News

US reveals why it told Kiev not to attack Russian oil depots

"Washington is concerned about global fuel prices, Defense Secretary Austin has said

Ukraine should go after military objectives, as strikes on Russian refineries could raise global oil prices, US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin told a Senate panel on Tuesday.

Kiev has launched a series of drone raids on the Russian oil infrastructure in the past two months, targeting refineries and storage facilities in multiple regions.

“Those attacks could have a knock-on effect in terms of the global energy situation,” Austin told the Senate Armed Services committee, during a hearing on the annual military budget. “Ukraine is better served in going after tactical and operational targets that can directly influence the current fight.” .....

Continues here:

US reveals why it told Kiev not to attack Russian oil depots — RT World News

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US reveals why it told Kiev not to attack Russian oil depots

"Washington is concerned about global fuel prices, Defense Secretary Austin has said

Yeah, you and I have tried again and again, to explain even the most simple dynamics, to our fellow .....debateurs on this thread.

Hard work, innit

Well; most europeans get it.

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Hard work, innit

The exposure of his current fairy tale reduces his relevance every time.

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Ukraine introduces law so soldiers are not allowed to leave the army
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Birgitte Skovlund Asmussen




The Ukrainian parliament has approved a mobilisation law that does not allow soldiers to leave the army after long service.

Ritzau writes this with reference to the AFP news agency.

"The law on mobilization was passed in its entirety," MP Yaroslav Zheleznyak wrote on social media site Telegram.

283 delegates voted in favour of the contentious law in parliament, which has 450 members.

All Ukrainian men between the ages of 18 and 60 are banned from travel. However, several have a medical certificate forged to avoid joining the military, others say they have divorced and are alone with parental responsibility. You can read more about the case here.

[david44]

Draft-dodging plagues Ukraine as Kyiv faces acute soldier shortage – POLITICO

If young Ukranoans won't volunteer or at keast serve as connscripts to defend their homes and families who will?

seems no "International Brigades of idealistic young like Spanish Civil War"

Putin like all dictators has no such problem and can push enough from a nation with 4 times th epopulation.

seems odd not use women for support and fit young men once trained.

EU could retune al lthe draft dodgers few will have got further.

Drones and intelligence all very well but won;t retake Ardaavika or Bakhmut let alone Crimea

Only hope will be Biden re-elected and The Germans will brobe poor men from poor places to defend democracy

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Ever paused and thought it over, David ?

What and who would I fight and die for ?

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What and who would I fight and die for ?

Snubby would die for:

Another drink
A bigger basement
A passport
An edit function to erase all the shit he has spouted in this thread.

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If young Ukranoans won't volunteer or at keast serve as connscripts to defend their homes and families who will?

Some might think that their homes and families wasn't in any danger, but from the enemy within

seems no "International Brigades of idealistic young like Spanish Civil War"

Oh
They have "Idealistic Brigades" over there.

Putin like all dictators has no such problem and can push enough from a nation with 4 times th epopulation.

Perhaps they have something to fight for or Putin have a better ..story to tell

seems odd not use women for support and fit young men once trained.

Women the last straw ?

They probably run the civil side of society. The one the US pays for

There is one, you know

EU could retune al lthe draft dodgers few will have got further.

They could

Like Canada and Sweden didn't during the Vietnam War

Should they have ?

Only hope will be Biden re-elected and The Germans will brobe poor men from poor places to defend democracy

Absentee tonight ?

[david44]

Oi guess you'll wait til the Russians are heading up the Holbaek highway, the British army won't have enogh forxes to liberate Denmark again kucky American taxpater is your fallback from Greenland to Vanlose protected by Natom if Danes don't need it join the neutrals it'll fool the Swedes who blinked.

Anyway it may not come to that Isreal iran Pakistanor russia. china, n korea my cool the global warming with a nuclear winter

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Oi guess you'll wait til the Russians are heading up the Holbaek highway

Oh

Yeah I can imagine that scenario

And that imaginary invader.

Do the math

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Ever paused and thought it over, David ?

What and who would I fight and die for ?

Why the hell need David think about who you would fight for? Up to you to answer the question innit?

So, what would you take up arms and kill or be killed for?