Ukraine war mega thread

[sabang]

That is some of the most laughable clown car shit that I have ever read.

Bsnub is-

pro-war
pro censorship
pro propaganda
pro trolling ops
pro Ukrainian 'government'

Yep- Caitlin has got you to a T. She knows you so well.

[panama hat]

Good Point-

Not really. You know what a good point is? Not invading a country that was of no threat, murdering hundreds of thousands.

THAT is a good point, nt your apologist bullshit.

[david44]

https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2022/10/25/ukraines-energy-operator-accuses-russia-of-secret-work-at-nuclear-plant.html

Ukraine's energy operator accuses Russia of 'secret' work at nuclear plant

Russia accuses Kyiv of planning to launch 'dirty bomb'
PTIUpdated: October 25, 2022 20:30 IST



(File) Russian military vehicles escort a motorcade transporting the IAEA expert mission while leaving the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant in the course of Ukraine-Russia conflict | Reuters

Ukraine's nuclear energy operator said on Tuesday that Russian forces were performing secret work at Europe's largest nuclear power plant, an activity that could shed light on Russia's claims that Kyiv's forces are preparing a provocation involving a radioactive device.
Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu made an unsubstantiated allegation that Ukraine was preparing to launch a so-called dirty bomb.
Shoigu made the charge in calls to his British, French, Turkish and US counterparts over the weekend. Britain, France, and the United States rejected it out of hand as transparently false.
Ukraine also dismissed Moscow's claim as an attempt to distract attention from the Kremlin's own alleged plans to detonate a dirty bomb, which uses explosives to scatter radioactive waste, in an effort to sow terror.


Energoatom, the Ukrainian state enterprise that operates the country's four nuclear power plants, said Russian forces have carried out secret construction work over the last week at the occupied Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant in Ukraine.


“Russian officers controlling the area won't give access to Ukrainian staff running the plant or monitors from the UN's atomic energy watchdog that would allow them to see what they are doing,” Energoatom said in a statement issued on Tuesday.


Energoatom said it assumes (the Russians) are preparing a terrorist act using nuclear materials and radioactive waste stored at (the plant).
It said there were 174 containers at the plant's dry spent fuel storage facility, each of them containing 24 assemblies of spent nuclear fuel.


“Destruction of these containers as a result of explosion will lead to a radiation accident and radiation contamination of several hundred square kilometres (miles) of the adjacent territory,” the company said.It called on the International Atomic Energy Agency to assess what was going on.


The Kremlin has insisted that its warning of a purported Ukrainian plan to use a dirty bomb radioactive device should be taken seriously and criticized the Western nations for shrugging it off.


“The dismissal of Moscow's warning is unacceptable in view of the seriousness of the danger that we have talked about,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday.


Speaking during a conference call with reporters, Peskov added, “We again emphasise the grave danger posed by the plans hatched by the Ukrainians.”
The White House on Monday again underscored that the Russian allegations were false.
“It's just not true. We know it's not true, John Kirby,” a spokesman for the National Security Council, said. “In the past, the Russians have, on occasion, blamed others for things that they were planning to do,” he said.
Dirty bombs don't have the devastating destruction of a nuclear explosion but could expose broad areas to radioactive contamination

[russellsimpson]

What a whole lotta noise about nothing.

This is like a couple of fourteen year old school girls name calling.

Dirty bomb my ass.

[bsnub]

pro-war
pro censorship
pro propaganda
pro trolling ops
pro Ukrainian 'government'

This is coming from one of the TD stooges? Aside from your sidekick OhDoh you post the most fake news and propaganda than any poster by a country mile. Once again, you blow the irony meter and prove yourself to be a hypocritical fool.

Anything to divert attention from what is happening on the battlefield.

[harrybarracuda]

What a whole lotta noise about nothing.

This is like a couple of fourteen year old school girls name calling.

Dirty bomb my ass.

It's something Russia is pushing as a narrative, you fucking moron.

Russia has stepped up its nuclear propaganda and delivered a letter to the United Nations claiming that Ukraine is preparing to detonate a “dirty bomb” on its territory, an allegation dismissed by Kyiv, western governments and weapons experts as absurd and an attempt at distraction or pretext for Moscow’s own escalation.

Russia steps up Ukraine ‘dirty bomb’ claim in letter delivered to UN | Ukraine | The Guardian

[HermantheGerman]

pro-war

you mean like this ?

Putin Ally Kadyrov Says Ukraine's Cities Should Be 'Erased from the Earth'

Ramzan Kadyrov, the head of Russia's Chechen Republic, called for Ukraine's cities to be "erased from the earth" as he once again criticized the military's handling of the war.Weeks after criticizing the way the conflict has been handled so far, Kadyrov, a staunch ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, said Moscow is "responding weakly" to Kyiv's counteroffensive to retake the southern Kherson region, and shelling in other areas that Putin has proclaimed to have annexed.
In an audio message on his Telegram channel on Monday night, Kadyrov for the first time also described Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine as a "war."



Putin Ally Kadyrov Says Ukraine's Cities Should Be 'Erased from the Earth'

[HermantheGerman]

Looks like the Ukrainians killed about 100 Kadyrov's scumbags...hopefully his son too.

[bsnub]

Looks like the Ukrainians killed about 100 Kadyrov's scumbags.

He is pissed off because the Ukrainians shoved a HIMARS missile up his troop's ass.

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1584638931965837316

https://twitter.com/am_misfit/status...02910631231488

[panama hat]

Looks like the Ukrainians killed about 100 Kadyrov's scumbags...hopefully his son too.

Well, that's a good start

[bsnub]

The humiliation is ongoing...

Russian President Vladimir Putin is doing his best to achieve two immediate objectives. The goal of the West must be to stop him.

First, he’s seeking to distract his nation from the blindingly obvious, namely that he is losing badly on the battlefield and utterly failing to achieve even the vastly scaled back objectives of his invasion.

Second and simultaneously, Putin is playing desperately for time – hoping the political clock and the onset of winter in Europe will sap the will and energies of the Western powers that have all but eviscerated his military-industrial machine and destroyed the armed might of Russia.

Both sides – Russia and Ukraine with its western backers – are doing their best to turn the screws ahead of a winter which could ultimately decide who will win the most titanic clashes of forces in Europe since the Second World War. It’s worth a deep look at what’s in play right now.

Europe’s energy concerns

First up, there’s the West and its ability to keep supplying the Ukrainian war machine that has proven so effective in this David v. Goliath battle.

This ability to keep going depends on a host of variables – ranging from the availability of critical and affordable energy supplies for the coming winter, to the popular will across a broad range of nations with often conflicting priorities.

In the early hours of Friday in Brussels, European Union powers agreed a roadmap to control energy prices that have been surging on the heels of embargoes on Russian imports and the Kremlin cutting natural gas supplies at a whim.

These include an emergency cap on the benchmark European gas trading hub – the Dutch Title Transfer Facility – and permission for EU gas companies to create a cartel to buy gas on the international market.

While French President Emmanuel Macron waxed euphoric leaving the summit, which he described as having “maintained European unity,” he conceded that there was only a “clear mandate” for the European Commission to start working on a gas cap mechanism.

Still, divisions remain, with Europe’s biggest economy, Germany, skeptical of any price caps. Now energy ministers must work out details with a Germany concerned such caps would encourage higher consumption – a further burden on restricted supplies.

Putin’s useful friends in Europe

These divisions are all part of Putin’s fondest dream. Manifold forces in Europe could prove central to achieving success from the Kremlin’s viewpoint, which amounts to the continent failing to agree on essentials.

Germany and France are already at loggerheads on many of these issues. Though in an effort to reach some accommodation, Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz have scheduled a conference call for Wednesday.

And now a new government has taken power in Italy. Giorgia Meloni was sworn in Saturday as Italy’s first woman prime minister and has attempted to brush aside the post-fascist aura of her party. One of her far-right coalition partners meanwhile, has expressed deep appreciation for Putin.


Silvio Berlusconi, himself a four-time prime minister of Italy, was recorded at a gathering of his party loyalists, describing with glee the 20 bottles of vodka Putin sent to him together with “a very sweet letter” on his 86th birthday.

Berlusconi, in a secretly recorded audio tape, said he’d returned Putin’s gesture with bottles of Lambrusco wine, adding that “I knew him as a peaceful and sensible person,” in the LaPresse audio clip.

The other leading member of the ruling Italian coalition, Matteo Salvini, named Saturday as deputy prime minister, said during the campaign, “I would not want the sanctions [on Russia] to harm those who impose them more than those who are hit by them.”

At the same time, Poland and Hungary, longtime ultra-right-wing soulmates united against liberal policies of the EU that seemed calculated to reduce their influence, have now disagreed over Ukraine. Poland has taken deep offense at the pro-Putin sentiments of Hungary’s populist leader Viktor Orban.

The limits of America’s ‘blank check’

Similar forces seem to be at work in Washington where House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy, poised to become Speaker of the House if Republicans take control after next month’s elections, told an interviewer, “I think people are gonna be sitting in a recession and they’re not going to write a blank check to Ukraine. They just won’t do it.”

Meanwhile on Monday, the influential 30-member Congressional progressive caucus called on Biden to open talks with Russia on ending the conflict while its troops are still occupying vast stretches of the country and its missiles and drones are striking deep into the interior.

Hours later, caucus chair Mia Jacob, facing a firestorm of criticism, emailed reporters with a statement “clarifying” their remarks in support of Ukraine. Secretary of State Antony Blinken also called his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba to renew America’s support.

Indeed, while the US has proffered more than $60 billion in aid since Biden took office, when Congress authorized $40 billion for Ukraine last May, only Republicans voted against the latest aid package.
In short, there is every incentive for Putin to prolong the conflict as long as possible to allow many of these forces in the West to kick in. A long, cold winter in Europe, persistent inflation and higher interest rates leading to a recession on both sides of the Atlantic could mean irresistible pressure on already skeptical leaders to dial back on financial and military support.

This support in terms of arms, materiel and now training for Ukrainian forces have been the underpinnings of their remarkable battlefield successes against a weakening, undersupplied and ill-prepared Russian military.

At the same time, the West is turning up the pressure on Russia. Last Thursday, the State Department released a detailed report on the impact of sanctions and export controls strangling the Russian military-industrial complex.

Russian production of hypersonic missiles has all but ceased “due to the lack of necessary semi-conductors,” said the report. Aircraft are being cannibalized for spare parts, plants producing anti-aircraft systems have shut down, and “Russia has reverted to Soviet-era defense stocks” for replenishment. The Soviet era ended more than 30 years ago.

A day before this report, the US announced seizure of all property of a top Russian procurement agent Yury Orekhov and his agencies “responsible for procuring US-origin technologies for Russian end-users…including advanced semiconductors and microprocessors.”

The Justice Department also announced charges against individuals and companies seeking to smuggle high-tech equipment into Russia in violation of sanctions.

All these actions point to an increasing desperation by Russia to access vitally-needed components for production of high-tech weaponry stalled by western sanctions and embargos that have begun to strangle the Kremlin’s military-industrial complex.

Where that leaves Russia

This pressure from the West may finally be producing real results. Putin’s announced martial law in Ukrainian territories Russia now only partly controls, attacks on civilian targets deep in Ukraine’s interior, and a new, hardline commander in Ukraine, General Sergei Shurokin, nicknamed “General Armageddon” by colleagues, all suggest a growing frustration bordering on fear that the Russian people may begin noticing what has long been blindingly obvious: Putin is losing.

This is the very moment when it is so essential that Ukraine and their western supporters push on with tenacity.

Shurokin appeared on Moscow television last week to suggest the Kremlin’s new objective – that actually dates back decades – is to force Ukraine into Russia’s orbit and keep it from joining the EU and especially NATO. Shurokin said: “We just want one thing, for Ukraine to be independent of the West and NATO and be friendly to the Russian state.”

Still, there remain hardliners like Pavel Gubarev, Russia’s puppet leader in Donetsk, who voiced his real intention toward Ukrainians: “We aren’t coming to kill you, but to convince you. But if you don’t want to be convinced, we’ll kill you. We’ll kill as many as we have to: 1 million, 5 million, or exterminate all of you.”

This should be the real fear of any in the West still prepared to waffle over 100% support of Ukraine and its people.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/25/opini...man/index.html

[Shutree]

“We aren’t coming to kill you, but to convince you. But if you don’t want to be convinced, we’ll kill you. We’ll kill as many as we have to: 1 million, 5 million, or exterminate all of you.”

Charming. Life and soul of the party, no doubt.

the Kremlin’s new objective – that actually dates back decades – is to force Ukraine into Russia’s orbit

Decades. It has been a plan all along. One that I and many better informed people missed or chose not to believe. I really believed that Russia would be a world player, within the rules. Sucker, not the only one.

joining the EU and especially NATO

The bizarre consequence of all this is tht Putin is bringing NATO's border to Russia, which NATO didn't really want before all this kicked off.

[bsnub]

I really believed that Russia would be a world player, within the rules. Sucker, not the only one.

They were given their chance on a platter by the west. We even turned a blind eye to the Yachts, and the parties, but that was not enough for Putin. Now he will be ground into glass.

[helge]

The bizarre consequence of all this is tht Putin is bringing NATO's border to Russia, which NATO didn't really want before all this kicked off.

You'd better read up on this one.

[harrybarracuda]

You'd better read up on this one.

Perhaps you should, you scandihooligan fuckwit.

Or isn't Finland close enough to Russia for you?

[helge]

^

Clueless ?

[OhOh]

First Kill? Russian Su-57 Stealth Fighter Downs Ukrainian Su-27 Jet With New Long-Range Missile – Media Claims

By Ashish Dangwal


October 19, 2022

Russian Su-57 fifth-generation fighter plane appears to have achieved its ‘first kill’ by firing a new long-range air-to-air missile to bring down a Ukrainian Su-27 fighter, local media claimed.


"The report claimed a Ukrainian fighter jet was shot out of the sky with an R-37M missile. The report says that the Ukrainian Su-27 had barely moved above the safe height to intercept the Geran-2 kamikaze drone when it was shot down.

The Russia-Ukraine war has been flooded with claims and counterclaims. EurAsian Times has reached out to Russian MOD and awaits confirmation.

The Russian R-37M long-range air-to-air missile purportedly hit the Ukrainian fighter jet. According to the report, the Su-57 is most likely responsible for firing the missile, as AWACS in Poland and Romania operating in 24/7 mode could not detect it.

Furthermore, on October 10, residents allegedly spotted an R-37M missile above one of the Ukrainian cities. However, the Russian media report provided no additional proof to support the event.
I
t also didn’t reveal the precise location of the incident in question. It is important to remember that the R-37M air-to-air missiles can also be launched from the MiG-31 and Su-35 Flankers.

It had previously been widely reported that MiG-31 fighter planes were using these missiles to attack targets in Ukraine. In line with this, Samuel Ramani, a foreign policy and defense expert, tweeted that Russian MiG-31 planes armed with R-37M missiles and Kinzhal hypersonic missiles recently landed in Belarus. On October 9, Guy Pelosi, a defense analyst, also shared a photo of a MiG-31BM equipped with four R-37M long-range air-to-air missiles under the fuselage.

He tweeted, “Interesting photo uploaded by the Fighter-bomber Telegram page showing crowd-sourced equipment displayed in front of a MiG-31BM. Note what appear to be four R-37M long-range air-to-air missiles under the fuselage.”
Meanwhile, Russian media claimed that the Russian Air Force is employing a new technique to locate Ukrainian air defense installations.

In this tactic, Russian fighter aircraft fire R-37M (RVV-BD) missiles in anticipation of a rocket or missile attack from the Ukrainian air defense systems. Thus, the Ukrainian forces’ counterattack reveals their positions.

Previously, Vitaliy Maletskyi, the Mayor of the Ukrainian city of Kremenchuk, claimed in a social media post, as cited by the Russian newspaper, that “the missiles fired at Ukraine specifically change the direction of the flight, attracting Ukrainian air defense forces.”

The Mayor refers to the R-37M missiles, which can kill high-speed air targets from over 300 kilometers.

R-37M Air-To-Air Missile

The R-37M, also known as the RVV-BD or AA-13 in the West, is a long-range air-to-air missile. It can hit high-speed air targets from more than 300 kilometers.

The missile is built by the famed Russian research and production company Vympel, which is situated close to Moscow and is best known for its air-to-air missiles.

The R-37M is a successor to or borrows technology from the Soviet Union’s R-37 air-to-air missile, built in the 1980s for the MiG-31M. The R-37M air-to-air missile can be fitted to Russian fourth and fifth-generation fighter jets. Experts believe it has the potential to increase fighter aviation performance dramatically.

The development of the R-37M was started in the late 2000s. Originally, the missile was supposed to be carried by MiG-31. However, it was later decided to upgrade the weapon to make it more compatible with the multirole fourth-generation Su-30, Su-35, and potential fifth-generation Su-57.

Su-35S aircraft started flying captive-carry missions with the R-37M in 2020, according to a report from the Russian daily Izvestia."

https://eurasiantimes.com/first-kill...ian-su-27-jet/

[docmartin]

< 'Interesting photo ... showing crowd-sourced equipment displayed'

​What ? GoFundMeWar ?

[helge]

First Kill? Russian Su-57 Stealth Fighter Downs Ukrainian Su-27 Jet With New Long-Range Missile – Media Claims

Not reading a lot of sources, still this might be the first ukranian millitary material loss, that I have heard of in 8 month.

[harrybarracuda]

^

Clueless ?

Yes you are, in every post.

[russellsimpson]

“I think people are gonna be sitting in a recession and they’re not going to write a blank check to Ukraine. They just won’t do it.”

Kevin McCarthy gets this exactly right.

Meanwhile on Monday, the influential 30-member Congressional progressive caucus called on Biden to open talks with Russia on ending the conflict while its troops are still occupying vast stretches of the country and its missiles and drones are striking deep into the interior.

To open talks with Russia while they illegally occupy about 20 percent of Ukraine is something Joe would find difficult to do. Nevertheless it's something imo that he has to do for all the reasons outlined in the article. European unity in the face of a very cold winter simply isn't going to happen. Neither is the American willingness to continue with their 'open cheque book' approach.

“We just want one thing, for Ukraine to be independent of the West and NATO and be friendly to the Russian state.”

That's a fair enough goal. Ukraine should have had a policy of non-alignment. Asking to be 'liked' by Ukraine is a bit much. Something seems lost in translation here. Too bad that the West couldn't have allowed the former Soviet Union to fall apart gracefully. Orchestrating a coup in 2014 against a freely elected government proved to be too much for the Russians. Plenty of blame to go around to all parties involved.

Good article. Good find snubby.

[helge]

Still strugling with geography and history, eh Harry ?

Let's say that Nato and Russia-SU have had shared borders since.........1949.

More added in 1999 an 2004.


I understand your post, Shutree, but it lacks somewhat in precision

[david44]

ge;4443815]Not reading a lot of sources

Go Ogle many transport and naval losses on both sides .

Just some of the admitted Ukrainian aircraft lost s , not up to date as too many for TD posts

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• Ukrainian Air Force – 2 March 2022: A Su-25 from 299th Tactical Aviation Brigade piloted by Oleksandr Korpan was lost over Starokostiantyniv, Khmelnytskyi Oblast. Korpan died as a result.[99][100][101]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 2 March 2022: A MiG-29 piloted by Alexander Brynzhal was shot down by Russian aircraft while defending Ukrainian airspace over Kyiv.[102][103] On 2 April, Brinzhal was awarded with the Hero of Ukraine order, posthumously.[104]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 2 March 2022: A Ukrainian Su-24 was shot down near Novograd-Volynsky; the pilot, Colonel Nikolai Kovalenko, and navigator, Captain Yevgeny Kazimirov, died.[105][91]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 3 March 2022: A Su-25 from the 299th Tactical Aviation Brigade piloted by Captain Vadim Moroz was lost over Mykolayv.[106][107]
• (2) Ukrainian Army Aviation – 6 March 2022: Two Mil Mi-8 helicopters from the 18th Army Aviation Brigade (Poltava) [uk] were lost by enemy fire. The four crew members, Cpt. Serhiy Bondarenko, Cpt. Oleksandr Chuyko, Major Kostiantyn Zebnytsky, and Cpt. Vladyslav Horan, died.[108][55]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 6 March 2022: An unidentified Ukrainian aircraft was destroyed at Vinnytsia Air Base after a Russian missile attack.[109]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 8 March 2022: A Ukrainian MiG-29 from the 40th Tactical Aviation Brigade, piloted by Major Andrey Lyutashyn, was lost during military action near Kyiv.[110][111]
• Ukrainian Army Aviation – 8 March 2022: A Mil Mi-24 from the 16th Army Aviation Brigade (Brody) [uk] was lost over Brovary, Kyiv Oblast. Pilots Col. Oleksandr Maryniak and Cpt. Ivan Bezzub were killed.[112][113]
• (2) Ukrainian Army Aviation – 8 March 2022: A Mil Mi-8 from the 11th Army Aviation Brigade [uk] piloted by Col. Oleg Hegechkor was lost near Kyiv. Hegechkor was awarded with the Hero of Ukraine order.[114] Another Mi-8 was shot down by a Russian missile and their pilots Ivan Pepelyashko and Oleksiy Chyzh survived and were captured. Both were released after a prisoner swap.[115][116] In all, three Ukrainian military helicopters were destroyed that day.[117]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 8 March 2022: A Tu-141 reconnaissance drone was reported crashed in Ukraine.[118] Ukraine is the only known operator of the drone.[119][120]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 10 March 2022: A Su-25, call sign Blue 31, was shot down near Nova Kakhovka, Kherson Oblast.[121][122][119]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 11 March 2022: One Tu-141 reconnaissance drone crashed in front of a student campus in Zagreb, Croatia.[123] The Croatian president, Zoran Milanović, said it was clear the drone came from the direction of Ukraine, entering Croatia after flying over Hungary.[124] The investigation conducted by the Ministry of Defence of Croatia concluded that the crashed drone had belonged to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and carried a bomb meant for striking Russian positions but it had strayed off course and crashed after it ran out of fuel.[125]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 11 March 2022: One Leleka-100 reconnaissance drone was lost over Ukraine.[126]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 12 March 2022: A Ukrainian Su-24 was shot down by Russian forces near Lyubinovka; both pilots, Valery Oshkalo and Roman Chekhun, died.[105][91]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 13 March 2022: Ukrainian military sources reported that a MiG-29 piloted by Cpt. Stepan Tarabalka was lost while defending Ukrainian airspace.[127][128]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 13 March 2022: One Tu-141 reconnaissance drone was shot down by Russian forces in Crimea.[129]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 14 March 2022: Ukrainian officials reported the loss of a MiG-29 piloted by Commander Yevhen Lysenko; his fighter was destroyed by Russian air defenses while fighting Russian aircraft near Zhytomyr.[130][131]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 14 March 2022: A Su-25 was shot down by Russian forces in Volnovakha, Donbas region. The pilot, Roman Vasyliuk, captured by Russian forces, was later released on 24 April, in a prisoner swap.[132][133]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 17 March 2022: A Bayraktar TB2 was shot down over Kyiv; the Russian Ministry of Defense published images of the drone wreckage.[134][135]
• (?) Ukrainian Air Force – 18 March 2022: Russian forces launched a missile attack on the Lviv State Aircraft Plant designed for MiG-29 repairs, which also contained foreign aircraft, leaving an unknown number of aircraft destroyed and damaged.[136]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 20 March 2022: A Ukrainian A1-SM Furia reconnaissance drone was shot down.[137]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 21 March 2022: One Su-24 piloted by Vyacheslav Khodakovsky was reported lost near Zaporizhya, Ukraine. The pilot died.[105]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 22 March 2022: A Su-25, heavily damaged in combat, was recorded in video.[138]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 23 March 2022: A MiG-29 piloted by Commander Dmitry Chumachenko from the 204th Tactical Aviation Brigade [uk] was lost in air to air combat by Russian aircraft in Zhytomir region.[139][140][141]
• (4) Ukrainian Air Force – 25 March 2022: Russian forces captured Kherson International Airport along with one Mil Mi-8[55] and three Mil Mi-2 helicopters parked there.[142]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 26 March 2022: A Ukrainian Su-24 was lost; both pilots, Major Dmitry Kulikov and Major Nikolai Savchuk, died.[105][91]
• (3) Ukrainian Air Force – 28 March 2022: During the Siege of Mariupol, Russian officials claimed that Ukrainian Mil Mi-8 helicopters were shot down near Mariupol city as they attempted to evacuate Azov Battalion officials;[143] the wreck of one Mi-8 shot down near Mariupol was recorded in video footage.[144][145][146] Of the recorded Mi-8 crash, only two crewmen survived and were captured by Russian forces; the remaining fifteen died.[147] Ukrainian officials acknowledged the loss of three Mi-8 helicopters during rescue and supply operations around Mariupol.[148]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 29 March 2022: A second Bayraktar TB2 was shot down, likely in eastern Ukraine.[149][150]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 29 March 2022: A A1-SM Furia drone was shot down by Russian forces in Chernihiv, Ukraine.[151]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 30 March 2022: A Ukrainian Su-24 bomber was recorded damaged with a trail of smoke in Rivne. The same day, two pilots of the 7th Aviation Brigade, Maxim Sikalenko, and navigator Konstantin Gorodnichev, were reported dead.[152][91][105]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 30 March 2022: A UJ-22 Airborne drone was reported shot down by Russian Pantsir S1 air defenses.[153][154]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 2 April 2022: A Bayraktar TB2 was lost in Kherson.[155][156]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 3 April 2022: A Ukrainian Su-24 bomber was reported destroyed in Ukraine. Footage of the crash site showed the wreck of an AL-21 engine, used in the Su-24.[157]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 4 April 2022: Two Il-76 from the Ukrainian 25th Transportation Brigade were destroyed on the ground by Russian forces at Melitopol Air Base. One of the cargo planes destroyed was in operational state and the other undergoing repairs.[158]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 5 April 2022: A Mil Mi-8 was shot down in Ukrainian controlled Donetsk Oblast.[159]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 10 April 2022: A Su-24 bomber, call sign White 49 was shot down by Russian forces near Izyum; the body of Alexey Khovalenko, one of the crewembers, was found.[160][161]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 12 April 2022: One Tu-143 drone was lost over Kharkiv, shot down by Russian forces.[162]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 12 April 2022: One Leleka-100 reconnaissance drone was shot down by Russian forces.[163]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 13 April 2022: The remains of a Ukrainian A1-SM Furia reconnaissance drone were recorded by Russian troops in Azovstal, Mariupol.[164]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 14 April 2022: One MiG-29 was found destroyed in Nova Basan, Chernihiv Oblast, by journalists from France 24; the ordnance the craft was carrying when it was shot down was destroyed by Ukrainian officials.[165]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 15 April 2022: A Su-25 was reported shot down by Russian forces in Izyum;[166] the downing of the fighter was recorded by a military IR camera.[167] The pilot, Captain Yegor Seredyuk, was reported killed near Izyum on 15 April.[168][169] Seredyuk was awarded with the Hero of Ukraine order.[170]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 15 April 2022: The remains of a Mi-8MSB was discovered in the north of Ukraine; the helicopter was carrying a cargo of APFSDS-T tank rounds.[171]
• Ukrainian civilian aircraft– 22 April 2022: An An-26 was lost in Zaporizhzhia raion of Zaporizhya Oblast; of the crew of three, one crew member died the others two were wounded. Ukrainian officials said heavy fog was the cause of the crash.[172][173][174]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 25 April 2022: A Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2, registration number S49T, was shot down in Kursk Oblast, Russia, after allegedly attacking a Russian base. The drone was destroyed on its way back to his base.[175][176]
• (2) Ukrainian Air Force – 27 April 2022: Two Bayraktar TB2 drones were reported shot down in Russia: one in Belgorod[177] and another in Kursk.[178] By 28 April 2022, Russian forces had successfully destroyed six Bayraktar TB2 drones as confirmed by imagery.[179]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 28 April 2022: One Tu-141 reconnaissance drone was shot down during an attack on Russian controlled Kherson.[180]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 30 April 2022: One Tu-143 drone was shot down over Bryansk, Russia, by Russian forces.[181]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 1 May 2022: A Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2, registration number S51T was shot down in Kursk region, Russia,[182] bringing confirmed losses of TB2 drones to a total of 7.[183]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 2 May 2022: A Ukrainian A1-SM Furia reconnaissance drone was shot down in Lyman.[184]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 6 May 2022: A Ukrainian Spaitech Sparrow drone was shot down in Ukraine.[185]
• Ukrainian Naval Aviation – 7 May 2022: A Mil Mi-14 helicopter from the 10th Naval Aviation Brigade piloted by Colonel Igor Bedzay was shot down by a Russian aircraft near Odesa.[186][187][188]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 10 May 2022: One Tu-143 drone was recorded crashed in Ukraine.[189]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 13 May 2022: A Ukrainian A1-SM Furia reconnaissance drone was shot down in Kharkiv Oblast.[190]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 14 May 2022: Another Ukrainian A1-SM Furia reconnaissance drone was shot down in Kharkiv Oblast.[191]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 14 May 2022: A Su-25 from the 299th Tactical Aviation Brigade, piloted by Captain Serhiy Parkhomenko, was shot down in Huliaipole, Zaporizhzhia Oblast. The pilot was buried in Vinnytsia.[192][193]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 18 May 2022: A Ukrainian A1-SM Furia reconnaissance drone was shot down.[194]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 19 May 2022: A Su-24 from the 7th Tactical Aviation Brigade was lost near Pylove. The pilots, Lt. Colonel Igor Khamar and navigator Mayor Ilya Negar, died.[195][196]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 20 May 2022: A Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 drone with tail number T274 was reported shot down in Vuhledar, Donetsk Oblast, by Russian air defenses.[197]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 22 May 2022: A Ukrainian Mil Mi-24P attack helicopter is recorded destroyed.[198]
• Ukrainian Naval Aviation – 23 May 2022: The remains of a Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2, tail number 75, was recovered from Romanian territorial waters by Romanian Naval Forces. The wreckage was first discovered on 11 May 2022 about two nautical miles of Sulina. The drone was likely shot down during the Snake Island attacks conducted by Ukraine in the first week of May 2022.[199][200]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 23 May 2022: A Ukrainian Tupolev Tu-143 drone was shot down by Russian air defenses in Rostov, Russia.[201][202]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 30 May 2022: A Ukrainian A1-SM Furia reconnaissance drone was shot down.[203]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 2 June 2022: The remains of a Su-25 were found and recorded in Kherson region. The wreck belonged to a Ukrainian Su-25 with call sign Blue-49.[204]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 4 June 2022: A Ukrainian drone of the 45th Separate Artillery Brigade recorded its own downing by a Russian Tor air defense system. They drone was likely a Spectator-M1 model.[205]
• Ukrainian civilian aircraft – 4 June 2022: A KhaZ-30 ultralight aircraft with the registration UR-KVP was destroyed due to shelling at Korotych Airfield, near Kharkov.[206]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 5 June 2022: A Ukrainian Su-27, call sign Blue-38, was shot down while flying at low altitude near Orikhiv, Zaporizhzhia Oblast. The aircraft was reportedly destroyed either by an enemy air-to-air missile or due to a friendly fire.[207][208] Ukrainian sources initially identified the aircraft as a Russian Air Force Su-25.[209]
• (2) Ukrainian Air Force – 7 June 2022: A UA Dynamics Punisher drone as well as a WB Electronics Warmateloitering munition operated by Ukrainian forces were shot down in Ukraine.[210][211]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 10 June 2022: A A1-SM Furia drone was shot down by a Russian Strela-10 air defense system. The interception was recorded on video.[212]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 13 June 2022: A Ukrainian Spectator M1 drone was brought down by Russian Electronic Warfare units; the drone was later retrieved by Russian forces.[213]
• (2) Ukrainian Air Force – 16 June 2022: Two Ukrainian MiG-29s were destroyed on the ground in Voznesensk airbase, Mykolaiv Oblast, after a Russian attack.[214][215][216]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 16 June 2022: A Ukrainian Mil Mi-8 piloted by Sergey Oleksandrovych Meheda was destroyed by enemy fire near the village of Adamivka, Donetsk.[217][218]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 22 June 2022: Two Ukrainian drones launched an attack on a Russian oil refinery in Novoshakhtinsk. One of the drones was destroyed when it struck an oil tank.[219] The footage of the attack showed a drone resembling a commercial Mugin-5 or SkyEye 5000 drone.[220]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 23 June 2022: A Ukrainian A1-SM Furia reconnaissance drone was shot down by Russian forces in Sievierodonetsk.[221]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 26 June 2022: A Ukrainian Su-24MR piloted by the Commander of the 40th Tactical Aviation Brigade Colonel Mikhail Matyushenko and an unidentified Major was lost during a military mission on Snake Island, Black Sea. Both crewmen died.[222][223][224]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 29 June 2022: A Ukrainian Tu-141 reconnaissance drone was shot down east of Kursk.[225][226]
• Ukrainian civilian aircraft – 1 July 2022: An Antonov An-12 operated by Motor Sich Airlines was damaged after skidding of the runway at Uzhgorod International Airport.[227]
• Ukrainian Army Aviation – 2 July 2022: A unidentified Ukrainian military helicopter piloted by Yevgeny Kachai crashed in Kryvorozh district, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.[228]
• (2) Ukrainian Air Force – 3 July 2022: Two Ukrainian Tu-143 reconnaissance drones were shot down in the direction of Kursk, head of the Kursk OblastRoman Starovoyt reported.[229][230]
• Ukrainian Army Aviation – 13 July 2022: One Mil Mi-8 helicopter from the 16th Army Aviation Brigade (Brody) [uk] was lost during a combat mission in Presivchivka, Donbas. The three crew members, Cmdr. Yevhen Kopotun, pilot Nazariy Kryl, and technician Bohdan Lozovy, died.[231][232]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 21 July 2022: A Bayraktar TB2 was shot down in Kharkiv Oblast, Ukraine, as it attempted to enter Russian territory; images of the drone wreckage were displayed.[233]
• Ukrainian Naval Aviation – 25 July 2022: The remains of a Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2, tail number T29, were found in Kherson.[234][235]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 25 July 2022: A Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 drone with tail number U139 was reported shot down in Belgorod Oblast.[236] Bayraktar TB2 losses reached 12 units, confirmed visually.[237]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 26 July 2022: The Ukrainian Chief of Intelligence of the 299th Tactical Aviation Brigade, Aleksander Kukurba, died while flying a combat mission on a Su-25.[238][239][53]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 30 July 2022: A Ukrainian A1-SM Furia reconnaissance drone was shot down by Russian forces.[240]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 1 August 2022: A Ukrainian Spectator M1 drone was brought down by Russian forces in the country east.[241]
• Ukrainian Air Force – 7 August 2022: One Il-76, with serial number UR-76699, was recorded under Russian control in Melitopol Airport.[242]
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  There are hundreds more do some research if names date are relevant

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To open talks with Russia while they illegally occupy about 20 percent of Ukraine is something Joe would find difficult to do

He won't have to

Meanwhile on Monday, the influential 30-member Congressional progressive caucus called on Biden to open talks with Russia on ending the conflict while its troops are still occupying vast stretches of the country and its missiles and drones are striking deep into the interior.

I think that the not so influential 30 member.........blah blah withdrew it's paper.

"it was signed in june(or july), but has not been made public until now due to a clerical error".




What a humiliation

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Go Ogle many transport and naval losses on both sides .

So some airplane and helicopter losses, mostly in the early days, overwhelming number of losses are drones, according to that list. But Ukraine have near air superiority now.