Ukraine war mega thread

[misskit]

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, December 15
Dec 15, 2022 - Press ISW


Russia may be setting conditions to conduct a new offensive against Ukraine— possibly against Kyiv—in winter 2023. Such an attack is extraordinarily unlikely to succeed. A Russian attack from Belarus is not imminent at this time. Russian President Vladimir Putin’s objectives in Ukraine have not changed according to Ukrainian officials’ and ISW’s assessments based on Kremlin statements and actions. Putin continues to pursue maximalist goals in Ukraine using multiple mechanisms intended to compel Ukrainians to negotiate on Russia’s terms and likely make preemptive concessions highly favorable to Russia. This fundamental objective has underpinned the Kremlin’s various military, political, economic, and diplomatic efforts over the past 10 months in Ukraine.

Institute for the Study of War

[bsnub]

Ukrainians are getting close to liberating Kremenna, unlike the Russians, who will not be taking Bakhmut anytime soon.

KREMENNA/1820 UTC 15 DEC/ RU artillery has continued fire missions directed against the village of Pischane, indicating the presence of UKR forces on the east bank of the Krasna River. UKR precision strike munitions have targeted the P-66 HWY in the vicinity of Stara Krasnyanka.

[sabang]

Could you kindly provide a Link to your impeccable source snubski, or at least tell us what it is. Thanks.

[Norton]

https://mobile.twitter.com/chuckpfarrer

[sabang]

Well he has a wiki-
Chuck Pfarrer - Wikipedia
And some dirt on him-
Former Navy Seal's book on Bin Laden's death branded 'fabrication' | US military | The Guardian

[bsnub]

And some dirt on him-

Ok an eleven your old Guardian article is the best you can do to discredit a distinguished Naval officer (unlike you), Navy SEAL and combat veteran? An article that you clearly did not even bother to read. Yet you post shit propaganda from the Russian MOD.



The maps he posts are accurate and verifiable from numerous sources. Chuck also has contact with Ukrainian military officers as well as foreign fighters in Ukraine. I think he has a better understanding of what is going on than a bozo like yourself.

[sabang]

The average reader is quite capable of discerning the fact that I provided his Wiki entry and a Guardian article about him, where he appears to have been caught out telling porkies. Would you describe either as Russian propaganda? But on behalf of the dumbo's, thanks anyway.

[bsnub]

where he appears to have been caught out telling porkies.

He was not caught doing anything, the Obama administration did not like that his book differed from the official White house account of the raid, you dipshit. You clearly did not bother reading it. Furthermore, you really had to dig that one out of the Google verse because it doesn't even come up for me when I searched. Much ado about nothing.

You are an epic level hypocrite who has been caught lying here countless times, regularly posting propaganda, fake news and other outright falsehoods. You have zero credibility and are an epic buffoon. Trotting out an eleven-year-old article that you did not even bother to read further reinforces that you are an utter buffoon.

The reality is that you do not like what the map shows. Kremnna is going to be liberated in the coming days and will be chalked up as another on the growing list of Ukrainian victories. Stand by because more are coming.

[sabang]

So what did General Wesley Clark say in a recent interview with CNN, oh honest one?

Oh, and an excerpt from that Guardian article:-

Filled with conspiracy theories and attacks on the Obama White House, Chuck Pfarrer's Seal Target Geronimo claims the White House issued a fictional and damaging account of the raid that made the Seals looks inept. He says Barack Obama's quick acknowledgement of the raid was a craven political move that rendered much of the intelligence gathered useless. In Pfarrer's account, commandos shot Bin Laden within 90 seconds of arriving at the Pakistan compound where the al-Qaida leader was holed up.

Describing the book as a "fabrication", Nye issued an on-the-record denial on behalf of Admiral Bill McRaven, who was in charge of special forces operations at the time of the raid. Nye said McRaven was concerned that the book, which broke into Amazon's top 20 list in the US last week, would lead Americans to doubt the administration's version of events.

"We have never come forward and gone after an author and said, 'That is a lie'," Nye said. "That tells you how far off the mark we believe this book is."

Nice one recruit snubski. Try again.

[Iceman123]

???-????? ??????? / Gay-Forum of Ukraine NGO

I think snubski would be better off on a Ukranian forum.

I have found one above that should suit him perfectly

[bsnub]

Oh, and an excerpt from that Guardian article:-

Let's frame this, you clown. You are all the suddenly agreeing with the US government because its position fits your shit narrative. The US government that you hate more than any other government on the planet.

From the article...

"I have truth on my side," Pfarrer said in an interview. "I spoke to the guys on the ground and in the secondary bird," he said, referring to the aircraft carrying a second Seal team that was there to rescue the first if it came under attack inside Pakistan's borders.

SEALS talk to each other. He speaks the truth. Funny that the one time that the US government agrees with your narrative you jump on the bus.

What a fucking clown.

[NamPikToot]

Should this thread be moved to TDH as it largely seems to consist of the same posters throwing insults at each other

[bsnub]

Should this thread be moved to TDH as it largely seems to consist of the same posters throwing insults at each other

Maybe a multi-nick twat like you should be moved there as well? You trying to throw shade on other posters is massively hypocritical Whingey McFlounce/NPT/Strigils/ten other multi-nicks.

[NamPikToot]

Maybe a multi-nick twat like you should be moved there as well? You trying to throw shade on other posters is massively hypocritical Whingey McFlounce/NPT/Strigils/ten other multi-nicks.

Do fuk off you little prick, all this thread has been for the last year is you spouting the same retorts at Sabang & OhOh in between some actual posts on the subject by you all.

[Iceman123]

I think the thread would have meaningful discussion and debate if snubski was thrown in the TD jail..

It boggles the mind as to why a clueless septic is posting about Ukraine non stop on a Thai forum.

He has no connection to Ukraine nor Thailand, has never been to either and has no intention of visiting.


Weird if you ask me.

[sabang]

SEALS talk to each other. He speaks the truth.

So all of a sudden recruit snubski has decided to throw his beloved Obama administration under the bus, and declare them to be bare faced Liars in their On-the-Record refutation of this ex-Navy Seal turned B grade Hollywood scriptwriter's bullshit. There is indeed something very weird and dodgy about this Fella. Dontcha just love how he calls other people liars? You've been seen right through boy- go cry to NAFO.

[bsnub]

Do fuk off you little prick, all this thread has been for the last year is you spouting the same retorts at Sabang & OhOh in between some actual posts on the subject by you all.

Whingey McFlounce is drunk and triggered again. So easy.

I think the thread would have meaningful discussion and debate if snubski was thrown in the TD jail..

Another triggered buffoon chimes in.

He has no connection to Ukraine nor Thailand, has never been to either and has no intention of visiting.

Wrong. I have multiple connections in Ukraine and I have been consistently correct about what is happening on the battlefield in that country. This is what triggers you. You are Sabangs little lapdog bitch hence the fitting name Icebitch.

[bsnub]

So all of a sudden recruit snubski has decided to throw his beloved Obama administration under the bus, and declare them to be bare faced Liars in their On-the-Record refutation of this ex-Navy Seal turned B grade Hollywood scriptwriter's bullshit.

If that is not a run on sentence I have never been slapped by a ruler. Clearly someone is triggered.

[NamPikToot]

^^ As if to prove a point on the content of this thread in he chimes with the same crap ....i'd say daily but it's more frequent than that

[bsnub]

Icebitch sucks Sabwang and Malmodipshit joins in the clown show. Sad. I thought that Mike was on the side of the west and the right. Even as egregious and shit of a human as he may be. Sadly, I was wrong. He is just another Russian sock puppet.

[NamPikToot]

Sad. I thought that Mike was on the side of the west and the right. Even as egregious and shit of a human as he may be. Sadly, I was wrong. He is just another Russian sock puppet.

see this is you, you think there is some international conflict you are waging in a thread in a subforum on a tiny Thai centric website.

[sabang]

It's just a malevolent little troll, plain and simple. Outed.

[Norton]

Easy gentlemen. We have guests.

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[Troy]

Well he has a wiki-
Chuck Pfarrer - Wikipedia
And some dirt on him-
Former Navy Seal's book on Bin Laden's death branded 'fabrication' | US military | The Guardian

I haven't fully trusted his reporting on Ukraine either. Not since the supposed Russian airfield attack with photo from the attack on Crimea. Possibly just a mistake but needs second source for confirmation every time, something snubby fails to state...just follows blindly.

[NamPikToot]

Easy gentlemen. We have guests.

agreed but only one member is using fairly nasty language and getting upset and that would be your countryman