Ukraine war mega thread

[bsnub]

Makes this current stoush look like a picnic.

No it doesn't, and it is not even close. Never in any seven-month period of the wars in either Iraq or Afghanistan did civilian casualties come anywhere close to what has happened in this war. The US never indiscriminately bombed entire cities to the ground with heavy artillery. The US never attacked civilian targets in Baghdad with cruise missiles. It is not even worth comparing as it is not even close over the same amount of time.

It is just another of the countless idiotic whataboutisms you roll out in a failed attempt to justify the unjustifiable. You are a pathetic bottom feeding lowlife.

[harrybarracuda]

Why does our Moscow-trio admire war criminals so?

And paedophiles.

[OhOh]

11 Oct, 06:40Updated at: 07:20

Ukrainian military shell LPR town of Stakhanov using HIMARS launchers

Information about possible casualties is still to come

MOSCOW, October 11. /TASS/.

"The Ukrainian military shelled the town of Stakhanov in the Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR) on early Tuesday, firing two rockets from a US-made HIMARS multiple rocket launcher, the LPR mission to the Joint Center for Control and Coordination of issues related to Ukraine’s war crimes said.

"A shelling attack was registered from positions held by Ukrainian armed formations: at 0:50 a.m. [Moscow time], two rockets were fired towards Stakhanov from the HIMARS MLRS," the mission said in its Telegram channel. "Information about possible casualties is still to come."

The Ukrainian military keep delivering strikes almost everyday with the use of HIMARS rocket launchers targeting residential areas of the Lugansk People’s Republic. LPR’s city of Rubezhnoye was shelled on early Monday and the city of Starobelsk came under a rocket attack a day earlier."

Ukrainian military shell LPR town of Stakhanov using HIMARS launchers - Russia - TASS



May 30, 202210:36 PM GMT+7Last Updated 4 months ago

U.S. will not send Ukraine rocket systems that can reach Russia, says Biden

U.S. will not send Ukraine rocket systems that can reach Russia, says Biden | Reuters

October 5, 202212:10 PM GMT+7Last Updated 6 days ago

U.S. to give Ukraine more rocket launchers, Biden tells Zelenskiy

By Nandita Bose

and Mike Stone


U.S. to give Ukraine more rocket launchers, Biden tells Zelenskiy | Reuters

[bsnub]

Along comes the other bottom feeder.

[aging one]

Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR)

Lets see what that really is.


The Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) were two Russian-supported breakaway entities in the Donbas region of Ukraine. The DPR and LPR were proclaimed by pro-Russian separatists in 2014 during the War in Donbas. The militants running the republics held secession referendums, on 11 May 2014. The results of the referendums were not officially accepted by any government except Russia. The Ukrainian government regards the pro-Russian separatists as terrorists.

That one does deserve an Oh Oh!!!

[helge]

And you are a shit disturbing contrarian troll

Nope, Pickel

The influenzing NAFO fellas are taking care of that

In addition to posting irreverent commentary about the war and memes promoting Ukraine or mocking the Russian war effort and strategy ("shitposting"),

Still can't believe that Goofy admitted to that

And you are a fool, a drunk one at that.

Exhibit 9089

In addition to posting irreverent commentary about the war and memes promoting Ukraine or mocking the Russian war effort and strategy ("shitposting"),

[bsnub]

Still can't believe that Goofy admitted to that

You dumb fucking retard. Only a bozo like you would think it is something to be ashamed of, but then again, you are a bottom feeder just like Sabang and the other Putin cum guzzlers on here and really have never posted anything of substance anyway.

Funny thing is, you calling anyone "goofy" is beyond hilarious you fucking fruit loop.

[helge]

Only a bozo like you would think it is something to be ashamed of

Who talks about being ashamed ?

You have called others 'trolls' for a long time and asked them to be 'doghoused' banned etc.

And you are one yourself.


Up to you, but now TD know where you get your stuff from.


And admitting it ?

Check mate.


Wonder how the mods feel about a resident troll ?

Nah, actually I don't

and really have never posted anything of substance anyway.

What ?

I have recently informed you about the salt content regarding the Sea of Asov

A 'thank you' would be welcomed

[harrybarracuda]

Skidmark takes a break and then the scandi wanketeer takes over.

Hmmmmmmm

[bsnub]

Up to you, but now TD know where you get your stuff from.

No, TD does not "know" where I get anything from, you utter imbecile. NAFO does not provide talking points, it isn't even an organization. It just happens to be a group of guys who enjoy taking the piss out of clowns like you.

Check mate.

You could not checkmate a five-year-old.

I have recently informed you about the salt content regarding the Sea of Asov

You might have had a point if the bridge was inside the Sea of Azov, but it isn't it is on the Black Sea side of the channel, so it is exposed to the salinity of the Black Sea.

So ya, your point of "substance" was horseshit.

Skidmark takes a break and then the scandi wanketeer takes over.

They all have humiliation fetishes.

[bsnub]

Russia running out of weapons as it faces 'staggering' numbers of casualties, spy chief says

Russia is running out of weapons for its war in Ukraine and the costs to the Kremlin are "staggering" in terms of soldiers killed and equipment lost, a UK spy chief will say.

Sir Jeremy Fleming, the head of GCHQ, will use a rare, public speech today to say the Ukrainian armed forces are "turning the tide" on the physical battlefield as well as in cyberspace.

The top intelligence officer will also talk about China - the main focus of his comments.

He will say Beijing is seeking to exploit technologies in space and online in ways that could pose a "huge threat to us all".

Sir Jeremy will flag concerns about the potential for the Chinese government to target the satellites of opponents at a time of conflict, crippling a crucial domain relied upon by militaries to launch weapons and communicate. It is feared the technology could also be used to track people.

He will also say the Chinese Communist Party is "learning the lessons" from Russia's war in Ukraine, which has seen the UK and its allies hit the Russian economy with sanctions.

Sir Jeremy will describe how Beijing could use digital currencies to track people's transactions and also help to protect its economy from the sort of sanctions being applied to Vladimir Putin's regime.

Western allies are watching China closely amid concerns President Xi Jinping might be considering an invasion of the island of Taiwan, using the lessons drawn from Russia's attack on Ukraine to bolster its defences against any Western response.

In a speech at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) in London, the director of GCHQ will touch on the war in Ukraine.

He will call decision-making by Russian President Vladimir Putin "flawed" following a failure to seize Kyiv in the first days of the war and a failure to make the gains he had wanted to achieve in the east.

"It's a high stakes strategy that is leading to strategic errors in judgement," Sir Jeremy will say, according to excerpts of the speech released on Monday night.

"Their gains are being reversed. The costs to Russia - in people and equipment are staggering. We know - and Russian commanders on the ground know - that their supplies and munitions are running out.

"Russia's forces are exhausted. The use of prisoners to reinforce, and now the mobilisation of tens of thousands of inexperienced conscripts, speaks of a desperate situation.

"They're fleeing the draft, realising they can no longer travel. They know their access to modern technologies and external influences will be drastically restricted. And they are feeling the extent of the dreadful human cost of his war of choice."

The main thrust of the speech will be about China and the critical importance of Western allies staying in the race for technological advantage.

The head of GCHQ will highlight a paradox that Beijing's "great strength combined with fear is driving China into actions that could represent a huge threat to us all".

Talking about the huge importance and impact on daily life of emerging technologies, Sir Jeremy will refer to a "sliding door moment" in history, using the rather unusual analogy of the 1998 romantic comedy starring Gwyneth Paltrow in which a seemingly inconsequential event - catching a train before the door slides shut or missing it - has huge implications.

The spy chief will underline the need of ensuring Western allies have technological solutions that do not rely on China given the divergence in values between democratic and authoritarian regimes.

"At GCHQ it is our privilege and duty to see the sliding door moments of history," he will say.

"This feels like one of those moments. Our future strategic technology advantage rests on what we as a community do next. I'm confident that together we can tilt that in our collective favour."

Highlighting the dangers of not acting, he will accuse the Chinese government of using its financial and scientific clout to manipulate key technologies such as satellite systems and digital currencies to expand its sphere of influence and tighten its grip on power at home.

He will talk specifically about the BeiDou satellite system which the authorities have forced Chinese citizens and businesses to adopt as well as exporting it around the world.

Sir Jeremy will say: "Many believe that China is building a powerful anti-satellite capability, with a doctrine of denying other nations access to space in the event of a conflict. And there are fears the technology could be used to track individuals."

He will also talk about central bank digital currencies that allow China to monitor the transactions of users.

In addition, the GCHQ boss will say how a centralised digital currency could "enable China to partially evade the sort of international sanctions currently being applied to Putin's regime in Russia".

Russia running out of weapons as it faces 'staggering' numbers of casualties, spy chief says | World News | Sky News

[misskit]

Russians Buy Books on Nazi Germany, WWII Following Mobilization Call

Russians are increasingly buying books about Nazi Germany and World War II following President Vladimir Putin’s “partial” mobilization of civilian reservists for the war in Ukraine.


Sales of books about World War II surged by 20% despite an overall decline in book sales across Russia, the Kommersant business daily reported Tuesday, citing leading bookstores and publishing houses.


"Literature that directly captures the events of the actual moment has not yet been written and will not be written for a long time, so people intuitively look for historical eras with seemingly correlating experiences,” literature critic Galina Yuzefovich told Kommersant. “People are trying to look where they can find a convincing metaphor or allegory that will allow them to understand something about today.”


Sales of Nicholas Stargardt’s “The German War: A Nation Under Arms, 1939-1945,” which explores how German citizens perceived the events of the war, were up fivefold following Putin’s Sept. 21 mobilization announcement in the Chitai Gorod (“Read City”) bookstore chain.


The LitRes online bookstore reported a seventeenfold increase in sales of Stargardt’s book.


The Alpina publishing house said it saw a 40% increase in sales of Viktor Frankl's “Yes to Life: In Spite of Everything,” which describes the psychology of being in a concentration camp. Sales of digital copies of Frankl’s book on LitRes were 3.7 times higher in September as well.


Putin’s announcement of a “partial” nationwide mobilization sparked protests in several regions of the country and a massive wave of emigration. The chaotic roll-out of the mobilization campaign forced the president to admit “mistakes” in the process.

Russians Buy Books on Nazi Germany, WWII Following Mobilization Call - The Moscow Times

[sabang]

Hasn't shitpost snubtard become an utter embarrassment to the Forum? You've got to wonder about his mental health, not to wonder what sort of no- life spends so much time on a Thai forum, a place he has never been in his boring life. I suppose we should pity him. Geddalife loser.

[misskit]

Forbes Ukraine: Russia spent at least $400 million attacking Ukrainian cities on Monday

The wide-scale missile attack on cities throughout Ukraine on Monday cost the Russian government between $400 million and $700 million, according to an estimate from Forbes Ukraine.


On October 10 alone, Russia launched 84 cruise missiles and deployed 24 drones, the outlet reported, citing official sources. The broad range of the estimate is due to the fact that the number of each specific type of missile Russia used is unknown. According to available data, however, Russia’s military fired Kh-101 missiles ($13 million each), Kalibr missiles ($6.5 million each), Iskander missiles ($3 million each), Onyx missiles ($1.25 million each), Kh-22 missiles ($1 million each), and Tochka-U missiles ($300,000 each). The drones Russia used on Monday cost several million dollars total.

https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/11...ties-on-monday

[bsnub]

Hasn't shitpost snubtard become an utter embarrassment to the Forum?

In what way exactly? That I call you out for your repetitive, tiresome dross? If anyone is shitposting, it is you and your buddy Heldge.

You've got to wonder about his mental health, not to wonder what sort of no- life spends so much time on a Thai forum

Do you ever read your own posts? The irony is strong with you, but I suppose the reason you are addled at the moment is that Ukraine has taken more territory in the Kherson oblast.

Anything you and your ilk can do to accuse others of "shit posting" and drag the thread off-topic to avoid the reality that Russia is losing the war.

[David48atTD]

"Two reasons: complexity, and too much money"
FULL- EPIC FAIL: Why Most US Weapons Systems Are Worse than Russia's
Dreizin is amerkin you know, ex-US Army. Anyone who wants to read it can decide for themself.

MORE CRAP

He wrote that 4 years ago! ... "This article from our archives was first published on RI in April 2018"

What is decisive comparison weaponry?

The M-16 Assault Rifle

The M-1 Abrams tank

Well, he doesn't even compare weaponry ... just promotes his idea that their performance was, IHHO less than optional in a sandy environment.

[David48atTD]

So ... back on track ... how functional is that Railway?

[sabang]

Well obviously an experienced Army veteran like you (I assume?) will be able to tell us exactly why he is wrong, rather than just take ad hom little pot shots at the author, based on the alarming fact he posts what you don't want to hear. Unfortunately, that is what you seem to have reduced yourself to these days- although I do recall you being much more interesting than that.

I am in no position to compare the pros and cons of weaponry, but of course it is no secret that the sheer waste in Defence contracting/ Pentagon purchasing is the stuff of legend ($640 for a toilet seat?). Not much different here in Australia Tbh. One wonders how many schools, hospitals, highways etc could have been funded by all that waste, on stuff just designed to kill other people in various lurid ways.

^ Functional enough that 17 trains crossed the Kerch Bridge the day before yesterday, according to the NY Times.

[harrybarracuda]

Hasn't shitpost snubtard become an utter embarrassment to the Forum? You've got to wonder about his mental health, not to wonder what sort of no- life spends so much time on a Thai forum, a place he has never been in his boring life. I suppose we should pity him. Geddalife loser.

Ouch, sounds like snubby's hit a nerve.

I'm afraid you're the big fucking joke here.

[bsnub]

Well obviously an experienced Army veteran like you (I assume?) will be able to tell us exactly why he is wrong, rather than just take ad hom little pot shots at the author, based on the alarming fact he posts what you don't want to hear.

Who is "he" you post so much crap on these threads it is hard to keep up.

Unfortunately, that is what you seem to have reduced yourself to these days- although I do recall you being much more interesting than that.

Something I have said about you countless times since you bought into this Russian shill bullshit. You used to be a well reasoned SC mod who was very balanced. Not anymore, and not for a long time. Sad really.

I am in no position to compare the pros and cons of weaponry, but of course it is no secret that the sheer waste in Defence contracting/ Pentagon purchasing is the stuff of legend

It comes nowhere near the corruption that is rife in Russian society and from the top down of their pathetic military.

FFS, the corrupt bastards sold all of their cold weather gear. It would come as no surprise to me if it was the Ukrainians that bought it and then took a torch to it, since it is all shit anyway, just like all Russian military gear.

[bsnub]

Russia-Ukraine war – live: Putin’s troops ‘move into Belarus by trainload’

A bunch of cannon fodder.

[sabang]

Have you joined NAFO yet 'arry? Sound like your kinda guys.

[bsnub]

Have you joined NAFO yet 'arry? Sound like your kinda guys.

Nice comeback dippy.

[bsnub]

Clearly, the brief celebration of terrorist attacks on civilians by the Putin jizz swallowers was short-lived. Now the offensive to liberate Ukraine will continue...

https://twitter.com/CasualArtyFan/st...29090121748480

[misskit]

Ukrainian forces continue their advance in Kherson region, enemy changing defensive lines

In the Kherson region, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are pushing the enemy back to positions they constructed earlier.
Nataliia Humeniuk, head of the joint press center of Ukraine's southern defense forces, said this on Ukraine's television, Ukrinform reports.


"What is happening on land is the development of the situation under the control of the Defense Forces. We continue to liberate our territories. We continue to push back the enemy, in particular in the Kherson region, where it is already changing its defensive lines to deeper ones, the ones that were constructed earlier. Over the past seven months, they have been trying to dig in there using reinforced concrete structures," Humeniuk said.

She also refuted reports by Russian propaganda that the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kherson region has stopped.


"Our fire control continues, and it has a very significant impact on the enemy's ability to continue their combat operations. This is the destruction of ammunition, this is the destruction of equipment, and the enemy has fewer and fewer chances to bring reserves," Humeniuk said.

Ukrainian forces continue their advance in Kherson region, enemy changing defensive lines – defense spokesperson