Ukraine war mega thread

[bsnub]

The war is now a proxy war for the West, trying to defeat Russia, or significantly weaken it, and the Ukrainian military is now just cannon fodder for the West.

Good god, are you a candidate to join the other Three Stooges? That entire comment was utterly pathetic. The Ukrainians were attacked by Russia and continue to be attacked by Russia. So you would rather that the West not send military assistance to Ukraine, so they can simply be slaughtered?

I have to say that I usually consider you a well-rounded poster, but that comment is the stupidest thing I have ever seen you post on TD.

[Neverna]

"for the west"? They are being armed by the west to battle Putin's murderers - would you prefer the Russian armed forces to simply glide over Ukraine and decimate everything/one in its way without resistance?

Bizarre.

My preference is to see an end to the war, to see an end to the deaths and destruction. There's nothing bizarre about that.

What happened to the Russia/Ukraine negotiations?

[Neverna]

That entire comment was utterly pathetic. The Ukrainians were attacked by Russia and continue to be attacked by Russia. So you would rather that the West not send military assistance to Ukraine, so they can simply be slaughtered?

Don't you think the West, particularly the US and the UK, want to see the defeat of Russia? And haven't American and British officials stated that they want to see Russia weakened (militarily and economically) for the long term? And don't you think that supplying more and more arms, and increasingly heavier arms, to Ukraine to fight Russia is part of that aim? And don't you agree that the longer the war continues the more Ukrainian will experience death and destruction?

I am not against helping Ukraine with arms and money and I am not against Ukraine defending itself, but what's happening now is just going to make this a very drawn out affair with lots more deaths and destruction in Ukraine.

I have to say that I usually consider you a well-rounded poster,

Thanks.

but that comment is the stupidest thing I have ever seen you post on TD.

Skiddy hacked me computer, honest guv.

[NamPikToot]

It would be much better to find an exit route for Putin that allows him to withdraw to the pre-war boundaries.

I agree ref trying to find a way to halt this, no one gains. There not a chance in hell Putin will sacrifice the territory gained or that he aspires to at a minimum.

[bsnub]

Don't you think the West, particularly the US and the UK, want to see the defeat of Russia?

Don't you? All reasonable people should want to see the defeat of Russia. They attacked a peaceful Democratic nation without provocation. Such behavior in the twenty-first century is inexcusable and must be confronted head on.

And haven't American and British officials stated that they want to see Russia weakened (militarily and economically) for the long term? And don't you think that supplying more and more arms, and increasingly heavier arms, to Ukraine to fight Russia is part of that aim?

A weakened Russia is just a byproduct of this war, but it was never a strategy from the outset. Supplying the Ukrainians is giving them the ability to save their nation from total destruction, which is what Russia was attempting to do. Can you imagine how much worse things could be if Russia made it into Kyiv? Thankfully, the Ukrainians have proven to be the superior soldiers on the ground compared to the Russians. They need every bit of equipment they can get.

And don't you agree that the longer the war continues the more Ukrainian will experience death and destruction?

The death and destruction would be worse if Russia had been able to stomp across the entire nation of Ukraine, flattening all the cities and towns as it went. Arming Ukraine is keeping it from being worse.

[David48atTD]

Don't you think the West, particularly the US and the UK,

Defeated? NO

Weakened/Repelled? SURE

IMHO

[bsnub]

Defeated? NO

You had better bet your bottom dollar that if the Ukrainians can defeat the Russians in Ukraine that the west would absolutely like to see that. Russia has already suffered a massive defeat in the failed attempt to take Kyiv, and I hope that they are defeated again in the south and east.

[harrybarracuda]

My preference is to see an end to the war, to see an end to the deaths and destruction. There's nothing bizarre about that.

So is mine, and also to ensure that Putin is not rewarded for his war crimes by being allowed to keep territory it has stolen.

Mind you my other preference is for him to die an extremely painful death by cancer.

[harrybarracuda]

Don't you think the West, particularly the US and the UK, want to see the defeat of Russia?

In this conflict, of course they fucking do. They want to make sure Putin doesn't get ideas about invading other countries.

Maybe snubby is right about you.

[NamPikToot]

I think Nev maybe referring to a situation where "defeat" in Ukraine means Putin will get backed into a situation where he'll use retaliatory measures like nuclear. I may be wrong.

[sabang]

• Alastair Crooke
• Source: Al Mayadeen Net
• 24 Apr 15:41

It is indeed war. NATO is at war with Russia. German legalists may say not, but when the West arms Ukraine; when NATO Special Forces are in Kiev (i.e. the British SAS), and are training their militia protégés to use their weapons to kill Russians, is it really relevant (or known) from whose shoulder the (UK made) Starstreak missile, which downs a Russian helicopter, is fired?

In any case, this ‘war’ (proxy war, if you prefer) was effectively launched in 2014, and ratcheted up substantially in 2017, when NATO switched from relying on Ukrainian national forces (that had proved somewhat prone to defects, with their arms, to Russian speaking militia), to the use of internationalists and mercenaries, with the aggressive intent of weakening and miring Russia in a quagmire. [/COLOR][COLOR=var(--read-col)]‘War is war’, and this war is set to escalate.

Nobody knows exactly the number of these extreme Right militias mounted by the West, but Reuters has put the figure at one hundred thousand, former senior NATO adviser Jacques Baud notes and concurs. These paramilitaries, however, take no role in normal field warfare, but rather focus on maintaining ‘order’ [i.e. strict compliance] within cities. And that’s exactly what you have had in Mariupol and elsewhere. These Azov-type militia are not equipped for field operations. They are equipped for urban warfare. Just to be clear, this mode of Idlib-style ruthless urban warfare is not about defeating the Russian army, it is about pulling them into cloying, all-enveloping mud.

Up until February this year, this set-up essentially was intended to unfold as a campaign of attrition; an incipient quagmire. But then suddenly, on 16 February, there was a massive increase in shelling from the Ukrainian side (about 30 times more than on past occasions per OSCE) and coinciding with Biden’s predictions of an imminent Russian invasion. This for the Russians, and for President Putin in particular, was the sign of the start of the expected war of attrition. And so on 24 February, Russia's Special Military Operation was launched.

Why attrition? Why not ordinary war? Well, because NATO did not want to put its’ boots on the ground. It wanted low-intensity insurgency.

Why? Because it had been decided that the collapse of Russia (the ultimate aim) was primordially to be achieved by all-out financial war (thus avoiding US casualties): Thousands of sanctions; the seizing of Russian foreign exchange reserves; and a concerted effort to sink the rouble. In March, Biden was already boasting in his State of the Union speech that the rouble had collapsed by 30% and the Russian stock market by 40%. The fighting in Ukraine, therefore, was treated as giving the pain from financial war more time to bite in Russia.

But now, we see the calculus is changing. Indeed it must change, because the dynamics and timelines are inverting:

First, Russia’s economy did not collapse. The rouble is back to where it was before 24 February. Then subsequently, the West unfurled its unprecedented anti-Putin PSYOPS amid almost daily claims of atrocities and war-crimes attributed to Russia.

The PSYOPS war has completely infused the European public with a passionate animosity and hatred for Putin and Russian persons. There is no doubt about ‘its success’ in this respect.

But there seems to have been a less noticed Anglo-American sub-plot too: This sub-plot is the weakening of Germany, and the blocking of Germany from allying with Russia -- for at least a generation. This latter aspiration is well-established and has existed since before WW1.

As Ambrose Evans-Pritchard wrote in the Telegraph this week, "Olaf Scholz must choose between an energy embargo on Russia, or a moral embargo on Germany'': “…[W]estern Europe’s refusal to cut off funding for Vladimir Putin’s war machine is untenable. The moral and political damage to the EU itself is becoming prohibitive”.

But note the corollary: To push for this EU energy embargo, Britain is turbo-firing the stakes by demanding a western “response that rises to the existential threat now facing Europe’s liberal order”.

So, here is the revised grand agenda: Russia is surviving the financial war because the EU still buys gas and energy from Russia. ‘The EU – and Germany more specifically - is financing Putin’s ‘grotesque unprovoked war’, the meme goes. ‘Not a Euro must reach Putin!’.

Is this not simply an evolution of the West’s February aims? No. For, a ‘boycott-Russian-energy’ strategy is not about giving the ‘Treasury War’ time to bear fruit, but rather, it means ‘curtains for Europe’ of course, and for Germany very obviously. And soon.

There is no way for Europe to replace Russian energy from other sources in the coming years. But Europe's leadership, consumed by a frenzy of outrage at a flood of atrocity images from Ukraine - and a sense that the ‘liberal world’ at any cost must prevent a loss in the Ukraine conflict - seems ready to go this ‘whole hog’. The energy ban may happen quite soon.

But, here is the rub: The US can see that its attrition ‘war’ is failing. Ukraine’s army is surrounded, and will soon come to an end (one way or another).

Thus, it is no longer a question of whether the war of attrition can give sanctions more time to bite with the Russian populace. The Treasury War is failing, too (for complex reasons to do with the Bank of Russia linking the rouble to gold; and the rouble to energy).

Here again, it is the economic/financial consequences that are the game-changer. Inflation is soaring in Europe, and will go higher. And the public sentiment is shifting: “Public support for Russian sanctions is falling as the cost of living crisis starts to bite, a poll has found. The proportion of the public that would accept higher fuel prices as a consequence of tough Western sanctions on Russia fell 14 points in a month, from 50 percent in March to 36 percent this week”.

The timelines no longer gel: Euro-sanctions (theoretically) need more time to bite. However, the West does not have time. It is inflation that is biting 'now’ (and turning European sentiment against the Ukraine project). The last thing wanted by the European establishment is a ‘European Spring’ (as a counterpoint to the Arab Spring).

The West faces a tough choice: Public support for the Ukraine project may be fading, just as the realities on the ground become apparent that the 'European Liberal Order' is not going to be saved from disintegration - through Ukraine.

Yet, public opinion has been hyped to believe that without a European Ukraine victory; without the utter defeat and humiliation of Russia, the liberal world cannot survive. Thus, we hear slipping from the lips of EU High Representative Borrell that Ukraine can only be resolved by military means. What he may be saying is that the West must go maximalist, before inflation ruins the plan. Escalation, or else existential failure.

https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/war-it-is-and-escalation-is-coming

[YourDaddy]

the only mega about this thread is the morons posting in it

Can Luigi sum up the top posters on this thread so far? For reference like....

[NamPikToot]

Good Lord there's some drivel in that very biased opinion piece.

[bsnub]

Good Lord there's some drivel in that very biased opinion piece.

It is Sabwang who is a fucking Russian shit (shill) he is posting from a very small list of other Russian shills. It is not even worth reading the garbage he posts.

Maybe snubby is right about you.

I hope not. Nev is a good one, well reasoned and rational. I do think that Nev will come around via rational discourse. Others like the Three Stooges are lost to the propaganda swamps.

Can Luigi sum up the top posters on this thread so far?

Why do you not take a stab at it? Maybe you should grow a spine and stop grovelling for greens.

[Troy]

They attacked a peaceful Democratic nation without provocation.

That's not entirely correct though is it. The Ukrainians cut off the water supply to Crimea and caused a massive crop failure. More importantly, they stopped the official and business use of the Russian language. I don't think you need a great deal of imagination to see those reasons being used in other situations to support an attack in other parts of the world.

In my opinion, Russia needs to save face and need to be given the opportunity of doing so. It may seem unfair but life is unfair and the alternatives are not good for anyone.

[Troy]

Good Lord there's some drivel in that very biased opinion piece.

It looked like a rework of one of Jacques Baud's global conspiracy articles. I stopped reading as soon as i spotted the name.

[sabang]

"It doesn’t make sense that Russia and Ukraine aren’t sitting down and working out some kind of an agreement. If they don’t do it soon, there will be nothing left but death, destruction, and carnage. This is a war that never should have happened, but it did. The solution can never be as good as it would have been before the shooting started, but there is a solution, and it should be figured out now—not later—when everyone will be DEAD!”


Donald Trump


Interesting read actually- The Dynamics of Escalation: ‘Standing With Ukraine’ – #truthPeep


^Alastair Crooke? Hardly a lightweight. I try to read all of his stuff- he isn't that prolific.

Alastair Crooke - Wikipedia

[bsnub]

The Ukrainians cut off the water supply to Crimea and caused a massive crop failure.

It is Ukrainian land. So good on them.

More importantly, they stopped the official and business use of the Russian language.

Also, good because Russians have no place in Ukrainian lands, they are there artificial to begin with. Russia attempts to commit ethnic genocide by forcing Russians to squat on foreign lands to lay false claims. They have done it in Ukraine, Georgia and Moldavia. This has to be stopped.

Donald Trump

An idiot quoting an idiot. Fitting.

[NamPikToot]

^^^^ Putin needs to save face and be given a way out. Zelesny has said that one of his red lines is the return to Ukraine of all tertitory occupied by Russia since the start of the conflict this year. Someone is going to have to compromise.

[bsnub]

Putin needs to save face and be given a way out.

Fuck Putin and Russia, it is they who are against the wall.

Zelesny has said that one of his red lines is the return to Ukraine of all tertitory occupied by Russia since the start of the conflict this year. Someone is going to have to compromise.

Ukraine already has the first decisive victory of this war, defeating the northern attack on Kyiv, and that will go down in the history books. They have the upper hand at this point.

[sabang]

Doesn't snubs sound desperate.

[misskit]

Moscow museum chronicles NATO ‘cruelty’ amid Ukraine campaign

Paintings of wounded children and grieving women line the walls, while loudspeakers spit out the sound of approaching warplanes. Welcome to a Moscow exhibition depicting NATO’s “crimes” amid Russia’s military campaign in Ukraine.


“NATO. A chronicle of cruelty” opened at the Museum of Contemporary Russian History in Moscow in early April, over a month after President Vladimir Putin sent troops to the pro-Western country.


According to the museum, the display is dedicated to the history of NATO including the United States’ atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, despite the Western military alliance being founded only in 1949.


It also lists the bloc’s bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, US-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as cooperation between Ukraine and NATO “that has led” to the current conflict.


“Every time it’s difficult to talk about the crimes committed by NATO troops,” guide Yaroslav Polestrov, 46, said.


The Kremlin considers the US-led military bloc an existential threat to Russia and Putin blames Washington for using Ukraine as an instrument to draw Moscow into a conflict.


Since the start of Moscow’s campaign in Ukraine, independent media outlets have been shut down or suspended operations while television channels have ratcheted up the production of anti-Ukraine and anti-West propaganda.


Just days before Moscow’s annual military parade to mark the Soviet victory in World War II on May 9, the exhibition is well attended.


At the entrance, a group of teenage cadets in uniform pose for a photo before heading inside, which, unusually in the Russian capital, is free of charge.


Lining the walls are photos of anti-NATO demonstrations in Europe and numerous photos of children in conflict zones, some visibly injured.


For the museum’s senior researcher Fyodor Kokin, NATO has been playing a crucial role in the Ukraine conflict.


“We see that in fact the countries of the alliance are very actively involved in this conflict,” Kokin, 28, said.


“They are supplying arms, equipment, and ammunition to Ukraine.”

Part of the display is an “anti-tank missile launcher produced in the United Kingdom and used by the Ukrainian armed forces”, Kokin said.


The exhibit was put together in “less than a few weeks” and has welcomed 14,000 visitors so far, he added.


One of those visitors, Alexandra, who declined to release her last name, said the display was a shoddy job.


“This was done in a hurry,” said Alexandra, who teaches library science and brought her students to see the exhibition but now “regrets wasting time”.


“Why are we talking about ‘cruelty’? Why not talk about the reasons for the creation of the bloc, how it has evolved over time?” said the woman, sporting a black and orange ribbon pinned to her chest, a symbol of WWII victory celebrations in Russia.


Pointing to a section dedicated to the Vietnam War, Alexandra said, “It is the United States, not NATO,” which is to blame.


‘Soviet-style propaganda’


Guide Polestrov shows Alexandra’s students a jumble of Ukrainian blue and yellow flags displayed next to a Nazi SS helmet and a US flag, with maps illustrating just how far into Russia NATO missiles can reach.


On the 1999 NATO bombings of Yugoslavia, he said: “Russia and China did not agree with… the decision made by (Bill) Clinton, President of the United States and criminals like him”.


Anyone disagreeing with the organizers’ point of view is free to express their thoughts in the visitors’ book, Polestrov said.


Some praised the display.


“It is necessary that children, adolescents, and even many adults see for themselves how rotten the Western world is,” two women, who signed their full names, wrote in a message seen by AFP.


Maria Butina, a lower house lawmaker who served 15 months in a US prison for illegally acting as a foreign agent for Russia, thanked the organizers for telling the “truth”.


Other visitors blasted Moscow’s narrative.


“This exhibition is Soviet-style propaganda crap,” read one entry.


“There is no black and white in politics, there are only shades of grey,” said another.


“Don’t let the propaganda fool you. Peace to Ukraine and the whole world, freedom and wisdom to Russia!”


Moscow museum chronicles NATO 'cruelty' amid Ukraine campaign | Thai PBS World : The latest Thai news in English, News Headlines, World News and News Broadcasts in both Thai and English. We bring Thailand to the world

[sabang]

he is posting from a very small list of other Russian shills

Falsehood 4: China amplifies Russian propaganda by claiming that "the US and NATO caused the Ukraine crisis".

Reality Check:People of insight in the international community have publicly warned many times about the possible repercussions of the US continuous push for NATO's eastward expansion.

◆In 1990, then US Secretary of State James Baker, during his meeting with Mikhail Gorbachev, promised clearly that NATO will move "not one inch eastward". However, under the domination of the United States, NATO has expanded eastward five times since 1999, increased its membership from 16 to 30, and advanced more than 1,000 kilometers eastward right up to Russian borders, creating a C-shaped encirclement of the Black Sea.

◆A document disclosed by the National Archives of Great Britain showed that the US representative had promised in negotiations back then that NATO should not expand to the east either formally or unofficially.
https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2022-02-18-spiegel--the-west-in-a-1991-document-declared-the-unacceptability-of-nato-expansion-to-the-east.r1bJ_VK6kq.html

◆Russia has for years proposed dialogue with the United States on a European Security Initiative, only to be ignored by the US side. In 2021, Russia offered multiple times to negotiate and sign a peace agreement with NATO, but was rejected by the United States and NATO.

◆The United States and NATO, while fully aware of Russia's security concerns, strengthened military assistance to Ukraine and helped it train military personnel.
According to US media reports, former US officials said that the United States has provided a large amount of advanced military training for Ukrainian elite troops and special operation forces. Since 2015, the CIA has conducted a series of intensive military training in Ukraine involving guns, land navigation and camouflage techniques. The program, which began under President Obama, was expanded under President Trump and further enlarged under the Biden administration.
According to Canadian media reports, the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) has spent more than 890 million US dollars on training Ukrainian soldiers since 2014, including more than 30,000 Ukrainian troops trained in Zolochiv between February 2019 and February 2022.
https://world.huanqiu.com/article/47Zcn5zwlLa

◆On April 12, 2022, UK Armed Forces Minister James Heappey confirmed that the British military would train Ukrainian soldiers in the UK.
https://3w.huanqiu.com/a/9eda3d/47ajbHTJ5hS?agt=8
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ukrainian-soldiers-arrive-uk-days-26692082

◆The CIA has long been training members of the "Azov Battalion" in a secret place in southern United States. Since 2014, the United States and Ukraine have consistently voted against draft resolutions on combating "neo-Nazism" at the United Nations. In 2015, the House of Representatives of the US Congress lifted the ban on funding the "Azov Battalion" and provided a large amount of military assistance to Ukraine. A report released in 2018 by the Atlantic Council, a US think tank,said that the "Azov Battalion" was among the recipients of weapons and equipment provided by the United States to Ukraine.

◆Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said in an op-ed published in The Washington Post in 2014 that "far too often the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and thrive, it must not be either side's outpost against the other - it should function as a bridge between them."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html

◆George Kennan, late American diplomat and observer of the Soviet Union, wrote in The New York Times in 1997 that "expanding NATO would be the most fateful error of American policy in the entire post-Cold War era".
https://world.huanqiu.com/article/46wKCk9TxKL

◆Former US Senator Bill Bradley said that "the fundamental blunder that the United States made in the late 80s, early 90s was the expansion of NATO".
https://ms-my.facebook.com/Progressives4DenRep/videos/bill-bradley-says-nato-expansion-unnecessary-in-2008/4799246893521243/

◆John Mearsheimer, an American political scientist, pointed out that "the West bears primary responsibility of what is happening today. It was largely a result of a decision in April 2006 to make Ukraine and to make Georgia part of NATO". He said, "Here I'm talking about the West, we took a stick and we poke the bear in the eye ... and that bear is not going to smile and laugh at what you are doing. That bear is probably going to fight back, and that's exactly what's happening here."
https://m.guancha.cn/MiErSiHaiMo/2022_03_12_629948.shtml

◆In an New York Times article on February 21, 2022, Thomas Friedman pointed out that the United States and NATO were not innocent bystanders in the Ukraine crisis, and that the decision of the United States on NATO expansion has added a "huge log" to the conflict in Ukraine.
https://www.chinanews.com.cn/gj/2022/03-06/9693915.shtml

◆In a speech on February 28, 2022, US Senator Bernie Sanders cited the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis as an example, saying that the Kennedy administration considered the Soviet Union's deployment of missiles in Cuba 90 miles from the US coast to be an unacceptable threat to US national security. He questioned if anyone really believe that the United States would not have something to say if Mexico, Cuba, or any country in Central or Latin America want to form a military alliance with a US adversary, and that members of Congress would stand up and say, 'well, you know, Mexico is an independent country, and they have the right to do anything they want'"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydL3cHVyRNc

◆Former US Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard said in an interview if Joe Biden simply promised not to include Ukraine into NATO, the war would have been prevented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5oPNjMZw4

◆After the World War II, "proxy wars" became a major option for the United States to intervene in the affairs of other countries. The Ukraine crisis manipulated by the United States and NATO is a "proxy war." Former UK parliamentarian George Galloway said the United States is prepared to let Ukraine fight to the last drop of its blood.
https://chinese.cri.cn/2022/04/14/ARTIe6oeOKMflgc2uBcYy97H220414.shtml?spm=C09605.PY GuJ2ZGcYXi.S86169.5

◆Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said in an interview with the CNN that there are countries in NATO that want the Ukraine crisis to continue, they see the continuation of the crisis as weakening Russia, and they don't care much about the situation in Ukraine.
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/04/21/Turkey-s-FM-says-some-NATO-allies-want-longer-Ukraine-war-to-weaken-Russia

◆Francis Boyle, a professor of international law at the University of Illinois in the United States, said that the fundamental problem of the Russia-Ukraine conflict lies in the constant eastward expansion of the US-led NATO. Biden should publicly announce that Ukraine will not join NATO and NATO will not expand, which may lead to a breakthrough in the current situation.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202203/28/WS62414e32a310fd2b29e53b05.html

◆On April 11, 2022, Martin Jacques, a well-known UK scholar, said that the current situation in Ukraine is a product of the United States' Cold War mentality and continued promotion of NATO expansion. It has pushed not only Ukraine but the whole of Europe to the frontline of US-Russia confrontation.
https://tv.cctv.com/2022/04/12/VIDEbVFLVHLQn1SyN1m4RWxr220412.shtml

◆Kishore Mahbubani, founding dean of the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy at the National University of Singapore, pointed out that the tragedy of the Ukraine conflict is that the armed conflict could and should have been prevented, and that the decisions on NATO expansion were driven by the short-term interests of US domestic politics.
https://china-environment-news.com/2022/03/23/ukraine-war-where-are-the-peacemakers/

◆Spanish political analyst Manolo Monereo said that the Ukraine conflict has been dominated by the US all along, while its European allies only play their role as a part of NATO.
https://www.elviejotopo.com/topoexpress/ucrania-y-la-gran-transicion-geopolitica-y-civilizatoria/

◆Yunus Sonnell, a Turkish expert on international issues, said that on the surface, the crisis broke out between Russia and Ukraine, but its root lies in the attempt by the US to maintain the unipolar international order as the global hegemonic power, and to squeeze Russia's living space through NATO's eastward expansion.
https://content-static.cctvnews.cctv.com/snow-book/index.html?item_id=8024464082319901938
https://www.archyde.com/turkish-expert-on-international-affairs-ukrainian-crisis-is-rooted-in-u-s-hegemony-russian-ukrainian-foreign-ministers-meeting-is-a-positive-attempt-to-resolve-the-crisis-through-diplomatic-means_/

◆South African President Cyril Ramaphosa said that the war could have been avoided if NATO had heeded the warnings from amongst its own leaders and officials over the years that its eastward expansion would lead to greater, not less, instability in the region.
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/safricas-ramaphosa-blames-nato-russias-war-ukraine-2022-03-17
https://7news.com.au/news/conflict/nato-could-have-avoided-war-south-africa-c-6107191

◆Doraisamy Raja, General Secretary of the Communist Party of India, pointed out in an Indian Express article that the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine is rooted in the expansionary logic of the military alliance-NATO.
https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/nato-is-a-danger-to-world-peace-it-must-go-russia-ukraine-world-war-soviet-union-7854544/

◆In 1992 when then Russian President Boris Yeltsin paid his first visits to China and the United States following the Soviet disintegration, the countries agreed not to regard each other as adversaries, which basically put Russia's bilateral relations with China and the United States on the same level. Over the past thirty years, the China-Russia relationship has made great progress, but it is still based on non-alliance, non-confrontation, and non-targeting of third countries. At the same time, US-Russia relations are sliding into a new Cold War.

FULL- http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0430/c90000-10091353.html

[harrybarracuda]

Donald Trump

Fucking joke.

Interesting read actually

Only to snivelling sycophants like yourself.

Alastair Crooke

Stooge.

Congrats, you managed to pack a load of shit in just one post.

[harrybarracuda]

Doesn't snubs sound desperate.

He sounds like he's angry about Russian atrocities, unlike you who sounds like you are smugly enjoying them.