Ukraine war mega thread

[NamPikToot]

You really are a dumb fuck, Whingy McFlouncer. Let's start with the best mobile artillery gun in the world...

Just a moment...

No mate you are the dumb fuk, look here's the site, some good kit but by no means the best kit Ukraine has been supplied.

Now toddle off back to your U toob blogs. have you got a little war room set up in the basement with Eastern Ukraine with opposing sides positions marked which you update from your unverified sources This war is the best thing to happen to you since you had your first wet dream.

https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/news/military-support-ukraine-2054992

[Joe 90]

Armchair General Snubbles and his army have won this war!

have you got a little war room set up in the basement with Eastern Ukraine with opposing sides positions marked which you update from your unverified sources

[OhOh]

Water supplies have been affected by the attack, officials say

The water is flowing down the river, causing Ukraine forces, the military target, to become stuck on the wrong side and their escape pontoon bridges being washed away.

Which of course the Russians are decimating.

[Joe 90]

The Russians are getting desperate for more cannon fodder..

The founder of Russia's shadowy Wagner mercenary group has appeared in leaked footage attempting to recruit prisoners to fight in Ukraine.

In filmed footage, verified by the BBC, Yevgeniy Prigozhin can be seen addressing a large group of detainees.

Mr Prigozhin told prisoners their sentences would be commuted in exchange for service with his group.

The video would confirm long-running speculation that Russia hopes to boost its forces by recruiting convicts.

While Russian law does not allow commutation of prison sentences in exchange for mercenary service, Mr Prigozhin insisted that "nobody goes back behind bars" if they serve with his group.

"If you serve six months (in Wagner), you are free," he said. But he warned potential recruits against desertion and said "if you arrive in Ukraine and decide it's not for you, we will execute you".

He also informed prisoners of Wagner's rules banning alcohol, drugs and "sexual contacts with local women, flora, fauna, men - anything".

Speaking in what appeared to be the penal colony's exercise yard, the mercenary chief also alluded to the difficulties Russia has faced in the protracted conflict, telling prisoners that "this is a hard war, not even close to the likes of Chechnya and the others".

It is unclear who filmed the video, when it occurred or how it was released.

But the BBC has geolocated the footage to a penal colony in Russia's central Mariy El Republic. Analysts did this by conducting a reverse image search on a church visible in the background of the video, which matched to penal colony number six.

A screengrab on the recruiter's face was also run through facial recognition software tools, returning a positive match of between 71% and 75% with an actual photo of Mr Prigozhin.

What is the Wagner Group?
Separately, sources confirmed to the BBC's Russian service that the person in the video was likely Mr Prigozhin.

"This is his voice. His intonation. His words and manner of speaking... I'm 95 percent sure that this is him and this is not a montage," one source told the BBC.

"Very similar, his manner, and his voice is very similar," another said.

The 61-year-old's own company, Concord, refused to deny that he appeared in the footage, noting the "monstrous" similarity when approached by Russian state media.

Yevgeniy Prigozhin with Vladimir Putin
IMAGE SOURCE,GETTY IMAGES
Image caption,
Yevgeniy Prigozhin with Vladimir Putin in 2010
Mr Prigozhin - who is a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin - has previously denied links to the Wagner group, whose forces have been deployed in Ukraine, Syria and several African conflicts.

But in the video, the oligarch can be seen telling inmates that he is a "representative of a private war company".

"Perhaps you heard the name - Wagner Group," he asks the group of prisoners.

He said recruits must be in "good physical shape", before revealing that the first 40 recruits from a penal colony in St Petersburg were deployed during an attack on Vuhlehirska Power Station in eastern Ukraine last June.

He said the prisoners had stormed the Ukrainian trenches and attacked Kyiv's troops with knives. Three of the men - including a 52-year-old who spent more than 30 years in detention - were killed, Mr Prigozhin said.

Later in the video, he warned the convicts, who are all sporting black jump suits, that they will be expected to kill themselves with hand grenades if they are at risk of being captured.

The Wagner group's origins are shadowy, but it is believed to have been formed by an ex-Russian army officer, Dmitri Utkin.

The BBC has previously identified links between the group and Mr Prigozhin, known as "Putin's chef" - so-called because he rose from being a restaurateur and caterer for the Kremlin.

The collective is believed to have been deployed to Ukraine since 2014, and since Russia's invasion in February Ukrainian forces have carried out strikes on what they say were Wagner bases in occupied eastern Ukraine.

In August, US defence officials said up to 80,000 Russian troops have been killed or injured since the war began in February, and Moscow has reportedly turned to Wagner to fill the gap left by the heavy casualties.

Last month, independent Russian media spoke to inmates held in facilities in different locations in Russia who told them that Mr Prigozhin had personally visited their facility to recruit inmates to join the fight in Ukraine.

[OhOh]

A pity you failed to include the "BBC verified" video. But of course the BBC cannot publish it, why, "highly likely" to be a fake.

However, a fuzzy video does appear in this publication:

Putin Ally Allegedly Seen Recruiting Prisoners to Fight in Ukraine

By Kyiv Post.

Published Sept. 15 at 11:25 am

The Kyiv Post

Putin Ally Allegedly Seen Recruiting Prisoners to Fight in Ukraine - Kyiv Post - Ukraine's Global Voice

Who also has another "feather in it's cap":

TELLING YOUR BRAND'S STORY WITH A NEW, ENGAGING VOICE

About us:

The Kyiv Post launched KP BrandStudio in 2019, combining a creative staff with business, design, data analysis and journalistic backgrounds to create compelling branded content.

Just a coincidence, I suspect.

[Ravers98]

[bsnub]

No mate you are the dumb fuk, look here's the site, some good kit but by no means the best kit Ukraine has been supplied.

As usual, you have no idea WTF you are talking about. Drunk as always, Whingey McFlounce perpetually melting down and having a whinge.

The water is flowing down the river, causing Ukraine forces, the military target, to become stuck on the wrong side and their escape pontoon bridges being washed away.

Well, you dumber than dog shit propagandist, it turns out the water is having more of an effect on Russian defensive positions than on the Ukrainian pontoon bridges.

[panama hat]

As usual, you have no idea WTF you are talking about. Drunk as always, Whingey McFlounce perpetually melting down and having a whinge.

He's almost as good as Backspit in doubling down on his crap . . . luckily bor Backspit he has a bit of a personality and isn't perpetually drunk.

When confronted with facts he . . . as always gets all angry:

you are the dumb fuk

[misskit]

Russian Hypersonic Missile Accidentally Strikes Russia

Social media users have speculated that an object that crashed in a Russian city around 220 miles from the Ukrainian border may have been a stray Russian hypersonic missile.


The incident took place in the Turkmen district of the Stavropol region on Wednesday according to the Ukrainian military center, which said that when emergency responders tried to control the flames, an explosion took place on the ground, injuring six people.


Russian media channels said the object was a Ukrainian Tu-141 Strizh reconnaissance drone, but the Ukrainian military center said that the wreckage found at the site of the explosion "does not support this version."

Images of the aftermath of the incident led Twitter users to note similarities between the wreckage of the aircraft and the Russian Kinzhal missile, in particular, the winglets and the separation mechanism of the weapon's booster, according to online publication Aerotime


"Anyone wondered what #crashed today in #russian Stavropol' region injuring 6 firefighters, you'd be very much surprised to know that it wasn't a 'Ukrainian UAV,' but a russian #Kinzhal missile," tweeted user LotA.

In a follow-up tweet, the user suggested that the "booster" or the nozzle's aerodynamic cover had not separated from the missile, "which would probably mean that the main engine didn't ignite...my guess would be a failed launch towards Ukraine."

The thread was shared by open source user OSINTtechnical who wrote to their 618,000 followers, "In the last 6 months, Russia has hit Ukraine with three Kh-47M2 Kinzhal 'hypersonic' missiles and itself with one."

Aerotime reported that the presence of a booster on the wreckage likely indicated that the missile either misfired or was accidentally dropped by an aircraft.


The Kinzhal missile is a hypersonic weapon that is among a new generation of weaponry that Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly touted as a sign of Moscow's military might. Russia says that it can reach up to 12 times the speed of sound.

Ukrainian officials said that the same missile had been used by Russia to target the dam of the Karachunivske Reservoir in Kryvyi Rih, a city in the center of the country which is the birthplace of President Volodymyr Zelensky.


Oleksandr Vilkul, the head of the city's military administration, said Russia had also used Iskander missiles to target the reservoir, The New Voice of Ukraine reported, although it is not clear if the incidents are related.


The strikes destroyed a water pumping station and flooded the embankments forcing the evacuation of some residents, CNN reported.

In his nightly address, Zelensky condemned the strikes, saying they had "no military value at all" and by trying to impact "hundreds of thousands of ordinary civilians" was another reason "why Russia will lose."


Newsweek has reached out to the Russian defense ministry for comment.

Russian Hypersonic Missile Accidentally Strikes Russia

[misskit]

Team Putin Threatens Maniacal Response to Bitter War Losses

The humiliating defeats of Russia’s Armed Forces in Ukraine are prompting the Kremlin’s mouthpieces to propose increasingly violent tactics. Lobbying for a “scorched earth” policy on state television, Russian pundits and expert guests have been openly comparing the Ukrainian battleground to Chechnya, Syria, and even the infamous Beslan school massacre, where Russian special forces killed many hostages along with their terrorist captors.


Appearing on Wednesday’s broadcast of the state TV show 60 Minutes, military expert Igor Korotchenko said: “This is a new reality, which is why we should be acting quickly, harshly and uncompromisingly. First of all, we need to scale up our strikes against critical infrastructure in such a way that one region after the next, one district after another, Ukraine is plunged into darkness... By December, 20 million residents of Ukraine should flee to the West, to the European Union. This is our goal and the task we should accomplish.”


Korotchenko proposed: “Perhaps we should openly declare: ‘Leave. Zelensky is turning this territory into a real hell. No one knows what will happen here next. Twenty million, go to Europe.’ After that, we sink region after region into darkness. This is our enemy nation, the modern Third Reich, and we should act accordingly.”


Similar proposals permeated Russian airwaves, with experts arguing that the rules of the civilized world prohibiting war crimes are merely recommendations, compliance with which is optional. On Monday, appearing on The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, Andrey Sidorov, deputy dean of world politics at the Moscow State University, explained why those international conventions are irrelevant: “The rules of war, according to international conventions, are of an advisory nature: not to strike [certain objects], if possible. But it’s no longer possible.”


Appearing on the show The Meeting Place on Monday, Bogdan Bezpalko, member of the Council for Interethnic Relations under the President of the Russian Federation, argued: “As far as what needs to be done, as I previously said, we need to strike the infrastructure—which can’t be separated into military and civilian. If all of Ukraine is plunged into cold and darkness, if they have no fuel, reserve armies won’t help them and no one will be able to deliver equipment or ammunition... These strikes should go on for two, three, five or six months in a row, leaving not one gas station intact.”

Konstantin Zatulin, deputy chairman of the committee of the State Duma for the CIS, said on 60 Minutes: “This military operation—or this war—is entering another phase... The idea that we could achieve a victory with little blood or one massive strike is now in the past... Last week, there was a widespread message—everywhere, except for our television— that this is no time to celebrate, while we’re experiencing difficulties and failures at the battlefront, while we’re retreating... We are pondering what they will do. We need to overcome that... because victory is our only option.”


Host Olga Skabeeva cautioned: “Don’t scare our people prematurely, as I understand you’re talking about the possibility of mobilization.” Even the most gung-ho propagandists admit that the Russian society would be deeply unsettled at the thought of total military mobilization, and that the country’s economy is not currently equipped for such a step. The only alternative proposed by the state TV’s talking heads is inflicting utter devastation upon Ukraine.


Professor Alexei Fenenko, leading research fellow at the Institute of International Security Studies, attempted to lay the blame for Russia’s increasing brutality upon the United States. With images of the city of Mosul in ruins playing on the screen, Fenenko claimed: “After February 24, they waited for us to do this to key cities in Ukraine. Then they would have said, ‘Yes, those guys are strong.’” Without a hint of self-awareness, Skabeeva noted that the bodies of the dead were left on the streets of Mosul, to decay in plain sight. Fenenko noted that this gesture was meant as a message to other enemies.


Neither Skabeeva nor Fenenko made any mention of the horrific scenes in Ukraine that unfolded in recent months, when the retreating Russian troops left multiple corpses of Ukrainian civilians on the streets of Bucha, and scores of massacred civilians in other towns and cities.


Fenenko argued that in order to be respected by the United States, Russia has to reduce much of Ukraine to rubble. He said that America respects only those who can inflict devastating damage upon their adversaries: “Either you can do this to your enemies, or else you’re a nobody. If you can’t do it, you’re a coward and a loser.”

Team Putin Threatens Maniacal Response to Bitter War Losses

[bsnub]

[harrybarracuda]

The water is flowing down the river, causing Ukraine forces, the military target, to become stuck on the wrong side and their escape pontoon bridges being washed away.

Which of course the Russians are decimating.

Was that nonsense from TASS or PRAVDA?

[harrybarracuda]

Putin be like...

[harrybarracuda]

Puffy has his nose right out of joint being lumped in with Syria, Afghanistan, etc. and not invited to the Royal Funeral.

Which is nice.

[David48atTD]

^^^^ Excellent video snubbs!

[OhOh]

^^^^ Excellent video snubbs!

Agree. One of the clearest presentations I've seen.

A pity he stopped prior to the offensive, by the 16% troops, prior to the conclusion.

Russian defensive positions

Some meat to your speculation would assist us all to come to our agreement, or not.

[NamPikToot]

As usual, you have no idea WTF you are talking about. Drunk as always, Whingey McFlounce perpetually melting down and having a whinge.

but i do, its you who gets your "facts" from bloggers and u toob, and any supposed drunken meltdown is in your and that Kraut nut jobs heads. Now haven't you got some newly discovered highly decorated Mercan hero blogger with CIA and NSA up to the minute in-theatre intel to regale us with?

[OhOh]

it turns out the water is having more of an effect on Russian defensive positions

As your video #8461 (Ukraine war mega thread) stops prior to the water flow down the river and it's affects.

Care to post your alleged locations of the forces? The evidence of the bridges withstanding the river flow?

One post, from ASB Military News with a before and after image, illustrating the alleged flooding affect of the river on the adjacent land.

Telegram: Contact @asbmil

The included comment:

"The extent of the flooding in Krivoy Rog after Ukrainian Dam hit by Russian Strategic Bombers.

Russian X-101s accomplished what HIMARS is trying to do for 41 days straight — in 20 minutes.

That must sting a little bit for the Ukrainian side."

Accurate, who knows, biased, probably.

[bsnub]

Now haven't you got some newly discovered highly decorated Mercan hero blogger with CIA and NSA up to the minute in-theatre intel to regale us with?

No, I just called your connections with MI6.

[Joe 90]

Similar proposals permeated Russian airwaves, with experts arguing that the rules of the civilized world prohibiting war crimes are merely recommendations, compliance with which is optional. On Monday, appearing on The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, Andrey Sidorov, deputy dean of world politics at the Moscow State University, explained why those international conventions are irrelevant: “The rules of war, according to international conventions, are of an advisory nature: not to strike [certain objects], if possible. But it’s no longer possible.”

It's not gonna end well for either side and have more of a knock on effect for the rest of the world.


Why doesn't someone put a bullet between Putins eyes?

[harrybarracuda]

Why doesn't someone put a bullet between Putins eyes?

Because he's a fucking coward who hides behind massive CPP.

[Takeovers]

A list of operational equipment captured by Ukraine forces during the Kharkiv offensive, as listed so far.

[NamPikToot]

^ verified?

[Takeovers]

verified?

Official Ukrainina numbers. I see that as reliably verified.

To be clear, the graphic is from social media. Consistant with a lot of infos.

[David48atTD]

Vladimir Putin's war in Ukraine is going so badly even loyal bloggers are turning on him

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Kremlin troops have been fleeing a Ukrainian counteroffensive that inflicted a stunning blow to Moscow's military prestige.(AP: Kostiantyn Liberov)

Like the first green shoot after a devastating bushfire, the blue-and-yellow Ukrainian flag was raised above the burned-out city hall in Izium on Tuesday, just days after the city was recaptured from Russian forces.

It's one of dozens of settlements in Ukraine's north-east Kharkiv region back under Ukrainian control, following lightning advances made by Kyiv's soldiers last weekend.
Abandoned Russian tanks and armoured vehicles point to a chaotic retreat by the occupying force, which Moscow has tried to pass off as a "regroup".

The surprise eastern counteroffensive, planned months in advance, has been hailed as a turning point in the war.
But it comes as a separate assault drags on in the south of the country, while Russia maintains its grip on the sprawling Donbass region.

Whether Ukraine can capitalise on the momentum that saw it claw back thousands of square kilometres relies on a several key factors, not least the ongoing support of the West.

Link HERE for all 6 parts