Ukraine war mega thread

[sabang]

Again, yawwwn-

In all, $31.4 billion went to the United Kingdom, $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union,

You do the maths.

[panama hat]

You should try to apply it appropriately

[bsnub]

You do the maths.

Once again, proving to be dumber than dogshit. That was a massive amount of money back then, but it hardly tells the full story.

By the end of June 1944 the United States had sent to the Soviets under lend-lease more than 11,000 planes; over 6,000 tanks and tank destroyers; and 300,000 trucks and other military vehicles.

We have also sent to the Soviets about 350 locomotives, 1,640 flat cars, and close to half a million tons of rails and accessories, axles, and wheels, all for the improvement of the railways feeding the Red armies on the Eastern Front. For the armies themselves we have sent miles of field telephone wire, thousands of telephones, and many thousands of tons of explosives. And we have also provided machine tools and other equipment to help the Russians manufacture their own planes, guns, shells, and bombs.

We have supplied our allies with large quantities of food. The Soviet Union alone has received some 3,000,000 tons. Lend-lease has contributed about 10 percent of Britain’s over-all food supply.

How Much of What Goods Have We Sent to Which Allies? | AHA

Not only would have Russia lost the war, it would have been decimated by the Nazis without US lend lease. It is also ironic that the same program that saved the Soviet Union in WW2 will be now used against them to liberate Ukraine.

You have won the prize for biggest imbecile on TD today.

[sabang]

Flag waving monkey. WW2 ended 77 years ago- have you been on the winning side of a major war since?

[bsnub]

WW2 ended 77 years ago- have you been on the winning side of a major war since?

So you realize what an utter imbecile you have made yourself out to be, so you attempt to shift gears with a ridicules pathetic whataboutism. You really are a clown at this point.

[panama hat]

Flag waving monkey. WW2 ended 77 years ago- have you been on the winning side of a major war since?

Umm . . . he was responding to your posts about how 'Germans would be speaking Russian' etc . . . so, a bit more accuracy would benefit you otherwise you do come out looking like what you call him

[harrybarracuda]

Syrians and Ukrainians share the same enemy

Could have just stopped there tbh.

[harrybarracuda]

Umm . . . he was responding to your posts about how 'Germans would be speaking Russian' etc . . . so, a bit more accuracy would benefit you otherwise you do come out looking like what you call him

I think it's fair to say sabang is a brainwashed, flag-waving imbecile, yes.

[bsnub]

I think it's fair to say sabang is a brainwashed, flag-waving imbecile, yes.

There is no doubt that he has a self humiliation fetish. I have said it before, and I will say it again;

There is no way that someone can say so many idiotic things unless he was clearly desiring to be abused as a poster. It really is that clear at this point.

It is a clear testimony to the fact that he is a useful idiot who just regurgitates the crap he reads on the propaganda sites he lives on. Most of the clowns over in those fever swamps are as clueless as he is, hence the susceptibility to dogma and propaganda.

[Norton]

Russia Resumes Ukraine Grain Deal

Russia said on Wednesday it would resume its participation in a deal to free up vital grain exports from war-torn Ukraine after suspending it over the weekend in a move that had threatened to exacerbate hunger across the world.

The Russian defense ministry said it had received written guarantees from Kyiv not to use the Black Sea grain corridor for military operations against Russia.

"The Russian Federation considers that the guarantees received at the moment appear sufficient, and resumes the implementation of the agreement," the ministry statement said.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ru...02/id/1094501/

[russellsimpson]

Damn good news. At least they are willing to talk.

Let the negotiations begin.

I think there are going to be losses of territory on the Ukraine side. If it becomes a war of attrition then Russia will win. Turkey has suddenly become more of an international player.

[Takeovers]

Let the negotiations begin.

There is nothing to negotiate, except possibly the exact methods how to repatriate the hijacked children to Ukraine.

[david44]

15 second history of invasion, reaction and retreat

http://twitter.com/buitengebieden/st...Kpu-2cz-0J7QPQ

[helge]

Actually I reckon the Germans would be speaking Russian.

Some of them did

Germans on this board would know.

(if it's ok to mention Arbeitar und Bauer Republik, der DDR)

Putin and Merkel could speak russian or german together.

Isn't that sweet ?

[helge]

So you realize what an utter imbecile you have made yourself out to be, so you attempt to shift gears with a ridicules pathetic whataboutism. You really are a clown at this point.

Bitching much today, Karensky ?

[sabang]

There is no doubt that he has a self humiliation fetish.

Says the flag waving monkey who humiliates and denigrates himself on a daily basis.
Says one of TD's most prolific Shitposters, who has never even sent foot in Thailand- and hardly in Asia. Geddalife.
Your lack of intellect and education is readily apparent- you are in fact the very definition of a 'useful idiot'.

Concerning one of your more idiotic lowbrow catchcries "Putin is having his ass handed to him on a plate" well guess what- he isn't. Has that finally began to sink through?

[panama hat]

Some of them did

Germans on this board would know.

(if it's ok to mention Arbeitar und Bauer Republik, der DDR)

Putin and Merkel could speak russian or german together.

Isn't that sweet ?

No so sure about sweet but it does show that even someone who was raised and suffered under the Soviet system saw that Europe would be a lot better off with Russia as a partner instead of an enemy. Raise the Russian living standard and modern thinking will follow. Unfortunately Putin put paid to that idea, kept his people poor and uneducated, filling them with the old stories of the suffering motherland and how awful everyone is towards Russia . . . while creating massively powerful allies.

Fuck 'em, they need to be made militarily redundant . . . they still have their nukes as a deterrent anyway . . . no-one was ever going to invade Russia, least of all NATO.

[bsnub]

Says the flag waving monkey who humiliates and denigrates himself on a daily basis.

From the clown that said Russia would have won WW2 without US lend lease.

Bitching much today, Karensky ?

There was no bitching there, you grovelling apologist. It was a victory lap. Once again, your colleague was utterly humiliated and made a fool of. Nice to see you attempting to white knight for the dimwit.

Your lack of intellect and education is readily apparent- you are in fact the very definition of a 'useful idiot'.

You are a gift that keeps on giving. You just keep doing it to yourself over and over again.

"Putin is having his ass handed to him on a plate" well guess what- he isn't.

When was the last time the Russians had any type of battlefield victory?

Smashed outside of Kyiv
Smashed outside of Chernihiv
Smashed in Kharkiv twice
Smashed around Izyum
Recently decimated around Bakhmut
Currently, being attritted in Kherson oblast

Just where is the winning happening dippy? Where?

[bsnub]

Damn good news. At least they are willing to talk.

Let the negotiations begin.

Oh, my. How could someone be so ignorant? Putin left the grain deal. Erdoğan just shoved him aside and started attaching the Turkish flag to all the grain ships. Putin rejoined in a failed attempt to avoid further humiliation.

I think there are going to be losses of territory on the Ukraine side. If it becomes a war of attrition then Russia will win.

What a clueless buffoon. Russia is losing this war, you idiot. There will be no negotiation aside from determining how much it will pay to rebuild Ukraine.

[david44]

where is the winning happening

It depends on point of view

Yet little bully, mass murderer, millionaire failure rasPUTIN is winning in some less vaunted areas

Total loss of men clear lead
Number of Ships lost down the Gurgler Titanic fortunes
Number of planes lost bigly huge
Number of abductees, abuses of civilians, Geneva convention breeches
Enormous Reputation and credibility loss irreparable

[bsnub]

You are spot on as always, David. Kerch Bridge reunites with Mosokva...

[misskit]

Mobilized Russians Launch Strike to Protest Lack of Payment

More than 100 mobilized Russian men have gone on strike at their training center in central Russia to protest their lack of payment.


The men, who hail from the republic of Chuvashia, said they still haven’t received the promised sum of 195,000 rubles ($3,170) and refuse to fight in Ukraine until they are paid.


“They are sending us to war for pennies,” one of the mobilized men told the 7x7 news website. “We’re being cheated here.”


On Tuesday night, draftees at the training center in the Volga River city of Ulyanovsk staged a protest to demand payment until security forces broke up the gathering, 7x7 reported.


The men announced a strike the following morning.

“We are risking our own lives, going to certain death for your safety and peaceful lives,” the draftees wrote in an appeal published by the Gulagu.net prisoner’s rights project.


“For whose sake, then, should we go to fight for this government, leaving our families without support? We refuse to participate in the special military operation and will seek justice until we are paid the money promised by our government headed by the president of the Russian Federation!”


A “total strike” continues at the military center in Ulyanovsk, 7x7 cited its source as saying, with the men refusing to attend training sessions.


Shooting classes at the Ulyanovsk training center have been canceled and the center's weapons storage rooms have been locked, the Sota news outlet reported Wednesday, citing unnamed sources.

Mobilized Russians Launch Strike to Protest Lack of Payment - The Moscow Times

[Norton]

the center's weapons storage rooms have been locked

A wise precaution. Last thing the Russians need is a bunch of armed and angry Chuvashians taking over the base.

[panama hat]

The men, who hail from the republic of Chuvashia, said they still haven’t received the promised sum of 195,000 rubles ($3,170) and refuse to fight in Ukraine until they are paid.


“They are sending us to war for pennies,” one of the mobilized men told the 7x7 news website. “We’re being cheated here.”

More Muslims to the slaughter . . . where them white Russians be at, Vlad???

[misskit]

Desperate Russian Draftees Have a New Battle Strategy—Pretend to Be Dead

The military draft announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin sent hordes of fearful fighting-age men fleeing for the border, but even they couldn’t have appreciated the true horror of what those unlucky enough to be mobilized and sent to the frontline in Ukraine are having to face.


Reports of drafted Russians being sent to fight with wildly insufficient training and “barely usable” equipment have abounded for weeks, but a new report suggests that recruits are resorting to pretending to be dead in the heat of battle to save their own lives.

Independent Russian outlet Novaya Gazeta Europe spoke to the wives of three men mobilized into Moscow’s 423rd Guards Motor Rifle Regiment at the end of September. The women, whose names have been changed, said their husbands are now facing court martial for leaving the frontline after being deployed into a living nightmare in Ukraine last month.

The men’s training allegedly consisted of little more than digging trenches at a camp in the forests of Belgorod Oblast in Russia before being transferred to the Luhansk region of Ukraine just two weeks later, on Oct. 14. The recruits were reportedly being commanded by two other mobilized men—neither of whom had combat experience. After their deployment, the troops’ loved ones then didn’t hear from them again until Oct. 26, when the men contacted their wives desperate for help.


One wife of a 24-year-old recruit said her husband’s company had been shelled by artillery for 12 hours, during which one of the commanders was “torn to pieces.” The surviving commander ordered a retreat—only for higher military authorities to command them to turn back to the front. “After they refused to return, they were offered new equipment, bulletproof vests, helmets—or a court martial,” the woman, referred to as “Irina,” said.


She added that her husband, along with 26 other survivors from his company, is now hiding in an abandoned house. “Their bank cards are blocked, they are without a livelihood, without money, without food, without water,” Irina said. “My husband told me that he had not eaten for several days, and we do not know what to do about it.”


Another wife, “Ekaterina,” said her 27-year-old husband was similarly trained only in digging trenches. He was allegedly sent to a section of the front in Ukraine where 76 men had been killed in shelling around two weeks before his arrival.


On Oct. 25, Ekaterina says her husband and his comrades came under a barrage of their own. “For many hours they simply lay on the ground and pretended to be dead for one simple reason: they no longer had any weapons other than machine guns,” Ekaterina said. “And there were mortars against them, drones flew over them, if they even moved a finger, then a drone would immediately fly in and destroy them.”


Reports of the appalling state of the Kremlin’s mobilized forces come after Moscow propagandists encouraged citizens to die horrible deaths for Putin rather than countenance war defeat.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/desper...-dead?ref=home