Ukraine war mega thread

[bsnub]

It's just helge being helge but occasionally going too far. I see his point too: not everything you see on CNN is correct either.

Who the fuck watches CNN at this point? He is a sick fuck who thinks it is ok for Putin to commit genocide today because the US allegedly did something wrong 60 years ago. This is spoon-fed propaganda straight from the Kremlin puppet masters. Surely you can not be so daft?

Russia and China have elections for their leadership. If you prefer your own country's variation, be happy.

Another of the fuckwits. These bozos are cut from the same cloth, Hal.

[panama hat]

because the US allegedly did something wrong 60 years ago

Yea, not to go off track too much but there's nothing 'alleged' about the war crimes committed by the US in Vietnam . . . which has zero bearing on what Russia is doing now, at this moment.

Valid point re. the US war crimes.

Invalid point vis-a-vis Russia now.

[bsnub]

Yea, not to go off track too much but there's nothing 'alleged' about the war crimes committed by the US in Vietnam

I do not care. Most of the people behind those crimes are dead or dying, it has no place being used in an argument about what is happening today. It is beyond egregious.

[sabang]

Oh, should we look at Iraq then? And Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, extra judicial rendition and so on? Heaven forbid we should look at Ukrainian war crimes.

[panama hat]

Oh, should we look at

blah blah blah . . . still irrelevant to your Russian fucktards invading Ukraine and murdering tens of thousands, committing countless war crimes along the way.

You want to compare, start a thread where you can 'whatabout' as much as yours and OhWoe's heart desire.

[bsnub]

Shifting away from these useful idiots and their ridiculous whataboutism, attempting to compare and or justify what their dear leader is doing in Ukraine.

This is an excellent interview with Gen. Ben Hodges discussing that this war has been going on for some time. A must-watch.

[misskit]

Battalion of Russian draftees reportedly wiped out near Ukraine’s Makiivka, survivor says hundreds killed

A battalion of Russian draftees from the Voronezh region has been wiped out on the line of contact near Ukraine’s Makiivka, Verstka news outlet reports, citing one of the survivors, Alexey Agafonov.


The man says that his battalion arrived on the front line in the early hours of 2 November.


“They sent us there and told us to dig trenches. We had only three shovels for the entire battalion, we had no equipment at all. We dug what we could, and by the morning, they’d started firing at us: from artillery, Grads [rocket launchers], mortars, drones, they shot to kill. When it started, the officers immediately ran away. Between the attacks, we tried to dig trenches, but we were detected by drones right away and shot at. Out of 570 people, 29 survived, 12 are injured, the rest are gone,” Agafonov said.


The wife of another draftee confirmed that according to her husband, hundreds of soldiers were killed in the shelling. “Over half of them are dead, for sure,” she said.


According to Agafonov, draftees from all around Russia are brought to the area to cover up defence breaches, while contract servicemen and volunteers are staying behind.


Agafonov and the surviving soldiers retreated to Svatove, where they found draftees from other crushed battalions.


“It’s a complete mess. The survivors and the newcomers are grouped into new battalions and sent to the front line to cover up the line of defence,” he said.


The spouse of another draftee from the same battalion, Lyudmila Chernykh, has also confirmed Agafonov’s words.


“He [Lyudmila’s husband] called me in the morning from someone else’s phone and told me what happened, that they sent them to dig the defence line, they came under mortar fire, and then they somehow managed to reach Svatove from Krasnodon [also known as Sorokine, a city in the Luhansk region], where they are hiding now. They are scared of going anywhere, they are afraid of even coming to the checkpoints. Their leadership has abandoned them, they don’t know what to do, they’re just asking for help,” the woman said.

In late October, it was reported that a platoon of Russian draftees of the 2nd Guards Tamanskaya Motor Rifle Division had ended up abandoned on the front line in the Luhansk region with no help from their commanders and with almost no ammunition. Mediazona talked to the surviving soldiers of the division. They said that companies of draftees were being sent to the front line in the area of Svatove without their command and without the necessary equipment.

Новая газета. Европа

[bsnub]

A battalion of Russian draftees from the Voronezh region has been wiped out on the line of contact near Ukraine’s Makiivka, Verstka news outlet reports, citing one of the survivors, Alexey Agafonov.

I have been quiet about this because my "sources" would be attacked. The Russians have been taking massive casualties over the last week. The numbers are just horrifying. We are talking about 3000+ dead in the last week alone. Apparently the Russians are just forcing conscripts to the front, just as described in your article, and they are being slaughtered.

[sabang]

You have little idea how many Ukrainians are being slaughtered- because it is being withheld from you. The (so far) failed attempt at Kherson is a bloodbath. It appears neither the Zhelensky regime or the US gives a toss about Ukrainian lives. If my 'sources' are correct, Ukie casualties far exceed Russian.

[misskit]

^ Your sources are?

[misskit]

I did see this article on Tass this morning.

Russian forces thwart Ukrainian attacks near Krasny Liman - Defense Ministry


According to Igor Konashenkov, over 60 Ukrainian troops were killed

Russian forces thwart Ukrainian attacks near Krasny Liman - Defense Ministry - Military & Defense - TASS

[bsnub]

KHERSON/ OO30 UTC 6 NOV/ RU is planning the withdrawal to the S. bank of the Dnipro River. This long-delayed move will require retreating RU units to synchronize complex retrograde maneuvers. Any RU miscues in this intricate evolution will be quickly seized upon by UKR forces.

[bsnub]

You have little idea how many Ukrainians are being slaughtered- because it is being withheld from you.

Nothing is being "withheld" from me. Unlike you, I do not get my information from state controlled propaganda outlets. So the idea of anything being withheld from me is impossible and beyond idiotic. I disseminate information from a broad scope of resources unlike yourself.

The (so far) failed attempt at Kherson is a bloodbath.

Nothing is failed.

If my 'sources' are correct, Ukie casualties far exceed Russian.

Again, just posting complete crap. Russian casualty rates are vastly higher than the more professional Ukrainian army, and they have since the early days of this war, and that is a fact.

You like the other useful idiots live in a false reality bubble. You do not like it when that bubble bursts. More humiliation is coming.

[Shutree]

KHERSON/ OO30 UTC 6 NOV/ RU is planning the withdrawal to the S. bank of the Dnipro River. This long-delayed move will require retreating RU units to synchronize complex retrograde maneuvers. Any RU miscues in this intricate evolution will be quickly seized upon by UKR forces.

It has all been delayed so long that any attempted retreat now will be the kind of logistical nightmare that the Russians haven't handled well so far. There are too few crossing points, all within range of UKR precision artillery. I was thinking that they had decided to hold out on the right bank. I'd bet that all the Russian generals making the calls are already on the left bank.

[sabang]

snubchild does not know fuck about what is really happening.

[HermantheGerman]

......Heaven forbid we should look at Ukrainian war crimes.

Thank you Sabang, for a day I thought you lost your sense of humor.

Remember how you made us laugh about the chemical labs in Ukraine.
The Ukraine must have developed a new chemical agent that makes Russian soldiers clueless and run for their lives.

[sabang]

the chemical labs in Ukraine.

So they are a laughing matter? I love your sense of humour. Do you find Auschwitz and Hiroshima a bag of laughs too?

[bsnub]

snubchild does not know fuck about what is really happening.

I have a far better idea than you do. I know people that are actually in Ukraine, for one thing, you don't. Furthermore, I also do not believe Russian propaganda while you swallow it wholesale. You have espoused a constant stream of lies in this forum and have been caught out several times. I on the other hand have been consistent the entire time in saying that Ukraine was going to win this war, and the facts are proving me right and you wrong, just like the last time when I said Russia was going to invade, and you said they never would. That is obviously a sore spot for you and some other bozos on here.

[Iceman123]

Bit pointless this thread. Too many posts getting deleted. Anything that questions the Ukraine all good and Russian all bad narrative is wiped.

FFS, surely the moderator of speakers cannot be snubbie!!!

[happynz]

Anything that questions the Ukraine all good and Russian all bad narrative is wiped.

Hang on. Helge is still posting. He bothsides like nobody's business.

[hallelujah]

Another of the fuckwits. These bozos are cut from the same cloth, Hal.

Surely you can't put helge in the same camp as OhDoh? The lunatic is completely brainwashed and away with the fairies. A fuckwit without equal (although Sabang is certainly giving him a run for his money these days).

[bsnub]

Bit pointless this thread. Too many posts getting deleted. Anything that questions the Ukraine all good and Russian all bad narrative is wiped.

Bullshit. You only come in here to attack me because you are a butthurt, angry coffin dodger. Your last posts here were just insults and nothing more. Sabang posts tons pro Russian horseshit in here, and it does not get deleted. You are just a big fucking baby.

Surely you can't put helge in the same camp as OhDoh?

He is at least on equal ground with Sabang. They are all wack jobs at the end of the day.

He bothsides like nobody's business.

Both sides? That dude is one of the most Anti-American posters on TD and a major Putin horn tooter. Both sides, my ass.

[Hugh Cow]

So they are a laughing matter? I love your sense of humour. Do you find Auschwitz and Hiroshima a bag of laughs too?

Only a laughing matter because it was the greatest load of BS that any retard could see through... Well apart from one.

I have a far better idea than you do. I know people that are actually in Ukraine, for one thing, you don't. Furthermore, I also do not believe Russian propaganda while you swallow it wholesale. You have espoused a constant stream of lies in this forum and have been caught out several times. I on the other hand have been consistent the entire time in saying that Ukraine was going to win this war, and the facts are proving me right and you wrong, just like the last time when I said Russia was going to invade, and you said they never would. That is obviously a sore spot for you and some other bozos on here.

Snubby you have to discontinue the CPR and put away the defibrillator, It is pointless to try any further, you gave it your best shot. You must face the fact that Sabang is gone. His brain is flatlining.

[david44]

Quote by Aesop: “A man is known by the company he keeps”
The UN General Assembly passed a resolution by a large majority on Wednesday, calling on countries not to recognise the four regions of Ukraine which Russia has claimed, following so-called referendums held late last month, and demanding that Moscow reverse course on its "attempted illegal annexation".

The results were 143 Member States in favour, with five voting against, and 35 abstentions.

The countries who voted against were
Belarus,
the Democratic People's Republic of Korea,
Nicaragua,
Russia
Syria.

Phhaaark you know you are in deep trouble when even bailed out Vietnam, Cuba and assorted bribable failed states won't support you. I'll be seeing ya Ethiopia

So for the likes of Klondyke, Oh Ho, Sabang where do you stand we know that Helge is in flux as all his Danish Democratic solidarity good sense says one thing , but his let's wind up a few posters button is itching?

Now let us pars shameless men

[bsnub]

Now let us pars shameless men

You are a one of a kind.