Ukraine war mega thread

[bsnub]

It would be interesting if you watched and decided for yourself.

So a lowly foreign infantry volunteer wasn't told about where some weapons went. Big fucking deal. He is not privy to such information. That would be like a private in the army questioning a general about tank movements. Absolutely absurd. A total non-event, being propagandized. Utter shit.

[sabang]

I voted for Biden, the blathering idiot.

FTFY.

[sabang]

No corruption in the Ukrainian army then. Or US navy.

P.s:- are you a speed viewer? You seem to have watched that on ten times speed.

[helge]

It is interesting that you scour the internet for unsubstantiated items and heresay that reflects poorly on the ukrainians, yet not one item on the rampant and well known corruption in the russian Army.

I noticed this one on Youtube last night and started watching/ listened....and fell asleep 5 min in I reckon

Did you watch it all ?

[helge]

No corruption in the Ukrainian army then.

You gotta hand it to Snubby

He is faithful like hell

Or stubborn

[Norton]

"The Russians are bleeding to death in Bakhmut"
Colonel Andreas Schreiber is a military expert at the German Institute for Defense and Strategic Studies. In his view, the winter in Ukraine is leading to a freezing of the fronts with heavy losses on both sides. However, Ukraine is clearly better prepared for the cold season.

Will be a whole lot of bleeding on both sides. Just how much we will never know.

[sabang]

Or maybe, just plain stoopid.

[bsnub]

You gotta hand it to Snubby

He is faithful like hell

Or stubborn

No, I am just not naive, gullible and stupid like you propagandized morons. Maybe the commander of his unit should have stopped the entire convoy and got out and explained to a foreign volunteer where the weapons went.



What a bunch of clowns you useful idiots are.

[bsnub]

Will be a whole lot of bleeding on both sides. Just who much we will never know.

Well, If the Ukrainians take Kremenna to the north, Bakhmut will be effectively cut off and the Ukrainians will be into the rear flanks of the Russians. In other words, they will be royally fucked. It is all documented in the video and map posted above, take a look British Defense Analyst Professor Michael Clarke knows his stuff.

[helge]

What a bunch of clowns you useful idiots are.

As I posted:

I haven't seen it, man !

[helge]

And you elected Trump

A plural 'you'. The americans, who David 44 claims are so .................something

I voted for Biden, you blathering idiot.

Both times ?

No mention of Hillary here for a reason?

Got you

[sabang]

Q1- In a recent interview with CNN, did General Wesley Clark, former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, say the following:-


"It also serves as a sort of killing ground, for grinding up the Ukrainian forces"

"He's got a place where the Ukrainians do have to hold. They are dug in, they are holding- but they're taking heavy losses. So it's a meat grinder."


[A]- YES

or

[B]- NO

or

[C] "I watched it, you clown. He said Bakhmut was a meat grinder for the Russians"

or

[D] No answer. I am a coward with no personal integrity.

[sabang]

Joe "hunter' Biden, and Shillary. Those poor bastards. Donald Trump to the rescue!

[bsnub]

Joe "hunter' Biden, and Shillary. Those poor bastards. Donald Trump to the rescue!

You are clearly drunk. Spewing utter nonsense all over the forum. Epic meltdown is underway.

[sabang]

Epic laugh-in. You funny guy.

[bsnub]

All eyes on Kremenna.

KREMENNA/0230 UTC 8 DEC/ UKR is exploiting the interdiction of the P-66 HWY between Ploschanka and Chervonopopivka. Tactical pressure is being exerted on Kremenna in the north, at Zhytiivika, and south of the urban area at Shypylivka.

[sabang]

All eyes off Bakhmut.

Ukrainian Defense In Bakhmut On Verge Of CollapseSouth Front


And Zapo.

The Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed five of Ukraine’s newly-acquired M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) and MARS II systems in the Zaporozhye region, A spokesman for the Russian Ministry of Defense, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov, announced on December 8.

“As a result of strikes by high-precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces, five American-made MLRS and German-made MARS II rocket launchers were destroyed in the areas of the communities of Shevchenkovskoye and Grigorovskoye in the Zaporozhye Region,” the spokesman said.

The MARS II is the German copy of the MLRS system. The United Kingdom, Norway, France and Germany supplied at least 16 MLRS and MARS II launchers to Kiev forces after the start of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine. The first system was delivered in mid-July.Each MLRS or MARS II launcher can be armed with up to 12 M30/M31 series GMLRS GPS-guided rockets, which have a range of more than 70 kilometers, in two separate pods.The Russian military has been working to locate and destroy Ukraine’s MLRS and MARS II rocket launchers. Just a day earlier, the Russian MoD said that two MLRS launchers were destroyed in a precision strike that targeted the ArcelorMittal plant in the Krivoi Rog region.The Russian MoD says that some 920 multiple rocket launchers of Kiev forces have been destroyed since the start of the special military operation in Ukraine.Advanced rocket and artillery systems recently provided by the NATO gave a real boost to Kiev forces. Nevertheless, the Russian military continues to dominates the battlefield with its sheer fire power.

Russian Aerospace Forces Destroyed Five Of Ukraine’s New MLRS, MARS II Rocket LaunchersSouth Front

[helge]

Bakhmut.

Has BSnubs posted the video yet ?

The one with the russian corpses piled up in layers


Not that I'm that interested, but would be nice if he put up what he promises

[OhOh]

Will be a whole lot of bleeding on both sides. Just how much we will never know.

8 Dec, 2022 17:58 HomeRussia & FSU

American instructor reveals Ukrainian frontline death rates

Mozart Group says dire media reports about the situation in Artyomovsk/Bakhmut are true

"The Ukrainian military is taking massive casualties in the battle for Artyomovsk (known as Bakhmut by Kiev), which is the lynchpin of the Donetsk frontline, the US Mozart Group has revealed to Newsweek.The retired Marine who heads the group, which claims charity status but also trains Ukraine’s military, alleges that some units are seeing casualty rates of 70% and more.

With the Ukrainian military tightly controlling media access to the front, Mozart is notable for regularly posting photos and videos of what is going on, “which is an absolute annihilation of Ukrainian frontline towns to an extent that I have not seen in the media,” Andrew Milburn, who was a colonel in the US Marines, told the magazine.

“Bakhmut is like Dresden, and the countryside looks like Passchendaele,” he said, in reference to a German city destroyed by Allied bombing in WWII and an infamous mud-soaked WWI battlefield, respectively.

It's just a horrible and miserable place.

The few references to Artyomovsk in Ukrainian media, both legacy and social, have described the battle as a “meat grinder” with many dead and wounded, though official casualty figures have not been released.

The Russian Defense Ministry has not posted detailed claims of Ukrainian casualties in Artyomovsk, but has reported on advances both north and south of the city, threatening its encirclement.

Ukrainian units training with Mozart “have been taking extraordinarily high casualties,” Milburn told Newsweek. “The numbers you are reading in the media about 70 percent and above casualties being routine are not exaggerated.”

Ukrainians are struggling to get new recruits into the line to replace the losses, Milburn admitted, noting that about 80% of the people sent to Mozart for training have never fired a weapon before.

While admitting Mozart is giving Ukrainian troops combat training, Milburn insists his “volunteers” have a “higher emotional intelligence” and don’t actually engage in the fighting. Mozart is a registered tax-free charity “that's doing mostly humanitarian work,” he told Newsweek. Their name is a deliberate counterpoint to the Russian Wagner Group, a private military company heavily involved in the fighting around Bakhmut."

American instructor reveals Ukrainian frontline death rates — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

[harrybarracuda]

Poor fuckers, they can't even remember who is supposed to tell which lie.

Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday that the Kremlin has said nothing about “new territories,” seemingly contradicting Vladimir Putin’s earlier statement that Russia’s acquisition of “new territories” in Ukraine had been a “significant result” of the war.

https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/12/08...scharacterized

[bsnub]

Not that I'm that interested, but would be nice if he put up what he promises

I never said I was going to put anything like that up on here. I said I "could". If you want to see that stuff, go over to twitter or telegram, you will find tons of it.

[Loy Toy]

As a father I really feel really sorry for the children from both sides who will more than likely lose their fathers not to mention the hardships they have to endure.

War, although historically being a part of the human race development, is an extremely negative occurrence for so many with very few reaping rewards.

All one can hope is the the rest of the world back off and let things take its course.

I say this, and as it is obvious to me, unless Ukraine get military support, they are in a no win situation despite their efforts, willpower and bravery.

[harrybarracuda]

All one can hope is the the rest of the world back off and let things take its course.

And basically hand the bully the win.

Do we never learn?

[Iceman123]

I say this, and as it is obvious to me, unless Ukraine get military support, they are in a no win situation despite their efforts, willpower and bravery.

By military support I presume you mean boots on the ground. That will never happen US is on their side but not by their side.

It is apparent to every rational person that Ukraine is being flattened and have no chance of a victory, heroic as they have been.

[Loy Toy]

^^ Seems the west have worked out the method of destroying Russia even in the event Russia eventually destroy Ukraine and without their direct military support.

Let's see if their plan works hey Harry.

And it is never a surprise we learn something new every day.

^ As mentioned above the West, and as Ukraine have requested from day 1, have refused their request to become directly militarily involved.