Ukraine war mega thread

[bsnub]

Oh look, it's the clown who swore the war would never happen. We all thought you flounced.

[sabang]

Lost ya sense of humor all of a sudden snubs?

[HermantheGerman]

And Jack Matlock, John Mearsheimer, Noam Chomsky, David Stockman and many other foreign policy realists. The Biden admin has totally stuffed it up, and seriously hurt their so called close allies in the process. Which is why I cannot wait to see the arse end of them.

You forgot one

Putin still has no need to invade Ukraine, but if Ukraine are silly enough to launch a war vs Russia, so be it. Putin just flipped y'all the bird- just as Paul Craig Roberts predicted.

You silly little Man-Child !

[sabang]

Feeling all sore because it isn't working out as you hoped, naive boy?? There there, blame the propaganda machine that treated you simple people like idiots.

[bsnub]

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson says that the Russian military's push in eastern Ukraine is exacting a high toll on its troops and resources, which he said could thwart future advances by the Kremlin.

Johnson, citing intelligence from his country's defense services, remarked on the momentum of Russian troops and potential for exhausting their resources in an interview published Wednesday by Germany's Süddeutsche Zeitung, reports Reuters. The British prime minister offered a more upbeat outlook on Ukraine's position in the conflict following reports that Russia has gained ground after pivoting its war effort.

After failing to take the Ukrainian capital city of Kyiv earlier in the conflict, Russia's military has turned to the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine. The region is home to a large Russian-speaking population and two breakaway republics friendly with the regime of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Russian forces have seen success in their new push in Donbas and have taken control over much of the strategically important city of Severodonetsk.

However, Johnson suggested Russia's recent gains won't hold.

"Our defence intelligence service believes, however, that in the next few months, Russia could come to a point at which there is no longer any forward momentum because it has exhausted its resources," Johnson said in the interview, according to Reuters.

The U.K. Ministry of Defence said in an assessment of the conflict earlier this month that Russian forces "have generated and maintained momentum" over Ukrainian troops and were on the cusp of taking full control of the Luhansk region.

But the ministry's assessment found these gains came at a "significant resource cost" and Russia maintaining them would require a "continued huge investment of manpower and equipment."

Johnson has been a vocal supporter of Ukraine and its president, Volodymyr Zelensky, and last week made a high-profile visit to Kyiv. He said he would argue for continued military support for Ukraine at a summit of the Group of Seven (G7)—a meeting of advanced industrial democracies—in Germany over the weekend, according to Reuters.

"In as much as the Ukrainians are in a position to start a counter-offensive, it should be supported. With equipment that they demand from us," Johnson said, according to Reuters.

The British leader made the remarks in an interview with Süddeutsche Zeitung, among other European media outlets.

When asked by Italy's Corriere della Sera newspaper about how the conflict should end, Johnson said Russian forces should be expelled from areas of Ukraine they've invaded. For that to happen, he said Western powers must continue aiding Ukraine.

"This is not the time to maintain the status quo, this is the time to try and turn things around," he told the paper.

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-arm...-1718302?amp=1

[bsnub]

Massive levels of Russian hypocrisy explained here...

[bsnub]

There there, blame the propaganda machine that treated you simple people like idiots.

My god! Talk about a massive hypocrite. You swallowed Kremlin propaganda for months and did your work as a useful idiot, bleating on and on for months that western media and western intelligence were lying and that Russia would never invade. Well, it turned out to be the exact opposite. Your "sources" were in fact full of shit, and the western intelligence was spot on.

You were exposed as a fool and proven wrong. Furthermore, you are a complete tool and an utter imbecile, full stop. So that post just rams home that you are a clueless-propagandized hypocrite.

[Iceman123]

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FFS Snubby how many times are you going to keep harping on about Sabang’s prediction regards invasion.
I think we all got your point about 5000 posts ago.

Now when are you going to accept the reality that Ukraine are not winning.

As much as I would like to see Ukraine holding their own, the facts are that they are getting whipped.

[bsnub]

Now when are you going to accept the reality that Ukraine are not winning.

Were they not winning when they smashed the Russians outside of Kyiv? Were they not winning when they pushed the Russians out of Karkiv to the Russian border?

As much as I would like to see Ukraine holding their own, the facts are that they are getting whipped.

Exactly where the fuck are they getting "whipped"? They have held onto Severodonetsk for months now, repelling the Russians and causing them massive losses in men and equipment. The lines have hardly moved, even though the Russians have thrown their entire decrepit army at that one small city they still have not been able to take it fully. The Ukrainians have also been closing the gap outside of Kherson and are close to entering the outskirts of that city. Boris Johnson and the British intelligence services disagree with your comments. So maybe you can provide a link to back up your comments? If not, then they are not worth shit.

In regard to my response to Sab's idiotic comments made above, they are spot the fuck on. If you do not like it, then do not fucking bother reading the thread.

[bsnub]

Oh, my. The first video of the HIMARS MLRS being used in combat in Ukraine. I have a feeling some command posts are going to suddenly realize that they are no longer outside of Ukrainian artillery range.

[bsnub]

Excellent vid showing some Brits that are doing relief work in Eastern Ukraine. They get right up to the front in Donbass less than one KM in fact. Well worth the watch...

[Iceman123]

Exactly where the fuck are they getting "whipped"? They have held onto Severodonetsk for months now, repelling the Russians and causing them massive losses in men and equipment.

Ukrainian forces have retreated from Severodonetsk, it’s all over there - the Ruskies are now moving onto Lysychansk.

Keep up Google will give you the news if you need a link.

[bsnub]

Ukrainian forces have retreated from Severodonetsk, it’s all over there - the Ruskies are now moving onto Lysychansk.

That broke one hour ago. I am not surprised because it was long overdue. The Ukrainians gave the Russians one hell of a beating before they withdrew and being that they were out manned 10 to 1 it was a heroic effort.

it’s all over there - the Ruskies are now moving onto Lysychansk.

That will be another endeavor entirely, as Lysychansk is all high ground and the Russians will be forced to cross the Siverskyi Donets River, which is not something that they have proven capable of doing. The last time they tried to cross that river, they lost an entire battalion of men. Once they make it across, they will have to fight uphill.

[sabang]

[misskit]

Dramatic moment Russian missile fails during launch and ‘blows up Putin’s troops’


Dramatic video has captured the moment a Russian surface-to-air missile system fires on itself in a bizarre malfunction.


In the footage, the missile can be seen shooting into the sky - before turning mid-air and slamming back into where it came from in an enormous explosion.


The short clip was reportedly shot in the Ukrainian city of Alchevsk in the Luhansk region, which is under the occupation of pro-Russian separatist forces and is on the front line of the war in Ukraine.


It was filmed in the early hours of Friday morning when Russian troops reportedly launched a missile to intercept an oncoming Ukrainian plane.


However, seconds later, the missile was returned to sender after the tracking system went haywire.


The video shows a huge explosion as well as bright flashes shooting down from the crash site.


Local reports claim a fire erupted at the site not far from residential buildings.


Some have claimed that Russia‘s own anti-air defence systems may have interfered.


The clip was originally shared on the messaging app Telegram by the channel Face of War, which has posted similar footage since the start of the conflict.

It was also shared by Rob Lee, Senior Fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, who tweeted: “This is reportedly footage of a failed Russian air defence system missile launch from Alchevsk, Luhansk Oblast.”


The exact type of SAM system seen in the footage hasn‘t been confirmed, however, a Russian S-400 missile system costs around $300 million each.


There is no news yet on any casualties suffered in the blast.


It is the latest example of Putin’s army’s equipment horrifically malfunctioning.


Earlier today, a Russian military plane crashed killing four en route to the war in Ukraine.


The Ilyushin-76 military cargo transporter burst into flames after refuelling before plummeting to earth in the city of Ryazan 125 miles southeast of Moscow.


Three people were killed in the crash while a further passenger died at hospital.


The remaining four passengers are being treated at hospital, where their conditions are said to be “grave”.


Russian soldiers were filmed complaining about their shoddy equipment back in April, as Putin‘s forces face heavy losses.

In a viral video, a soldier crushed a Russian helmet with just his foot to show how poor quality they are.


While Putin‘s fighters have also shared pictures this week of their inferior first-aid kits alongside the well-stocked Ukrainian ones to show the contrast.


And some of Russia‘s soldiers say they are being forced to use their fallen comrades’ protective equipment due to shortages.


In a short video, a Russian recruit complains his new helmet contains the burned flesh of its previous owner stuck to the inside.


While back in April, it was revealed Putin‘s troops were fixing planes and drones with tin pot equipment, including off-the-shelf cameras, gamepads, and sat navs.


Since the start of the war, Russia is reported to have lost around 34,000 troops.


So far, the latest war is said to be one of the deadliest in the past 200 years based on the rate of soldier deaths, reports The Washington Post.





VIDEO Ukraine war: Dramatic moment Russian missile fails during launch and boomerangs back before ‘blowing up Putin’s troops’ | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

[Backspin]

[bsnub]

Dramatic moment Russian missile fails during launch and ‘blows up Putin’s troops’

Haahahahaha! You have to go to the link to see the video.

[sabang]

Brothers in Arms- another kind Ukrainian donation of Nato weapons to the Russian cause-

[bsnub]

Not much...

The loss of the southeastern town of Severodonetsk is far more significant and symbolic to Russia than to Ukraine, military analysts have told Al Jazeera. On Friday, Ukrainian forces were abandoning the town in the Luhansk region, after weeks of fierce fighting.

“Keeping positions smashed to pieces over many months just for the sake of staying there doesn’t make sense,” regional governor Serhiy Haidai said in televised remarks.

Heavy Russian bombardment has destroyed almost every defence position of the Ukrainian forces in the area, but the fall of the nearly-destroyed town is insignificant, a top military expert said.

“It’s a minor loss, there’s still Lysychansk [the neighboring town controlled by Ukraine], and Severodonetsk has largely served its purpose,” Ihor Romanenko, former deputy chief of Ukraine’s general staff of armed forces, told Al Jazeera.

The Kremlin is trumpeting the takeover of Severodonetsk because it remained one of the few Ukrainian-controlled towns in Luhansk, one of Ukraine’s smallest and poorest regions that was partially taken over by pro-Russian separatists in 2014.

“There is a geopolitical component for Russians, it’s a district centre in the unoccupied part of Luhansk. But we will live through it, we are more interested in the military aspect,” Romanenko said.

The claimed Russian victory in Luhansk was so important to Moscow that it ordered the redeployment of its troops from the occupied southern region of Kherson, and the partially-occupied Zaporizhzhia, where Ukrainian forces are regaining ground, Romanenko said.

Western and Russian analysts agree with him.

“The loss of Severodonetsk is a loss for Ukraine in the sense that any terrain captured by Russian forces is a loss – but the battle of Severodonetsk will not be a decisive Russian victory,” concluded the Institute for War, a US think tank that has been closely following the war since it began exactly four months ago, on February 24.

Two months of intense fighting also significantly decimated Russian forces in Severodonetsk, where the pre-war population was about 100,000.

“Ukraine has ground down a significant mass of Russian troops and retreated,” Pavel Luzin, a Russian-based expert with the Jamestown Foundation, a think tank in Washington, DC, told Al Jazeera.

To some observers, Moscow’s long-term perspectives in the war do not look promising because of heavy losses and demoralised manpower amid Western sanctions that prevent the production of high-precision weaponry.

“Time works against Russia [because] its military potential is largely irreplaceable,” he said.

Severodonetsk stands on the Siversky Donets river that the Russians have unsuccessfully tried to cross several times – with heavy losses of manpower and armoured vehicles.
One reason Severodonetsk fell was because of Russia’s superiority in artillery.

Moscow has used multiple rocket launchers, bombers and even outdated Tochka U cruise missiles to pound Ukrainian positions and residential areas.

“Aviation is working. Tochka Us are working. A whole set of artillery. They are advancing in all directions,” Roman Vlasenko of the Severodonetsk administration said in televised remarks on Friday.

However, the takeover of the entire Luhansk region – which seems imminent after the potential fall of Lysychansk – will not bring about the victory Russian President Vladimir Putin wants.

Months ago, Russian troops failed to seize Kyiv and northern Ukraine, losing thousands of troops and hundreds of tanks and armoured vehicles – as they were accused of committing war crimes against civilians.

They retreated in early April, and Putin said Russia would focus on capturing the Donbas region that includes Luhansk and Donetsk.

But at least two-fifths of Donetsk, a far larger and more populated province, is still controlled by Ukrainian forces.

They have built extensive defence installations there since rebels seized a third of Donetsk in 2014 – and taking them over will prove far more difficult than seizing Luhansk.

Meanwhile, the immediate economic consequences of losing all of Luhansk are minimal.

The industrial core of Luhansk with dozens of plants, power stations and coal mines has been under the rebels’ control since 2014, while the Kyiv-controlled part was mostly farmland.

The only industrial pockets there were the chemical and cellulose plants in Severodonetsk, Lysychansk and the town of Rubizhne that had been taken over in early May.

The plants almost stopped working because of the hostilities and shifting front line, Kyiv-based analyst Aleksey Kushch said.

“The economic effect is minuscule,” he told Al Jazeera.

The loss of Mariupol, that served as an administrative capital of the Ukrainian-controlled part of Donetsk, was far more consequential because the city was a crucial seaport and had two giant steel plants that accounted for a sizeable part of Ukraine’s steel output, he said.

Meanwhile, the fighting over Severodonetsk showed that Ukrainian forces could soon achieve parity with Russian troops as Moscow is losing reserves, morale and reliable weaponry.
“They are exhausted,” military expert Romanenko said of the Russians.

As Ukraine reorganised its troops following the defeat, the Kremlin maintained its widely criticised narrative that today’s Europe is similar to Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler.

“When World War II was about to begin, Hitler gathered a significant part, if not most of the European nations, for a war against the USSR,” Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov said on Friday. “These days, the European Union together with NATO are gathering a modern-day coalition to wage a war on the Russian Federation.”

What does Russia’s capture of Severodonetsk mean for Ukraine? | Russia-Ukraine war News | Al Jazeera

[sabang]

Yeh, another Ukrainian victory.

[pickel]

Brothers in Arms- another kind Ukrainian donation of Nato weapons to the Russian cause-

Doesn't even compare to the amount of armored vehicles Russia has donated to Ukraine.

[sabang]

Oh, but it does. The Ukrainian armed forces have a severe problem with collapsing morale.

[panama hat]

another kind Ukrainian donation of Nato weapons to the Russian cause-

Doesn't even compare to the amount of armored vehicles Russia has donated to Ukraine.

Oh, but it does. The Ukrainian armed forces have a severe problem with collapsing morale.

Are you having serious comprehension problems? YOU started the narrative about captured hardware. Pickel continued with hardware and then you flounder into something else.

You're looking more and more desperate by the day

[sabang]

Really? So Russia is losing? Haha- I've been warning you for weeks. Don't trust your lying MSM- trust sab!

[HermantheGerman]

Really? So Russia is losing? Haha- I've been warning you for weeks. Don't trust your lying MSM- trust sab!

Russia and Ukraine are loosing! That's what WE have been saying. Only an imbecile like you can't comprehend the situation.