Ukraine war mega thread

[helge]

confirmation bias.

Not familiar with the term.

Feel free to explain it to me

Lots of ways for intelligent people to gather information independently.

So why don't you ?

I would like to read it

Why are you on your knees in front of a dictator's penis?

I am familiar with this term

It's one you need to use as your reply too often

[sabang]

The forum Bellends have an anal and phallic obsession. Freud would have a field day with that lot.

[helge]

The forum Bellends have an anal and phallic obsession. Freud would have a field day with that lot.

In BSnuffski's case, the deal is that the NAFO brotherhood has told him to "shitpost".

Fact !


The Mods here has accepted that

[bsnub]

Not familiar with the term.

Feel free to explain it to me

Google is your friend.

So why don't you ?

I would like to read it

I do. All the time, but it does not fit your narrative. Hence, confirmation bias.

In BSnuffski's case, the deal is that the NAFO brotherhood has told him to "shitpost".

The shitposting today has all been useful idiots. Sabang got a ton of posts shit canned after his meltdown in the news thread.

[harrybarracuda]

Confirmation Bias is the tendency of idiots to only go to sources that affirm their idiotic premises and discard anything else.

You know, like "Putin is a nice bloke so I'll only post things off Russian propaganda sites that say he isn't really a murderous war criminal and his war crimes are everyone else's fault".

That sort of thing.

[Iceman123]

Well a bit of provocation can't be bad; might wake you up, but probably not

Speaking for myself, I do get...very provoked by those posters on TD, who slavic follow the line their governments and corporate massmedia has rolled out for them.

Russians- bad

Ukrainians-Nato-good


I don't know where you originate from and it could be, that you have been fortunate enough, never to have massmedia or government lie to you before.

Not so in my case and I learned my lesson

It never fails to amaze me how the TD numpties ably led by the 2 bellends soak up the western propaganda without question.

FFS in an age where it is easy to research information and come to informed opinions why does it elude these people?

The bellends made me laugh when they bang on about “ confirmation bias” - they are the best examples possible.

[sabang]

Or things like "Putin is dying of....
Cancer
Dementia
Parkinsons... "

Or-

"The Assad regime is gonna fall within three weeks".

Or-

"China is gonna collapse I tell ya".

Or-

"Russia is running out of ammo, I tell a again, and again".

Or-

" The Russia federation is gonna split up"

And so on, and on, and on. Confirmation bias, did you say?

[bsnub]

FFS in an age where it is easy to research information and come to informed opinions why does it elude these people?

This from a moron who self admittedly gets his "news" off the TV.

The bellends made me laugh when they bang on about “ confirmation bias” - they are the best examples possible.

You are one of TD's most blinkered bozo's. You are a disiple of sabang and his little bitch lapdog. Could there be anything more pathetic and laughable than that?

[sabang]

[Iceman123]

You are one of TD's most blinkered bozo's. You are a disiple of sabang and his little bitch lapdog. Could there be anything more pathetic and laughable than that?

Only a bellend that cannot spell “disciple”

[bsnub]

Only a bellend that cannot spell “disciple”

Sabang made sure you could spell it right, didn't he, you sad little bitch. Maybe try and have an original thought rather than clinging to your master's scrotum.

[panama hat]

Well a bit of provocation can't be bad; might wake you up, but probably not

A bit is, yes. Months-long bulshit is another thing entirely. There are no different facts, despite what we constantly heard from Trump's disciples - the same applies here with hWoe and sabang, let's not even mention Baclspit.

currently the US is sanctioning one third of the world's population

Go on . . . share with us how.

The forum Bellends have an anal and phallic obsession. Freud would have a field day with that lot.

Are you really that stupid?
I suggest you read your post again and hopefully have the chance to delete it before people like cyrille or another educated Brit reads it and explains the word 'irony' to you.

[Norton]

Maybe try and have an original thought rather than clinging to your master's scrotum.

[helge]

Originally Posted by helge
Well a bit of provocation can't be bad; might wake you up, but probably not

A bit is, yes. Months-long bulshit is another thing entirely. There are no different facts, despite what we constantly heard from Trump's disciples - the same applies here with hWoe and sabang, let's not even mention Baclspit.

Month long bullshit, yes

I think that everyone has made their positions clear many moons ago.

And we haven't moved an inch

It all comes down to who has the "guilt".

Apparently no room for nuances there

And then some like to dwell on warporn and misery.

It's TD, I guess

Entertainment

Originally Posted by sabang
currently the US is sanctioning one third of the world's population

Go on . . . share with us how.

I get his point there

Not that I'm opposed to the sanction weapon as such

Originally Posted by sabang
The forum Bellends have an anal and phallic obsession. Freud would have a field day with that lot.

Are you really that stupid?
I suggest you read your post again and hopefully have the chance to delete it before people like cyrille or another educated Brit reads it and explains the word 'irony' to you.

I take it that you do not read Snuffi's posts then?

They do flow over with 'cock sucking' et al

[bsnub]

I take it that you do not read Snuffi's posts then?

They do flow over with 'cock sucking' et al

Because it is a fitting description for useful idiots of your ilk. Nice to see that you failed once again to explain why you think that Russia is good and not evil.

I just find it laughable that pseudo-intellectuals like yourself attempt to take the intellectual high ground when you are in all actuality far from it.

[sabang]

Maybe try and have an original thought rather than clinging to your master's scrotum.

More genital obsession- we might need a combined army of Freud and Jung for you, little boy. You've got it all wrong, as usual. Icey is a self made man who, gasp, is able to actually think for himself- you really should try to develop the art of rational analysis and critical thinking- but no doubt you are having little girlie snortles over the fact the word "analysis" includes 'anal', sigh.

The awkward fact is:-

[helge]

Because it is a fitting description for useful idiots of your ilk

Carry on

Only shows your desperation

Nice to see that you failed once again to explain why you think that Russia is good and not evil.

You are a bit slow, aren't you ? Do you get confused when the world isn't black or white ?

I just find it laughable that pseudo-intellectuals like yourself attempt to take the intellectual high ground when you are in all actuality far from it.

Do you mean 'moral high ground' ?

Freud and Jung

pseudo-intellectuals

[bsnub]

You are a bit slow, aren't you ? Do you get confused when the world isn't black or white ?

Nope. I am not confused, I think you are. The question was simple, so why do you continue to dodge it?

Do you mean 'moral high ground' ?

Nope.

More genital obsession- we might need a combined army of Freud and Jung for you, little boy. You've got it all wrong, as usual. Icey is a self made man who, gasp, is able to actually think for himself- you really should try to develop the art of rational analysis and critical thinking- but no doubt you are having little girlie snortles over the fact the word "analysis" includes 'anal', sigh.

You really do know how to bleat on eh clown boy?

[helge]

Nope. I am not confused, I think you are. The question was simple, so why do you continue to dodge it?

Have I ever posted anything, that would lead anyone to believe that I like Putin ? No !

What you can't get your head around, is that I'm not singing in the "Ukraine and NATO are angels" choir.

the intellectual high ground

Not familiar with the term

I stand for common sense


Or is it because I do not call you a 'cocksucker' ?

[sabang]

Lets get little anal snubski worked up over his latest phallic wunderwaffen, those tanks (which it appears, will not even see service in the Donbas). Oh dear:-

Expansion of production, and a much greater focus on producing for domestic use, could allow the Russian Army to receive several hundred T-90Ms by the end of 2022, potentially bringing numbers close to 800 should heavy losses in combat be avoided. UZV has been producing primarily for export over the past three decades, and is by far the largest tank producer in the world with more output than all the world’s other tank factories combined excluding those in China and North Korea. The T-90M itself is one of two Russian tank classes in production alongside the much more modern T-14 Armata, which although over 100 have been produced has yet to enter service in the Russian Army. With the T-14 also produced at UZV, the possibility remains that production could be suspended or slowed down to prioritise more T-90M deliveries - with this likely depending on how cost effective both are considered to be and how ready the T-14 is for entry into service.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/new-t90m-batchhow-many-uzv-deliver

Outgunned, and outclassed. Just like you, when you try and debate.

[Norton]

Outgunned

If contracts are in place to make stuff. Appears none are.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...fooling-around

[Norton]

Russian President Vladimir Putin lost his cool during his government's first meeting of 2023, publicly telling off the trade and industry minister.


For several minutes he accused Denis Manturov of bureaucratic delays in ordering civilian and military planes.


"Too long, it is taking too long," said the Russian leader, who has never been one to hold back in criticising top officials in public.


"What are you fooling around for? When will the contracts be signed?"


The government's first meeting came on the same day that President Putin replaced his top commander in Ukraine after just three months in charge.


Gen Sergei Surovikin was appointed in October after a series of setbacks in Russia's invasion of Ukraine but he has failed to reverse the course of the war.


In an otherwise upbeat video call shown on Russian TV in which President Putin praised his ministers' handling of the economy, President Putin repeatedly interrupted Mr Manturov, as the minister detailed plans for planes, helicopters and boats.


"These 700 aircraft, including helicopters... you need to sort this out with the defence ministry... several enterprises still haven't received any orders," he complained.

Russia'''s Putin lays into minister Manturov for '''fooling around''' - BBC News

[sabang]

President Putin replaced his top commander in Ukraine after just three months in charge.

I wonder what that was about- back room politics? He certainly was doing a much better job than his predecessor. Anyway, he remains 'hands on' in charge as I understand it- but one step down the chain of command reporting to Czar Vlad.

[sabang]

Ukraine is even trying to scab off tiny Georgia now:-


Why Ukraine and Georgia Are Fighting Over Soviet-Built Air Defence Systems: Kiev Wants BuK Missiles For Free

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]The Central Asian Soviet successor state of Georgia has come under growing pressure from Ukraine to supply BuK surface to air missile systems and other equipment free of charge, with Ukrainian officials claiming that BuK systems were supplied in the late 2000s as aid and ought to be returned. Although both Georgia and Ukraine were formerly parts of the Soviet Union, the latter was on the frontier with NATO which led it to be prioritised for hosting some of the superpower’s most advanced equipment, inheriting quantities which far surpassed all other successor states with the exception of Russia. The BuK system and other mobile short and medium ranged air defence assets played a key role in allowing Georgia to hold its own against the Russian Military in 2008 for close to two weeks, with the Russian Air Force having struggled profusely to neutralise them due to a total neglect for air defence suppression capabilities after the USSR’s disintegration and retirement of the Soviet fleet of dedicated air suppression aircraft. Russia eventually succeeded in tackling Georgia’s air defences primarily through the successes of its ground offensives, which allowed it to neutralise such assets without relying on air support. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]The BuK system is currently by far the most capable air defence asset in the Georgian armed forces, with the country’s defence ministry slamming “the incorrect information spread by experts or individual media outlets” from Ukraine claiming that the system was gifted rather than purchased. “It seems that Ukraine handed over Buk air defence systems to Georgia for free, which is not true,” it said, adding that Georgia “had received the Buk systems in 2007 through a multi-million-dollar purchase. This was done under a secret agreement, which is why we cannot provide more specifics.” The ministry elaborated that although providing humanitarian assistance, Georgia “has repeatedly stated its clear position” on supplies of weapons and dual use goods to Ukraine. It further defended its decision not to deplete its own stocks of U.S.-supplied Javelin anti tank missiles to equip Ukraine despite pressure from Kiev and some of its Western supporters to do so. Although the Georgian state has been conservative in its support for Ukraine’s war effort, Georgian nationals have played a leading role in the conflict with the Georgian Legion being among the most prominent of foreign units and one of the very first formed to fight both Russian forces and militias from Ukraine’s Russian ethnic minority.[/COLOR]
Georgian National Legion Patch and Leader Mamuka Mamulashvili


[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Ukraine’s air defence network has become increasingly depleted in its ongoing conflict with Russia, with multiple Ukrainian sources as well as Western media outlets highlighting that this was increasingly limiting the country’s ability to respond to air and missile strikes. Although the country has received Soviet designed air defence systems from former Warsaw Pact states such as Poland and Slovakia, supplies of these have been limited while other NATO members have provided systems which are extremely short ranged and in many cases near obsolete such as the MIM-23 Hawk. Although the United States has pledged to provide a single unit of Patriot missiles, system’s questionable combat record, very small numbers, and lack of American supporting personnel mean its impact will likely be very limited. The first Patriots are only expected to become operational in Ukraine in early 2024. Pressing Georgia to provide BuK systems may well be a sign of desperation as Ukraine’s own much larger network built on BuK and complementary longer ranged S-300 systems approaches breaking point, with other potenti
al https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/why-ukraine-and-georgia-are-fighting-over-soviet-built-air-defence-systems-kiev-wants-missiles-for-freesuppliers of Soviet compatible air defences outside Europe being few and far between.[/COLOR]

[bsnub]

Outgunned, and outclassed. Just like you, when you try and debate.

You really are a laughable clown. You could not debate your way out of a wet paper sack. No one has suffered more humiliation on this thread than you, and it is not even close. You also are far in the lead when it comes to posting lies and falsehoods as well.

Your source...

https://militarywatchmagazine.com

Analysis / Bias

Military Watch Magazine focuses on reporting defense-related events and publishes articles that are generally in line with the Russian Government’s narrative.

In review, they are highly biased in favor of Russia; for example, in the article “Indian and African Students Face Violence in Ukraine: Extremist Militias Target Non-Europeans – Reports,” a quote reads, “A number of sources have reported that white supremacist militias which have played a key role in the Ukrainian war effort have targeted foreigners, particularly Indians living in the country, in particular preventing them from leaving and using them as human shields against Russian attacks.” The article mentions “The Azov Battalion,” which has been a part of Russian propaganda, amplified by the Russian state news outlet RT. In the article, Military Watch repeats Russia’s narrative that there is a Nazi influence in Ukraine.
The Azov Battalion is a real extremist group that became (and still is) a faction in Ukraine’s national guard, but to equate them with having a “key role in the Ukrainian war effort” is to overstate their size and influence vastly.
Many articles are republished on strangemilitarystories.com and usually contain emotionally loaded language, such as “Seven Years Since Russia’s Military Intervention to Thwart NATO in Syria: A Very Different War to Ukraine.” A quote from the article reads. “Russia’s military operation in Syria is widely considered one of the most successful in the country’s history with minimal losses and objectives secured quickly and efficiently.” The wording appears to be praising and criticizing at the same time.
Another quote reads, “The confidence provided by the operation may well have been responsible for the ‘victory disease,’ as it is sometimes referred to, which fueled the complacency.” Therefore, this “hampered Russian effectiveness when intervening in Ukraine seven years later – a campaign which has had very different results.”

Another aspect of Military Watch Magazine is they do not list author information for articles published on the website, which presents a lack of transparency and makes it difficult to verify the information. For example, although they provide a hyperlink to credible sources like Reuters and N.Y. Times, there is no author information. An example is “U.S. Sees Attacks on Russian Nord Stream Pipelines as ‘Tremendous Opportunity’: State Secretary Blinken” and “Despite Hawkish Positions on China and Korea, Shinzo Abe Was Critical of Ukraine’s Zelensky and NATO’s Russia Stance.”
While Military Watch Magazine attempts to provide some balance, most articles hold a right-leaning bias and promote pro-Russian propaganda that can be misleading or false.
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• A third-party fact-checker has not fact-checked them to date.

Overall, we rate Military Watch Magazine Right-Center Biased and questionable based on the promotion of pro-Russian propaganda and a complete lack of transparency regarding who is in charge of the website and where they originate. (M. Huitsing 10/05/2022)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/milit...magazine-bias/



What a clown.